Question about MSI/VIA/ATi compatibility

As you can see, I may be getting an X850XT soon for my 6800gt. Ihave had one ATi card in the past which was my 9800 pro a whileback, and it was a good card, but I did have some issues back then,whether it was problems with VIA or not. Anyways, I have read somecomplaints by other people who say that ATi cards and VIA chipsetsdon't and especially MSI boards get along sometimes and cause problems in games. I was hopingthat this board can shine some light into this, thanks inadvance! Do MSI boards seem to suffer more with ATi products rather than NV products?

I've owned both the 6800GT and the X800XT (both AGP) and used both with K8T Neo2 board. I had some mouse issues when using the 6800GT. It would disappear during gaming. This was nVidia driver related. Overall, I think they are both fine with MSI boards in either nVidia or VIA chipsets. The occassional driver issue is hard to avoid from either camp.
I have used numerous MSI boards, both VIA and nVidia, in the past with Radeon 9700Pro and 9800Pro and nVidia MX cards. No troubles that I can warn you about. Maybe some issues arise when overclocking? I usually don't overclock & when I do, it is mild. I think if you run pretty standard fare you will be fine no matter what you choose. Just my observations...

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It has nothing to do with being "persnickty". The answer is the most helpful answer somebody can give you.
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my previous msi boards had a feature where if u overclocked too much, and the system couldnt handle it, it would load the default settings in the bios. I really liked this feature and am wondering if it will be present in this board.
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sorry m8 after that post i double checked and i thought you were talking about neo1 - didnt notice the SLI bit . i think a couple of others got caught by that one too.
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I ask about msi 865 PE neo3-v mainboard
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and can I get the full performance of this cpu (dual core) on this mainboard without problems?
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I know this not something one should ask. But I would like to ask what is the difference between MSI NX7300GS and MSI NX7300GT? Second I would like to know something. My brother tells this problem is because my Graphic card is MSI and my motherboard is from Asrock. Now I don't know much about this. But sometimes my computer just switch off and switch on again and when I start Windows it tells me that it has been restored from a problem. Now my brother tells it is because of the Graphic card. Can a Graphic card do that to a computer? Or can be something else. My mother uses Northbrigde and southbrigde from VIA. And he said it is not something that one likes to have on ones motherboard. Can that do what I said? And can one change ones graphic card after some time? Like can I change my MSi NX7300GS to a MSI NX7300GT? Or should one take another card? Like 7600GT? I usually don't play much games since I am not very found of games. I hope someone can help me with an answer to these question.
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Quote from: krille70 on 30-June-06, 04:04:00
My brother tells this problem is because my Graphic card is MSI and my motherboard is from Asrock.
That statement from your brother shows he does not know anything about computers. Ignore it.
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First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
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Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
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dmaude: I installed Techtools and Diskwarrior, and now ran it periodically after my radical clean install where I brought all my files manually without using time machine nor migration assistant and installed all my apps from scratch.
I am a web artist thus I am not even using much of my 250GB, I have 200GB free and 3GB memory.
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Read more: http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/04/imac.freezing.redux/#ixzz1yQ8CLgsg
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Quote from: krille70 on 30-June-06, 04:04:00
My brother tells this problem is because my Graphic card is MSI and my motherboard is from Asrock.
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