Question about partner determination for customer master

Hi, experts,
I have already read the documentation about this topic at forum. Still I have the following question:
why should we assign the partner function to the account group? According to my understanding, the partner function has to be assigned to partner determination procedure and then through partner determination it is associated with the account group. If the partner can be assigned to account group directly, why do we still need determination procedure?
Best regards,
Fan

Hi
Let us consider an existing Partner Determination procedure in standard SAP.
The Partner Determination Procedure (e.g, ABCD) can contain multiple "Partner Functions". Suppose there are 100 numbers of Partner Functions in the Procedure.
We assign "Partner determination Procedure" to the "Account Group", so that , the assigned Procedure will be applicable for the Customer master data created under that Account group.
Suppose, Partner determination Procedure "ABCD" has been assigned to Account Group "XYZ".
Now, any Customer created under Account Group "XYZ", the Procedure "ABCD" will be applicable for them. Right?
We have already discussed , the Procedure "ABCD" contains 100 different "Partner Functions".
Out of these 100 Partner Functions, only those Partner Functions, which are permitted by the Account Group "XYZ" , they can only be entered in the Sales area data > Partner Function tab of the Customer master data.
Suppose, only 6 Partner functions (out of 100 no) are assigned to Account Group "XYZ".
So these 6 Partner Functions are permitted by the said Account Group "XYZ" and these 6 Partner Functions can only be entered in the Customer master data.
So, to summerise it, if you want to enter a Partner Function in the Customer master, then
- First, that Partner Function must be available in the Procedure which applicable, and
- Second, that Partner Function also must have been permitted (assigned) by the Account Group .
I hope, it is clarified.
Regards
Pradyumna

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How will i configure partner determination for customer master

how will i configure partner determination for customer master data.

hi
Check this
BUSINESS PARTNERS AND PARTNER DETERMINATION
In the partner determination procedure you can determine whether partner functions can or should occur in a partner object (Customer Master, Sales Document, Item Category etc.) For each object, in which partner function can be created, you can define partner procedures. This also means that
For Customer Master
For Sales Documents
For Sales Documents and Billing Documents: for items
We can define our partner determination procedure for each of these levels as shown below. In Blue are given the ones wherein the Partner Procedures are assigned to the Partner Objects
Customer Master Account Group
Sales Document Header Sales Document Type
Sales document Item Item Category in sales
Delivery Delivery Type
Billing Header Billing Type
Billing Item Billing Type
Sales Activity Sales Activity type
By assigning a procedure you determine for which account groups (for the customer master), which sales document types (for sales documents) and for which item categories this procedure would be valid.
In the partner determination procedure you can determine for each partner function
whether the partner function is an obligatory partner function
whether the partner function can be changed in the document
BUSINESS PARTNER FUNCTION
By assigning a business partner function to a partner you can determine which functions the partner fulfils in the business process. Partner Functions are classified using partner type. The partner type represents the roles played by the business partner within the business transaction.
Following partner functions exist in the standard process of Sales and Distribution
Partner Type Customer
Sold-to Party, Ship-to Party, Bill-to Party, Payer and Sold-to Party authorized to release against a contract. You can define the sold-to party authorized to release against a contract in the partner screen of a contract. This partner may only schedule orders with reference to this contract, even when he is not the sold-to party authorized against a contract.
Partner Type Contact Person
Contact persons are natural persons whom you must contact at the customers for business processing (e.g. purchasers) Contact person can be created directly in customer master record.
Partner Type Vendor
A forwarding agent is an example of a business partner on the credit side, who is included in a sales process. If you commission a particular forwarding agent for deliveries to a specific customer, you can define the forwarding agent in the customer master record as the partner.
The other possible partner functions on the credit side in the sale process are interpreters, auditors etc. The forwarding agent is an agent who performs transportation services. This includes organizing the shipment, delivery and receipt of the goods, arranging the carrier services and handling the customs issues.
Partner Type Personnel
Employee Responsible
Sales Personnel
You can enter an employee from your firm as the person responsible:
In the Customer Master If the employee is normally responsible for processing transactions with this customer.
In the Sales Document If the employee is responsible for processing the Business Transaction.
STEP WISE PROCESS FOR PARTNER DETERMINATION PROCEDURE
Sales and Distribution->Basic Functions->Partner Determination->set Up Partner Determination->Set up Partner Determination for Customer Master.
First go to OVT0 create customer account groups. Here you make new entries, click whether it is a one time customer, description. Also you can do the field selection here for general data, co. code data and sales area data.
Now go to IMG logistics general business partner customers control define & assign customer number ranges define the number. Here you range that you want and assign it to your customer account group.
Now go to VOPA here the selection will be on customer master, click on partner procedures, create the partner determination procedure. The following steps need to be done in partner determination area
Assign partner function to account group i.e SP,SH, BP, PY to account group (debit side ). Sales and Distribution->Basic Functions->Partner Determination->Assign Partner Functions on the debit side to account Groups.
Then create Partner Determination Procedure.
Assign the Partner Determination Procedure to Partner Function.
Then finally assign the Partner Determination Procedure to acc group.
Important Points in Business Partners and Partner Determination Procedure
Partner relationship maintained/defined in the customer master is proposed automatically in the document header when you create a sales document.
In customizing we can decide whether several partners can be assigned to one partner function in the customer master.
In sales documents, the system is configured so that only one partner can be assigned to each partner function.
We can define partners at item level in the sales documents.
Business Partners that are defined at the header level however cannot be changed at the item level.
You can prohibit anyone from changing a partner that has already been entered in a sales document.
It is also possible to manually change or enter the address of a partner, such as the Ship-to Party. This change does not affect the master record.

Business Partner creation for Customer Master creation

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We have customized our system in order to trigger the creation of Business Partner whenever a Customer Master is created.
I created some customers for which the Business Partner creation was not triggered due to some reason.. In order to manage the same, i created a Business Partner manually and tried to link the same to my customer through T Code FLBPD2, but system returned with a message "The business partner could not be linked to the customer selected" Message Number CVIC_UI023.
Can anyone suggest something.
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Pankaj

Hi Pankaj,
Please check wether you configured all required node under Master Data Synchronization..In SPRO..I am referring to below node.
Active Synchroniztion Options
Set BP role Category for customer Integration
Define BP Role for direction customer to BP
Field Assignment for customer Integration
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Creation of partner functions for customer master with LSMW

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I try to create partner functions together with a customer via Batch Input in LSMW.
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I use the structure BKNVP (Customer master partner functions) to create a new partner and set values for the fields KTONR and PARVW.
When I start the batch input the fields are filled in correctly in a new dynpro. After the confirmation of these values the dynpro changes back to the partner functions sscreen, but the value for KTONR isn'n being transferred. So I get an error message.
Is it only possible to update partner functions with that BI or what is going wrong ?
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Alex

Hi Alex,
Could you specify what error message you are getting?
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when I try to create one or more partner roles while creating a customer with IDOC DEBMAS basic type DEBMAS06 I get the error message:
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"Partner Determination Steps for Customer Master" clarification

Hi,
Let me clear myself at the outset itself, that I searched SDN for my below mentioned query, however I could not find any answer to my satisfaction....here I am posting again
In "Partner Determination for Customer Master", the following steps are undertaken -
Step 1:
1.a.) Create New Partner Determination Procedure
1.b.) For each Partner Determination Procedure, different Partner Functions, which are applicable for that specific determination procedure, are assigned. (along with other properties like if the PF is mandatory, not modifiable )
Step2:
"Partner Determination Procedure Assignment", here we assign different Partner Determination Procedure to different Account Groups. In other words, indirectly, we assign the partner functions to account groups. Right? (Please correct me if I am wrong)
Step3:
"Partner Function". Here we define new partner functions, (which are used in Step 1...)
Step4:
"Account Group- Function Assignment" - Here we assign the Partner Functions to Account Groups
Now My Question
(A) Since the Partner Functions are assigned (via partner determination procedure) to account groups in Step 1, then why Partner Functions are assigned AGAIN to account groups in Step 4. What is the significance of this assignment in Step 4.
(B) Is there is particular sequence of Steps (1 to 5), one should follow when somebody has to create new customer account group and/or new partner function.
Thanking you all in advance.

Dear SR
Leave SAP Partner Determination screen for 2 minutes and first understand the logic
1. Create the new partner functions
2. Create the new determination procedure
3. Link the new partner functions to the new determination procedure and add mandatory, non modifiable ,optional creteria
4. Assign the new determination procedure to the document type or account group at appropriate level
This is essence and this is for all 8 levels like CMR,sales doc header,item etc
Now coming to your qn
When you define a new account group ( you might be aware account group controls partner functions of CMR) you will say that your new account group will carry out patner functions like SP,SH,BP,PY
That is ACCOUNT GROUPS function assignment
Whenever you create a new account group you will do field selection in OBD2 like suppress optional.reqd etc,create no ranges and assign no ranges and also mainly this activity partner determination
These are must settings for a new account group
AG is the german key for sold to party Partner determination procedure
This is step 1
Then in next step you will tell AG will carry out such and such partner functions Step 2 like mandatory not modifiable etc
Step 3 is link the AG to your account group
Step 4 is partner functions say if you want to create a new partner function say SB special stock partner
(in concept this is the firststep)
Step 5 is once again partner function account group assignment
So when you create a new partner function you will do step 4 first and step 5 and then 1 and 2 and 3
when you create a new account group you will do step 5 and then 1 and 2 and 3
Hope you understand now
Partner functions are relatives in your family
Say in a family we have Father ,mother sister, brother (these 4 partner functions)
This is called as Happy Family and this Happy Family is the Partner determination procedure in SAP
This Happy Family is linked to the account group
So Happy family means there are 4 partner functions
So whenever you create a CMR in the account group this father.mother,brother,sister will come as default
Suppose you add another partner function say Uncle
First you have to create uncle
Then you have to tell this account group will accept uncle
Then link the uncle in the happy family that is determination procedure of SAP along with the 4
Then assign happy family to the account group
Now when you create a CMR along with father.mother,brother,sister along with that uncle will also come
Regards
Raja

Partner determination for sales doc header

Dear all
I assigned 2 SH to 1SP in customer master but in sales order system allowing manually to select any SH which is not assigned to SP.
waiting ur reply

Hi Lucky,
To map your requirement please use the following path:
IMG> Sales and Distribution> Basic Functions > Partner Determination> Set Up Partner Determination--> Select (Set Up Partner Determination for Sales Document Header). Here Select the Standard order & select Partner function in Procedure. Here against Ship-to-party Line you can see the ORIGINAL TABLE coloumn Here select "C" - Partner function from customer master (table KNVP).
By doing the above settings the system will allow only partners from Customer master records.
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While doing LSMW standard method for Customer master creation..

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FB012 Session 1 : Special character for 'empty field' is /
FB007 Session 1 session name ZPROJ was opened
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FB014 ... BKN00-STYPE 1
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FB014 ... BKN00-VKORG A1
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FB014 ... BKN00-KTOKD
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FB013 ....Editing was terminated
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Hello TJK,
FB012 Session 1 : Special character for 'empty field' is /
This is the special function in LSMW, for empty field system will put / sign automatically, so you need not to worry about that.
FB007 Session 1 session name ZPROJ was opened It is opening session ZPROJ which is your project name/object name.
FB109 Trans. 1 : Transaction xd01 is not supported
Check out your field mapping and conversion rule for object.
FB013 ....Editing was terminated
It is not finding proper field mapping rule / file inputs so the sytem terminates the LSMW object.
Check your field mapping and conversion rule, check your source fields, save the file in tab delimited format.
Hope this helps.
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