Question: Do Any Mac/Lightroom users use a case-sensitive filesystem?

I know most people use the default case-insensitive Mac filesystem. But plugins may have issues in a case-sensitive filesystem (if not explicitly programmed to handle case), which I just learned is an option for Mac users. Just wondering if any Lightroom users actually do it.
Thanks,
Rob

areohbee wrote:
I'm starting to think that having a case-sensitive filesystem on Mac would only be done by people with very special purposes in mind - e.g. developers who want to test unix command-line apps..., and would "always" be accompanied by case-insensitive volumes for normal Mac use - e.g. Lightroom-data/plugins/photos...
Ya think?
Almost certainly.
As I mentioned before, case-sensitivity is required for, among other things, POSIX compliance, which is of particular interest to a segment of the enterprise and interoperability spaces. Microsoft achieves this by a kernel change (and one of two POSIX-for-Windows licensed libraries) and offering a case-sensitive file system, NTFS. Apple achieves this by offering a way to make HFS+ case-sensitive, with kernel services and a BSD POSIX subsystem that is case-sensitive to the extent the file system is.
Note that apps that treat filespecs as unique when they differ only in case are not necessarily "poorly coded" as this would depend on context and application. There are some very, very good reasons to do so. In fact, one could make an argument that apps that cannot handle a case-sensitive environment are the poorly coded examples. Blindly assuming the case of a filespec makes it unique, or rewriting an existing filespec to a "corrected" one, are very dangerous assumptions.
For most of us, the defaults are more natural, and I would hazard a guess that Lr gets little or no QA under such environments. I know of at least one corner-case (exposed here) that would probably break.

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Hello everybody.
Today, I'd like to start a new thread regarding the configuration of OS X and the formatting of the drive with a HFS+ (case-sensitive, journaled) file system.
There is a problem that has been tormenting me for quite some time now, and so far I haven't been able to find a losution yet.
Here is the issue. When I bought my MacBook Pro (early 2011), I changed the main dirve to an hybrid SSD destinating the original 750GB to a Time Machine backup disk. As a consequence I had to make a fresh install of OS X. When it came the time of formatting I've opted for:
Creating two partitions: 1 for the OS and 1 for the user folder (I have only one admin-user). Back then, I was coming from a Win enviroment and having two partitions seemed to be the best option for me. (Less chanche of user-data corruption in case something goes wrong in the OS partition).
Chose a HFS+ (case-sensitive, journaled) file system. It seemed to be the more complete alternative.
Everything was absolutely for a couple of months then I encountered the first issue: Adobe products don't work on a case-sensitive fs.
I managed to get Photoshop to work eventually (manually correcing folders name) and didn't care too much about the rest.
In the meantime over a year has passed and I kept the mentioned configuration, uptdating to Lion and ML. Recently another couple of isses have appeared: AutoCAD presents the same problem as Adobe and there is an issue in the keyboard balcklight control (from forums seems that ML is not able to store any information in System Preferences regarding the backlight).
Despite the fact that case-sensitive fs seems to be the future solution chosen by Apple, it is still premature to have it as OS fs unless you are an hard-core developer that don't care about tons of programs that would eventually miss from your application folder.
Being decided to move back to a case-insesntive fs, I need wish I could calrify a couple of doubts before proceding:
(Not relatete to fs) Is it a good practice to keep user folder on a separate volume? Does it generates any issue on the base of your experience?
Is it possible to have the OS on case-insensitive fs and the user folder on a case-sensitive one? Does the OS have an issue with that?
The second point is the most critical as my data are now on a case-sensitive volume. They mostly consists in documents, images and music which should be migrated on a case-insensitive volume seamlessy, however, I'm not 100% sure about what happened during the last year (i.e. if there has been the generation of not-unique names).
Furhtermore, I wish I could keep a case-sens volume as I plan to be dealing with a Linux enviroment soon. If that could be the user volume, this would be amazing.
I'd also like to ask personal opinion on advantages of having case-sens fs.
I understand I asked lots of questions in a single post. I hope, however, that this thread could be a base to collect some of the quite dispersive topics related to case-sensitivity present on the web.
Best Regards,
Alexander

alexanderxc wrote:
Linc, in the provious post you said there might be issues having user data on a separte partition.
Which kind of issues are you tihnking of? Have you ever encountered such problems?
The biggest risk is that poorly written software will assume your home directory is at /Users/you and will fail (or worse) if it doesn't like what it finds there.
I really appreciated if you could be more specific and don't worry about being too technical.
There are two ways you can go about it.
1) Set everything up normally as if you only had one partition. Create your user on that one parition. Then, copy all the real user data to the 2nd partition. Using your admin account, make sure that all the permission on the user folder on the 2nd partition are the same as on the original partition. The, use System Preferences > Users & Groups > your account > right/control click > Advanced > Home directory and change it to the home directory on the 2nd partition. Log in to that new account. Make sure everything works. Then delete the user directory at /Users.
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I just got off of the phone with Adobe support. They told me they knew the solution, but that they would not tell me tonight. I had to call back between 6:00 am and 5:00 PM tomorrow. That does not work with my schedule. So I googled some stuff and found that Adobe CS 3 is not supported with Case-Sensitive file systems. So OK, let me install this to my other MAC that has a non case sensitive drive. Same error. Even though I have a non case-sensitive drive, the OS is on a Case-Sensitive Drive and I am never prompted where to install like most all other Mac Software.
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The Direct line I was given by adobe is 800-642-3623 for support on this issue. You don't need anything else but to call this number and ask. You can not get through after hours though.
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Case-sensitive can sometimes cause problems and is best avoided.
Interesting to note, Adobe software won't run on a case-sensitive volume.

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Hi, just a quick question. Is it possible to make user account login/passwords be case sensitive? At the moment they are case insensitive.
Thanks :)

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on the support site at http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-case-sensitive-drives-supported.html.
Why? Are you actively working on removing this limitation?
(I have other software I must use that has the opposite condition — it requires HSFX. I have submitted the reverse request to them.)
Thank you!

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You can fill out the feature request form ( https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform ) to request new features or suggest modifications to existing features.
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Question: Do Any Mac/Lightroom users use a case-sensitive filesystem?

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