Question on Back ups

I dont have experience in taking back ups.If we are loading data frequently and any explosions(loading) comes....
1)How to take the back of all rule files,data back up,calc scripts and the required things.
2)How to preserve them and in which location ?
3)How to restore back when we need it?
Kindly post the answer...

Hi,
A good place to start would be to read the essbase section in the backup and recovery guide :- http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12825_01/epm.111/epm_backup_recovery/launch.html
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

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Here's tough one I can't pin down answers to: I have an iMac Early 2008 running Lion. The main hard drive system (probably) corrupted over the course of 2-3 months until it became unusable. I had Sophos on it, but removed it about a month ago and reliability improved but only for about a week. Finally the hard drive crashed. I used the Recovery partition while able to have Disk Utility add a second partition to my back-up drive, which contains Time Machine back-ups, my iPhoto folder and a few other files but no system. I installed Snow Leopard from disk to the new partition, checked the first partition, which seemed fine, then upgraded the Snow Leopard partition to Lion and updated and ran under a temporary user. Next I explored the main drive, which Disk Utility said was fine, but doesn't always show up. While in Disk Utility, I noticed that the first partition on the back-up drive showed up as empty! After some panicking, I've a second back-up drive on the way, but how do I access the TIme Machine back-ups, get my original user back and get access to over 15 years of files that are locked into that user?
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Ok so wahat you mean is I need to name a partition "Time machine" in order for TM to back up any volumes and TM will always start with the volume titled Timemachine ?
so as I stated
A. All my OS applications _________Rename this to time machine or can I ues the volume name it is now?
B. All my files for those applications ---------Once that is done TM will back this up?
C. All My Itunes / Music etc---------Once that is done TM will back this u last?
Also I did a test run and I geet the error msg that the backup disk of my OS needs 1.36 TB but only 1.34 exists. The orignal OS disk has only 232GB of data why is tome machine asking for all that space?
I set the partition at 1.34 so there would be way more than enough space to copy.
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Im pretty sure it only keeps 1 or 2 backups. If you want to look, check in Program Files inside the C drive...

Back-ups with and without Time Machine + G -MINI

I've got a problem with my new G - MINI 500GB running on an iMac intel 10.5.1/ 230GB. I hope someone can help me with this.
Overview of problem: I need more hard disc space and opted for an external drive. I would have got a G _Tech Q 500 gb drive but there weren't any immediately available so got the G -MINI 500. Basically this is for video and large audio files. Anyway, I plugged the new MINI in and it pretty much set itself up. Time Machine offered to do a back up of my whole system and contents, I clicked 'accept' and excluding a few items in the options pane in TM it came to around 210 GBs now on the MINI. As I need to take the Mac in for servicing a defective LCD I thought a back up of the system a good idea. I added a few other video files in a separate folder on the MINI. I then thought that was way too much- I will need more than the remaining 245 GBs for future stuff. So I wanted to get some more space back and thinking that it would work pretty much like the Mac's own hard disc and Flash USB drives I just tried to send some files from the back-up folder on the MIni to the trash in the dock. I got a message saying I couldn't trash any files included in a back-up! Kinda locked. I tried trashing one of the video files that wasn't in the system TM back-up folder and it did go to the trash but then I checked the available memory on the MINI hadn't reflected change: the size of that file wasn't added to the 'available memory'. Buff, problem.
Anyway, I then decided to trash the whole back-up folder and everything else. All went in the trash can in the dock but again, despite expecting the Mini's space to have been freed up, like any hard drive or other storage device, it hadn't been. It still counted 210 GB used up. To make sure I emptied the trash as well but again with no result.
I couldn't access the trashed files in any way now but the Mini was obviously counting them. What's going on?
So then used DisK Utility to check the MINI, same result, and then completely exasperated I just went ahead and partitioned it, that seeming the best option at the time. I got the space back but lost about 230 MG in the process. Annoying all in all. Now, I didn't want a Drive that you can't eliminate files from without having to erase the whole bl**dy disk! This seems to be the only way to get space back from the MINI's drive but it seems ludicrous. What am I doing wrong, what don't I know?
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Thanks in advance for any replies.
Oh and I'm posting this here because there is nothing in G Tech support about this and the post I sent to the G Tech forum goes unanswered after 2 days already - it seems like a simple question that someone should know the answer to. I want to know if I should just simply copy files to the mini and not bother with system files unless I really want to make a back up. A final question would also be: what exact folders are needed to make just a simple system back up but without all the clutter that you could reinstall from the discs anyway?
Thanks!
Message was edited by: Paul Quemades

If you just want to drag a few files around how about create a folder on the external drive. I know some say you shouldn't do this, but TM will still work even if there is another folder on the same volume you use for backing up with TM. In that folder you can drag whatever into it, just as you are able to do on any flash drive.
But let's revisit how TM works. I don't understand the detailed operation of TM but once it establishes the initial large copy of your Operating System, subsequent small changes are linked back to the big one, so when in the Time Machine window with all of the different backups over the past days or weeks, clicking on any one of them will show you what appears to be the same thing - the contents of your hard disk. In amongst that will be the small changes or added files.
To save it recreating by and large the same appearance of your hard disk each time it reuses the initial copy and just adds any changes. It does this by associating any newly changed or newly added file to the base copy, by using links. It is like creating a context for the file, so TM is making file X linked to folder Y which is part of application Z. If we want that file back using TM, it will know that file X has certain associations and it will put it back where it got it from.
When we drag that same file to another location, it is just that file in isolation. It has no context. The only association it has, is what we remember about it, "that photo was taken at Lucy's wedding" for instance. TM or the computer for that matter doesn't know who Lucy is, or even that she is a human being.
So in our flesh and blood reality, we see files as objects that have meaning to us, but to the computer it is all just data that has a place and a function. Time machine is a kind of illusion. It is also a Place machine by replacing files in previous places.
You say to use TM to just store "things like personal documents, music, video and other such stuff, unrelated to system back ups, seems such a fussy and tedious way to do it,..." I agree, but TM has the advantage of being able to restore any file no matter how obscure, or even restore your whole OS if you needed to. You can always retrieve any document or song or photo from TM by going into TM and having it restore that document. Not you dragging and dropping but letting it do it. The other advantage of TM is that it will keep variations of the same file as it is changed, such as various drafts as they are edited.
Maybe a more suitable backup application for you may be SuperDuper, where you can greatly control what is backs up. The disadvantage of superDuper is it won't keep older versions of something, rather make a fresh copy of that folder each time you use it.
So you have a few options, but I think if you can get used to opening TM and locating the files that it automatically saved, and telling it to restore those back to your hard drive, it may well serve your needs.
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External Hard Drive Full, how do I delete back ups from years ago?

I have a LaCie 500GB external hard drive. I bought it to store my iTunes library on it, then when Time Machine came out a few years ago, I began backing up using Time Machine onto the same drive. Now the drive is about full, but it is mostly full from backups. How do I delete older back ups that are from almost 3 years ago? I can seem to go in there and do anything. I need more room for my iTunes library.
I also recently bough a portable G-Drive 500 GB hard drive for my photos. So I was thinking I'll just change my Time Machine backup to that. Or just transfer my iTunes to that one so I can carry it on the road. But that'll take awhile I know, and the connection is not as fast, as its only USB whereas my LaCie is an F-400 connection.
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saxman66 wrote:
I have a LaCie 500GB external hard drive. I bought it to store my iTunes library on it, then when Time Machine came out a few years ago, I began backing up using Time Machine onto the same drive. Now the drive is about full, but it is mostly full from backups. How do I delete older back ups that are from almost 3 years ago? I can seem to go in there and do anything. I need more room for my iTunes library.
I take it everything is in the same partition? If so, that's (obviously) a problem. Ordinarily, you'd just let Time Machine handle it -- it will delete the oldest backup(s) when it needs room for new ones.
You can do this manually, though. See #12 in [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
I also recently bough a portable G-Drive 500 GB hard drive for my photos. So I was thinking I'll just change my Time Machine backup to that. Or just transfer my iTunes to that one so I can carry it on the road. But that'll take awhile I know, and the connection is not as fast, as its only USB whereas my LaCie is an F-400 connection.
That would be an excellent idea. In addition to not having to manually delete old backups, you can let Time Machine back up the other disk, as well as your internal HD. Be sure to format it +Mac OS Extended (Journalled).+

I had to reformat my OSX 10.5.8 and i can't restore my emails from my time machine backup from an external hard drive - only the latest (post backup) time machine back ups are available to restore. Please can any help

I had to reformat my OSX 10.5.8 and I can't restore my emails from my time machine backup from an external hard drive - only the latest (post backup) time machine back ups are available to restore. Please can any help? I can find the mail folder in my libraries, but the Restore Button is grayed out

OSX treats the reformatted drive as a different one; it's the same as replacing it, and the old one is no longer connected.
See #E3 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting to see and restore from the "old" drive.
And, you may not want to restore via the Finder; see the blue box in #15 of Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.

Clicking noise from back-ups

Since replacing my G5 with a new mac mini I hear frequent clicking noises from the APC Back-UPS that I have it plugged into. The only obvious difference is that the mini has an ungrounded two-prong plug while the G5 had a grounded three-prong plug. The clicking noise consists of two clicks in succession, the second one slightly lower in pitch. This occurs at random intervals but also in response to anything that I'm doing on the computer such as opening or closing an application, resizing a window, visiting or exiting a website, etc. Occassionally it will happen when the computer is asleep in which case I will hear the fan running briefly in the mini although the monitor doesn't wake up. When this happens I will often see the internet activity monitor light flashing on my dsl modem. I don't know if these noises are a sign that something isn't working properly or just an annoyance. In either case I would welcome suggestions on how to stop it as well as any ideas as to what might be causing it. The APC unit provides battery back-up power in the case of a power outage and surge protection. I submitted my question to APC support but got no response. I also talked to someone at AppleCare and he had no idea what was causing this and wasn't even sure if he knew what I was asking about. However lots of people use back-ups units so someone out there must have experienced this phenomena besides me.

I checked that box but wasn't around the sleeping computer long enough to tell if it made a difference. I plugged in a lamp with a dimmer and turned it up and down with no effect. Then I had an idea. I'm going to wait a couple of days before marking this as definitely solved, but here's what happened:
The UPS has three outlets marked "controlled by master." Anything plugged into these gets it's power turned off when the computer is sleeping. I had long ago moved the peripherals to the other outlets because I didn't like having my computer and monitor wake up whenever I turned on the printer just to use the copy function. Near the power button on the UPS is another smaller button with a graphic symbol. If you hold this down for a few seconds it turns off the "master enable" function. After I did this the clicking stopped.
This still leaves some unanswered (though no longer important) questions: Why was this an issue with the mini but not with the G5? Why was I getting clicking noises in response to doing things on the computer even with the usb connection to the UPS disconnected? Why was I also getting them even when the computer was asleep? One possible factor is the usb hub. The old one was on a pci card, while the new one is external with a power cord connected to the UPS. Another factor may be the ungrounded power plug on the mini vs. the grounded one on the G5. At any rate it looks like the problem is solved, at least for now.

No risk at using APC Back UPS RS1500 :-)

I recently posted this question...
See thread
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3243602#3243602
The technician at APC informed me that if I have a 2006 Mac the problem is solved and can use the RS 1500 without any risk.
I had also asked him if there was coming up any software update of Powerchute, and there isn`t any coming out soon.
Thought this to be usefull for some other people in doubt.
MacPro 2.66, X1900, 2GB RAM/iMac G4, 800Mhz, 768MB SDRAM Mac OS X (10.4.7) 500GB d2 BigDisk, 250GB d2 BigDisk, Nikon D2X, APC Back UPS 1500

Ned,
Not that i want to keep going on about this, but i do beleive your power supplys on your Mac Pro's will still buzz when using a UPS that produces a stepped/simulated wave sine whilst running in battery back up mode.
See this post below which is another forum member having the same problems (Mac Pro/RS 1000):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=656361
Also Marcy Boy is having the same exact same problem with his setup - APC RS 1500 with his Mac Pro.
The problem is still there, i just dont think alot of you know it because you cant hear your PSU over the UPS when its running in back up mode because of the noise the UPS is generating.
Now i am as keen as any other worried forum member to put this whole matter to rest, but i feel APC has thobbed you off and the problem still persists. Weather your running a powermac or mac pro.
Sorry Pob

Time Machine back-ups of files in an external HD drive connected to the Mac?

I usually use Time Machine for automatic back-ups of all the content in my Mac, into a Time Capsule device.
I intend now to transfer my heavier files (domestic video files for example) to a new external Hard Drive, in order to release storage espace in the Mac itself. But I want to keep the automatic back-up feature that I have already for my Mac content, also for the files that will be transferred to the external drive. I do not want to take the risk of loss of these external files without having a back-support for recovering in case of damages.
The question is: How can I configure the Time Machine to make automatically the back-up of the external drive content into the Time Capsule, in the same automatic way than the rest of files in the Mac? Is that possible for such an external drive?
Thanks in advance for your support and best regards,
Alejandro

External drives are automatically added to the TM exclusion list. To back them up, all you have to do is remove them from that list in the TM preference pane. Click Options.

Removing Corrupt Back-ups in Time Machine

I had a serious crash yesterday. While trying to install XCode the machine locked up and I had to reboot by turning it off using the power button. When I restarted I got the folder icon with the question mark. Rebooted using the installation disk and after restoring using the latest time machine back-up I successfully booted the machine, however, my user file, one of 3, would not open, giving the message that the File Vault pass word was not accepted due to an error. I reverted to an earlier back-up and fixed all the problems with minimal data loss. It seems that whatever corruption caused the problem was backed up on the late time machine back-ups.
So, is it safe to simply delete those later back-ups? Time Machine really saved me here and I don't want to make a mistake by deleting something I shouldn't.

Hello M:
I would be guessing if I suggested what would happen….
However, if you decide to delete some of your Time Machine backups, do it INSIDE Time Machine. This is a slow process (one at a time), but it is the safe way of removing old backups.
Barry

How to recover old Back ups made with time machine?

After a recovery with time machine to a very early back up, it completly deleted my old back ups from my back up drive? I had almost everything there. how can i get it back? is there any way?

Hi Patsmith7,
i think I understand what you're asking. You'd like to move the current Time Machine backup to a new HD so that it will never be written over as you continue to use the current HD where the data resides. If that is correct, then just follow the below link which will show you a very simple way of accomplishing this.
If you only want to move a specific date then you will have to follow the same instructions in the link but click on the drop down arrow on the current backup which will show you each instance (date) of the backups. Grab the date that you're interested in and complete the move as instructed in the link to the new HD.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5096?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Good Luck and let me know if you have any other questions.

Where are the back ups?

Hi all
I'm new to this forum and as my Mac has recently been causing me an increasing amount of problems it's likely that I shall be frequenting the site more often, I shall look forward to your assistance and who knows I might even be able to share some of my experiences and knowledge...
Anyway to the problem at hand.......
I've been running Time Machine since November 08.
I turned on the Mac today and it says it's lost connection with the backup disk and hasn't backed up for 10 days. For what reason only it knows since the external drive hadn't been touch or interferred with in anyway.
Anyhow, the drive wasn't visible in Finder so I unplugged then replugged it and it is now seen.
However.......
When I go into Time Machine there are only hourly back ups
from 20.00hrs 10/02/09
to 9.00hrs 11/02/09
Okay it's the 21st today and it hasn't backed up for 10 days but where is everything preceding 20.00hrs 10/02/09?
I'm slightly worried.

Armouries wrote:
from 20.00hrs 10/02/09
to 9.00hrs 11/02/09
Okay it's the 21st today and it hasn't backed up for 10 days but where is everything preceding 20.00hrs 10/02/09?
Hi, and welcome to the forums.
A few questions:
How much data is on your internal HD (ie, how much is TM backing-up)?
How big is your TM drive, and how much space is available now?
Download the +Time Machine Buddy+ widget. It shows the messages from your logs for one TM backup run at a time, in a small window.
Navigate to the first backup today (after the 10-day gap). Copy and post the messages here (be sure to get them all, as sometimes they overflow the small window).
With those messages, and the sizes above, we can figure out what's going on.

Daily Back ups.

I just have a quick question to ask about time machine.
Are daily back ups a combination of all the hourly back ups of that day? Or is a daily back up just the files I had on my mac at the beginning of that day.
Just curious,
Steve A Stewart

Once the later backups are deleted for a given day, any file that wasn't on the computer at the time of the first backup of that day, and was gone prior to the first backup of the next day, is no longer in the Time Machine.
If the file was on the machine at the time of the first backup of a given day, and was then edited, and the edited file was still on the machine at least at the point of the first backup of the next day, then two copies of that file (the original and the edited version) are in the Time Machine until the daily backups are deleted to leave only weekly backups.
The way to remember this is that any given backup retained in Time Machine always reflects entirely AND ONLY the state of the file system at that point in time -- without regard to what changes were made to files/folders before or after that point in time.
Thus the deletion of hourly backups (to leave only a daily backup), or the deletion of daily backups (to leave only a weekly backup) can not alter the daily or weekly backup retained in the Time Machine because that wouldn't be a true record of what the file system actually looked like at the time of that retained daily or weekly backup.
--Bob

Merge 2 time machine back ups on 1 back up drive?

I was running low on space on the USB drive I use to back up my Air, OS 10.6.5 with TIme Machine, and I had a new USB drive handy, so I just used the new drive. Now I have 2 USB drives and each has a time machine back up file, "Backups.backupdb"
I'd like to free up the first USB drive, and have the use of all of those old TIme Machine backups on the new drive.
It's clean up time, trying to reorganize my back ups and drives... is there any way to save the old Time Machine back ups from the old drive in usable format?
Thank you for any help
(btw, I do not want to upgrade to the latest versions of Mac OS's)

Funny you should mention... it was Pondini's TM FAQs that sent me here
If they answered this question, I missed it.
I have also read up on http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5096
But neither could tell me how to manage the back up files when I had already started another external drive as backup disk.
I am currently copying all the files from the original back up drive to the new drive under another folder, it's taken about 10 hours so far, estimates 6 hours more to go.
And on the apple bulletin, it said I should uncheck "ignore ownership on this volume", which I failed to note.
Thanks for the link though, its a great one. If I missed it there, (and I checked Troubleshooting too) please let me know?

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