Question on Premiere Forum Structure

Now that the Premiere forums have been restructured, I have a question. From the titles of the various forums, it appears that Premiere Pro CS2 is in the "Premiere Pro 2.x and earlier" catagory. Since there was but CS2, I wonder about the ".x" designation, there was never a 2.1, 2.5, 2.anything. I see the "Premiere (CS versions)," and Premiere Pro CS2 was definitely a "CS" version, and I am getting lost. It was hard enough trying to figure out the various version designations of previous editions of the software, especially when the "Pro" designation came in and then the CS/CS2 versions came out and was called PP and PP2, though they came out long after higher numbers in the non-Pro designations. Just where in the heck SHOULD questions on Premiere Pro CS2 be placed? While I'm asking questions about forum structure, has any thought been given to rolling the "Production Studio" forum into the Premiere forums? Where should Encore questions go? I'd still think in the Encore forums, but since it is only available bundled with Premiere, since CS3, I wonder. I saw a lot of Encore questions in the old CS3 forums. Would the MODs want them to be posted into the Encore forum? I'd think so, but do not really know. [Disclaimer] I am in no way advocating that Adobe change anything about the forums. That was tried, and I still vividly recall days of being without my Adobe forums. Please do not do that again! <Grin> Just trying to get this all straight in my feeble mind. Thanks, Hunt

While the Creative Suite moniker was introduced with 2.0, in my physical package, only Photoshop and Illustrator use the CS2 name. Premiere Pro is just called 2.0. After Effects is called 7.0. Encore is 2.0 and Audition is 2.0.
CS wasn't used across the board until CS3, so I can see why the forum headings are labeled as they are.

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How do questions disappear from forum?

How do questions disappear from the Premiere forum? Since I have a GTX 480 and am interested in learning how significant a difference official support for mercury playback is, vs hacked support, I had entered a question soliciting feedback from owners of GTX 470 video cards. Someone with almost 12,000 posts took exception to my post, I responded, and my post can no longer be found.
Is there a problem with the forum software?

Steve,
Do not recall that post, but then things have been pretty fast and furious in the CS5 forum.
Now, there are a couple of ways that posts can disappear, or seem to do so:
1.) a moderator can Lock a thread, or can branch things off into a new thread. This just happened today, however both original threads are still there, just not separated.
2.) Adobe Admin. can remove a thread (do not think that a MOD can do that - only Lock, Move, or branch?), but would not likely do so, unless it was obviously spam. Even then, the thread would likely remain, with all URL's "[Edited by Host]" or similar.
3.) a moderator can Move a thread, say if one was posted to the CS5 forum, and it was really concerning CS4, or earlier. This can also happen, if a thread is best suited for the Hardware Forum (would be my first guess in your case), or to the Lounge, if I have managed to drag it too far off-topic. Check the Hardware Forum, 'cause that is where I would expect such a post to be.
4.) when Adobe went to the new software, many older posts went to bit-heaven I highly doubt that anything like that happened here. We lost a few posts when there was a major Jive update, but there has not been such an update in ~ 8 mos.
5.) one can often not see posts, if they access the forum via e-mail, instead of a browser. I would guess that with some feeds, that could happen too, but do not know.
Good luck, and do check the Hardware Forum,
Hunt
PS - usually, when Jeff, Jerry.K, Curt, et al, Moves a post, they try to let the poster know. Still, with CS5.0.2 hitting, and all the traffic, maybe they slipped up, ran completely out of time, or tried, and failed in the notification. Most likely, if one of the MOD's did Move it, they'll jump right in and report having done so. They are great, though sometimes details might get lost on a busy day, especially if they are trying to get out of town to be with their families on a holiday weekend (US) to indulge themselves in their "other lives." Or, they could be packing up to avoid a hurricane - Earl.

Changes in PrPro Forum Structure

Looks like we got a change in the Forum structure for PrPro (I've seen some changes in other forums too).
So far, I have to say that I like it. Only concern would be for those users on CS 4 and Earlier, who might get lost a bit, and just post to the CS 5 - CS 6 Forum. I assume that the MOD's are prepared to look for those, and Move the posts, or direct the posters, as is required.
Good luck to us all,
Hunt

Well , I dont know about you guys...but for ME.. it's like reminding me of when I used to take my dog out for a walk every night about 9pm.. without her leash , cause there was a park out in front of the house and everyone around the park area ( neighbors and their pets and kids ) knew each other and liked it...the freedom.
And then one night I put the LEASH on her.. and she looked at me like I was out of my MIND...
" What's THIS ????" Is what she said with her body language ( sorta trying to pull her head out of the leather strap )
ITS DIFFERENT !
And the reason I did that is not important, but the response was important. Yanna didn't like it at first.. Most people would have wondered who was walking WHO for the first few nights of this new situation.

Question to the forum My question really has to do with the replace stuff

Question to the forum
My question really has to do with the replace stuff from imovie 09
Ok when I pick up the stuff from the event library and pull up to the top it does not replace at play head or end or start
It mainly erases everything that is on there b4 so
So I am not sure
I actually also wanted to know what is the difference of just dragging to the end or end
And all these replacing options like replace at start end or replace alone for that matter ….

Hello again. Just to let you know I have solved the problem. Backed up my new phone. Then wiped all settings and everything off it to start again. When it relaunches it gives you the option to download from Icloud and you can pick from which back-up date you want to download it from. Picked the one from the day before it got trashed and HEY PRESTO, we have all the pictures and videos back!!! Iphone 0 - 1 Voodooboy78
I'm sure people will look at this and be like duhhhhhh but to me it is a VICTORY over technology!!! Peace

How the @#$& do I search for my questions in the forum???

I want to find my previous questions in this forum. This is easy in the Seamonkey forum, but appears impossible here???

Use the '''My Contributions''' hyperlink to the right of '''''Show:'''''

2 questions about this forum

Since the forums have been reorganized (yeah, I know its been a while). I never fail to be confused when I try to use them.
For instance:
1) At the top of the list of questions for adobe Bridge general discussion, I see the Heading:
"Trending Questions"
What on earth is that supposed to mean. What does "trending" mean in this unusual usage?
2) How can I get an advanced search dialog for this particular forum? When I click on the `Be sure to search the forum' link it just pops me to a new page apparently 1 layer back from this forum to Bridge with the lamest search dialog I've seen on any forum.
I'd like to search for a particular poster, or a particular date range or etc etc. How can I do that?

Curt Y wrote:
Had to do a little research as "trending questions" was a puzzler. You are looking at the bridge general discussion page, and I always bring up the Bridge Forum page where trending is not there. Think it refers to current questions.
Some forums have a "search this forum only" box, but none has been set up here. You can the user name and have it return posts. If you know the subject it is still more complete search to use google.
Back on an older thread ... You mention "Bringing up" the bridge forum on a different page than the one with that silly "Trending questions" baloney.
I'm curious how you do that... when I find the forums, ususally from a google search with "Adobe forums" Bridge or insert another adobe product where you see "Bridge" in the string. That always lands me at the page with "Trending Questions" and with no obvious way to get to the actual forum other than a list near the top of page that includes "Bridge: General Discussion"... ok, clicking that again brings a page with the "Trending questions" non-sense.
At that point the only way I see to get to the actual forum is to click one of the "Trending questions", from that page you can see a link at the top that says: " Adobe Community > Bridge > Bridge General Discussion > Discussions "
where you can finally get to a usable forum page.
One could, of course, book mark that... but it seems like a very unnecessary and convoluted path to find a usable forum.
I'm guessing there is some other obvious way I'm not seeing?

Asking Questions in different forums...

I used to be able to figure out how to ask questions in individual forums easily. Last night, from my home computer, I could NOT figure out how to ask any forum any question.
I am now at work on a Dell Something-or-other PC and it works easily.
Why is this???
Thanks for your help - Dennis

Hey denmicone - you think that's bad, I can't even figure out if you're asking a question or making a statement... OR are you saying you could not POST a question 'cause your iMac wasn't working right over your internet connection at home. You think your puzzled, I'm already lost and it's only 7:30AM, please enlighten us, Good luck, Rick
iMac G5 iSight 20" - 30G iPOD in Slimming Black - HP Pav and Toshiba Sat Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Is there a limit of number of questions in this forum?

Because I posted some questions which were removed..

Is there a limit of number of questions in this forum? No, but forum etiquette strongly suggests you keep a thread on any individual topic continuous (that means together no matter how long that thread might become). So, you should NOT post separate individual questions for every tiny nuance you might have.
The inherent nature of a forum is that thread topics get spread far apart as time goes by. If your inquiry is splattered into individual new posts, they WILL get scattered and your topic will no longer make any sense.
Anyone you hope to respond to you will lose all focus on the topic and will just no longer try to give you answers.

Answering questions on the forums

Hello everyone,
I am preparing to give a targeted resumé to Apple in the coming weeks and had the idea that my knowledge of apple products or more importantly ability to find relevant information may serve Apple in the best way if I can be paid for answering questions on these forums and any other forums Apple identifies as representative of their services. So my question is this: is it possible to be paid a wage for answering questions on forums? This need not be an in house operation, as I think my internet connection at home would suffice. I also speak fluent French and could answer questions of a high level of sophistication in French. Alors c'est possible?
Merci et Thank you
-Shawn

Shawn ~ Although these forums are voluntary, Apple has positions for US students and college graduates as At-Home Advisors:
http://www.apple.com/jobs/us/students.html
0x0101 wrote:
...my knowledge of apple products or more importantly ability to find relevant information may serve Apple...
But yesterday in these Communities you asked a question "Where can I find the manual for my machine" — which you could have found the answer to with a simple search like THIS.

Basic questions about Premiere Elements 8

I'm new to this forum and although I use Photoshop Elements extensively, I am just trialling Premiere Elements 8. I have a number of questions from my (very limited) testing so far:
1. Most of the videos that I download from my Sony DCR-DVD110 DVDs behave fine, but one of them only has half an audio track. The full audio was there on the DVD, but in the project it appears that the second half of the audio has been moved to overlay the first half, instead of following on. The video format is VOB. Has anyone else had this problem, or could suggest how it can be remedied?
2. I understand from the help that I can split incoming video from a DV camcorder using the timecode on the tape. However, I do not seem to get the same option when downloading from DVD as above. The scene-splitter in the project list only allows content detection (which is unreliable), or regular divisions. Does anyone know if there a timecode on the VOB files, and is there a way of using this to split video into clips that is more reliable than scene detection?
3. I do not understand the red/green line that appears under the Timeline ruler, just above the video. In one project, I have cleared clips out of the timeline and copied new ones in. The green or red line no longer changes at clip boundaries. Where it is green, the clip audio plays back, but not the video. Where it is red, both play. I do not seem to be able to find out what this means, let alone how to change it, and do not know how I set it in the first place. Does anyone know what this coloured line means, and how to change it so that all of the clips play both audio and video?
4. When I start the program from the Welcome Screen, it gives me the option of opening an old project. Even though I select the project that I wish to open, this does not happen. Premiere Elements 8 starts, but the project does not load. Is this just a limitation of the trial version, or a common problem? Can I skip the Welcome screen and go straight into Premiere Elements 8?
I'm looking to buy Premiere Elements 8 along with an upgrade to Photoshop Elements 8, for the compatibility and common file organiser, but so far the above problems are putting me off a purchase. The programme also does not seem to be as intuitive as Studio 7, which was the last video editing software that I used (some years ago, taking data from a DV camcorder).
Your help and any recommendations that you may be able to add would be most welcome.

Virtually all of your problems are related to your trying to edit video from a DVD camcorder. Although the program is supposed to be able to work with these video files, they can be very problematic if your computer's operating system is not fully updated, you lack the current version of Quicktime and you do not have the proper codecs installed.
The red lines you're seeing above your video on the timeline are indications of this. These are indications that your video needs to be rendered by the program in order for the program to work with it.
If you'd like to try to work with DVD cam video despite these liabilities, there are things you can do to improve performance somewhat.The FAQs to the right of this forum explain how and why.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317?tstart=0
But I recommend you convert your VOB files to DV-AVIs before you bring them into Premiere Elements. This will likely remedy nearly all of your problems (assuming your computer's hardware and software are up to the necessary specs and are fully updated).

FAQ: What information should I provide when asking a question on this forum?

When asking a question on the Premiere Pro user-to-user forums, you can make it easier for folks to help you by proactively providing the answers to the following questions:
What version of Premiere Pro? Include the minor version number (e.g., Premiere Pro CC 2014.2 (8.2)).
Have you installed the recent updates? (If not, you should. They fix a lot of problems.)
What operating system? This should include specific minor version numbers, like "Mac OSX v10.9.5"---not just "Mac".
What kind(s) of source footage? When telling about your source footage, tell us about the codecs, not just the container types. For example, "H.264 in a .mov container", not just "QuickTime".
If you are getting error message(s), what is the full text of the error message(s)?
What were you doing when the problem occurred?
Has this ever worked before?
What other software are you running?
Do you have any third-party effects or codecs installed?
Tell us about your computer hardware. Be especially certain to tell us about your GPU, any third-party I/O hardware (e.g., AJA, Matrox, Blackmagic, MOTU) and the type of media drives you are using.
What kind of GPU do you have installed, including make, model number, and GPU driver?
Are you using Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration?
Do you still have the issue when choosing Project Settings > General > Renderer > Mercury Playback Engine (Software Only)?
Does the problem only happen with your final output, with previews, or both?
Screenshots and sample movies are often very useful in showing exactly what you're seeing, and can thus make getting an answer faster and easier.
Also, please do everyone a favor and check the Premiere Pro FAQ list and also do a quick Premiere Pro Community Help search to see if your question has been addressed already.

Try contacting support directly. Be sure to ask for the video queue: Contact Customer Care

Spate of basic questions in webdynpro forum

Hi SDNers,
I would like to bring into your notice that last two days many basic questions have flooded the webdynpro forum. The questions contain something like "what is the purpose of .....", where it is used ?etc.
I was wondering that if someone doesn't even know the purpose of using some feature, what could cause them to post a question on the same..doesn't seem like there was some requirement with them. Its not just one or two questions but numerous, theoretical and on so many different topics. As if they have been given a question paper and they want quick, ready made answers without caring to search the SDN or help documentation.
We have also not refrained ourselves from answering such questions (Some of us must be unaware that there was a series of such questions to follow, when we answered the initial ones). We are here to discuss and learn more, together, when we try to solve the queries posted in forums & hence threads such as the following are really irritating.
Here are some of recent threads:
system template
JCo Destinations
Object Value Selector
Supply functions
Server Side Eventing
Viewset
Structure binding
Development Components
Repository
/thread/1290675 [original link is broken]
Service Controller
Model object
Message Pool
I only wanted to share what I thought as incorrect & I found this forum most suitable for posting this thread. I personally think that we should discourage such queries but then it is upto an individual's discretion and opinion to post a reply to them.
Regards,
Anagha

Keep hitting the Report Abuse button. Most repeat offenders lose their accounts if they dont mend their ways after a couple of warnings.
pk

How to effectively ask a question on this forum

Ok, so this'll take a little explaining. I was kinda bored over my lunch break, so i decided I'd write a general reference for how to post well on this forum. I realize that many people aren't gonna read this the first time they post, but i thought it would be a good thing to reference when replying to people who post a poor question.
_10 Ways to Post a Good Question on this Forum_
_1) Write a descriptive subject line_
This is the first thing that people see, and it influences how they read a question. Subjects like "Java error" tell people nothing about your problem. Subjects like "How to implement a SAX parser for use in multiple classes" are infinitely more useful.
_2) Don't use phrases such as URGENT or HELP ME!!! or IT'S DUE IN AN HOUR!!!!_
The people on this forum don't have the same priorities as you, and therefore don't care if your problem is urgent. In fact, they find it rude to assert that your problem should be solved before somebody else's just because you procrastinated. They also don't pleas for help too fondly. Typically posters who write this sort of phrase in their post has given up and become helpless, making it very difficult to guide them to the answer. Also, keep the caps lock off. THERE IS NOTHING MORE ANNOYING THAN ALL-CAPS POSTS. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE YELLING, and people will make you aware of how it annoys them.
_3) Dont post your homework assignments asking for "teh codez"_
You will get flamed like none other for this sort of question. You may get codes, but when you submit them to your instructor, you may get suspended or expelled (depending on your school's cheating policy). The people on this forum are more advanced than you in Java, and can make it painfully obvious to your instructor that you cheated.
_4) Write in normal English_
Think of this forum as your supervisor or instructor, you want to sound professional and convey your question effectively. SMS speak or any other sort of abbreviation of the English language becomes difficult to read, and many people on this forum won't even try. This forum is filled with professionals in the Java world, and they are accustomed to reading true English (full sentences).
_5) Don't be helpless_
This forum is here mainly to help with specific problems, not to teach you Java. If you don't know where to start, a person is most likely going to tell you to write the solution out on paper first, breaking it down into small steps that can be accomplished by the computer.
_6) Do your research_
Many of the questions posted can be solved with a quick Google search. You should check a few places before you even post a question. They include: this forum (do a forum search), Google (do a Google search), the API's (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/), and the Java Tutorials(http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/)
_7) Post code and errors with your question_
The answer to your problem is in the error messages and the code. Instead of asking a general question about for loops, post the code that you have written and the error info that you get. When asking a question it is IMPERATIVE that you have tried to do it your own way, because the people on the forum mostly won't do it for you, they'll only point out where you have done it wrong and try to help you fix it. Don't paraphrase your error messages, because there are subtleties in the actual messages that you may unknowingly edit out.
_8) Don't Multi-post_
It is rude to post the same question multiple times or in multiple places in the this forum. This is for the same reason as #2, it makes it seem that you think your problem is more urgent or important than others' problems.
_9) Don't resurrect dead threads_
If a thread is 3 years old, nobody is going to remember it, so make a new thread to ask your question. If you have a question about something in the old thread, reference it through a hyperlink.
_10) Take it easy_
As long as the people in the forum see that you're legitimately trying to help yourself, they'll help you as much as they see fit. The biggest problem that newbies have is they rely on the forum to spoonfeed them the info, and it's not going to happen. They'll either get flamed or ignored. The people on the forum aren't trying to find "fresh meat to flame", they legitimately want to help you, and they'll typically give you fair warning if you're doing something annoying or unorthodox.

There does seem to be a way to sticky posts, but I think only mods and admins have the power to do it. There's one over on the Generics forum : http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=316
I've been trying to add a pseudo-signature to my posts as far as possible, with a link to a page which pretty much covers this stuff, only it's on JavaRanch:
People on the forum help others voluntarily, it's not their job.
Help them help you.
Learn how to ask questions first: http://faq.javaranch.com/java/HowToAskQuestionsOnJavaRanch
But I've had a couple of occasions where the OPs thought it was directed at them and they got a tad upset :)
And without hyperlinks, I'm not quite sure how many people actually take the pains to go to that page.
Ah well, no one can say I didn't try.

Vob Import Question in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1

Hello,
Prior to posting, I read numerous posts related to importing vob files in Premiere. None of them seemed to address the particular problem I am experiencing, and I was hoping to find an answer here in the forums. Here's what I am attempting to accomplish:
1) Export the vob files (there are 4 of them) from a commercial movie DVD to hard disk
2) Import the vob files into a Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 project
3) Build a sequence out of the 4 vob files
4) Replace the sound in two very short segments to eliminate profane language so that my children may watch the movie
5) Import the sequence into Encore CS4 and burn a standard DVD
I was successful in all of the above steps 1-5. So what's the problem? I noticed, when viewing the output DVD, that at a certain point (only a single point) in the movie, the sound was garbled and the frames got 'wonky' (a technical term I picked up from Deke McClelland). My first assumption, was that I had messed something up somewhere in my editing process. When I navigated to the problematic time in my Premiere project, I saw that there was a problem in that at a certain point, the video would flicker, after which the audio would be out of sync with the video and would remain so until the end of the sequence. If instead, I simply navigated within the sequence to a few seconds past where the problematic frames seemed to be, all would be well (audio and video in sync). So, this means to me, that at the point where the problematic frames seem to be, Premiere has trouble interpreting them, and from that point on, the sequence is affected. If the seemingly problematic frames are skipped, then Premiere does not enter its bad state.
The next troubleshooting step was to start afresh, and see if the problem existed prior to making any edits to the sequence (i.e. steps 1-3 above). The problem still existed.
The next troubleshooting step was to see if a media player exhibited the same behavior as Premiere. So I took the same vobs and viewed them with Windows Media Player 11. There was no problem viewing the exact same vob in Media Player 11 that essentially is not viewable in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1. Hmm.
The next troubleshooting step was to see if an encoding program would exhibit the same behavior as Premiere. I imported the same vobs into TmpEnc, and when viewing them, no problems were exhibited.
Although not conclusive, it appears that there is a bug in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1.
Another problem that I noticed with vobs, is that sometimes, Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 does not recognize the proper frame rate of a standard DVD vob file, e.g. given 5 vobs that comprise a single movie, the first vob is shown as simply a video file (i.e. no audio at all) @ 29.97 fps in the Project panel, but the subsequent 4 vobs are recognized correctly as having both audio and video @ 23.976 fps. As before, I validated that the apparently problematic vob (from the Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 point of view) renders/plays perfectly fine in other applications (i.e. no audio or video problems). I attempted to use 'Interpret Footage' to rectify the problem with the vob, and when I type in 23.976 fps, it takes it, but then displays in the Project panel as 23.98 fps. It didn't fix the problem, but I was wondering if diplaying 23.976 as 23.98 (as opposed to 23.976 which is shown for the non-problematic vobs) is another problem.
Thanks much for any and all help,
Matt
My system specs, if needed:
OS - Vista Ultimate SP2, x64, fully updated
CPU - Xeon e5440 x 2
RAM - 16 Gb
Master Collection CS4 with all updates installed

Welcome to the forum.
Now, you have several problems, but most are with your choice of equipment and your workflow, not your choice of an NLE.
I took a wedding video from 1990 on a VCR tape and turned it to digital via a Dazzle hardware unit that plugs into the computer. It gives me vob files with no menus or anything like that
Few people have ever been able to get a Dazzle to work. This is true, even with the Pinnacle software, that often comes with it. It is an AVID product now, as they bought Pinnacle, and if you can get it to work at all, you are ahead of 99% of all owners. Stop by the Pinnacle fora and type in Dazzle. You will get the idea quickly.
A far better workflow would be to use a VHS player, hooked to an A-D device, like the Canopus/Grass Valley 110, or their 300. Use the Edius software that comes with it, to Capture DV-AVI Type II files w/ 48KHz 16-bit Audio. There will be zero OOS issues.
Most other equipment and workflows are kludges and seldom work at any level.
A good workman does not blame his tools. He might blame his choice of tools, but not the tools. Unfortunately, you chose a piece of hardware that doesn't usually work with the included software, and are blaming a great NLE program, because you are trying to work with horribly bad footage.
Please do yourself a favor. Donate the Dazzle to Goodwill, and look at the Canopus/Grass Valley 110. The price differential is not that great, and you will keep all of your hair.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS just did 34 VHS tapes via the above suggestions (some LP and some EP), and got many hours of usable footage. Not one glitch. No OOS. Every file edited perfectly in PrPro and I delivered 15 DVD-5's, that the client loved. I paid for a Canopus 300 with just my time on one project.
PPS, please see my post #5 for a link to an article on VOB files.
Message was edited by: the_wine_snob Added PPS

Adding a RAID card to help speed up export (and other drive question) in Premiere Pro CC

First of all, I have read Tweakers Page exporting section because that is where my primary concern is. First my questions, then background and my current and proposed configurations:
Question 1: Will adding a hardware RAID controller, such as an LSI MegaRAID remove enough burden from the CPU managing parity on my software RAID 5 that the CPU will jump for joy and export faster?
Question 2: If true to above, then compare thoughts on adding more smaller SSDs for either a one volume RAID 0 or smaller two volume RAID 0 to complement existing HDD RAID 5. That is, I'm thinking of buying four Samsung 850 Pro 128 GB SSDs to put in a four disk volume to handle everything (media/projects, media cache, previews, exports), or split it up into two volumes of two disks each and split the duties, or keep the four disk volume idea and put the previews & exports on my HDD RAID 5 array.
The 850's are rated at SEQ read/write: 550/470 MB/s thus I could get around 2000/1500 MB/s read write in a four disk RAID 0 or 1/2 that if I split into two volumes to minimize volumes from reading/writing at the same time, if that really matters with these SSDs?
The Tweaker's page made a few comments. One is splitting duties among different disks, rather than a large efficient RAID may actually slow things down. Since the SSDs are much faster than a single HDD, I'm thinking that is no longer accurate, thus I'm leaning toward the Four disk configuration putting OS & Programs on C drive, Media & Projects on D (HDD RAID 5), Pagefile & Media Cache on SSD (2-disk RAID 0) and Previews &Exports on 2nd SSD RAID 0 (or combine the two RAID 0's and their duties).
Just trying to get a perspective here, since I haven't purchased anything yet. Any experience/stories, I would appreciate.
My current drive configuration:
My D drive is software RAID 5 consisting of four 1 TB Western Digital RE4 (RED) 7200 RPM HDDs with a CrystalDiskMark SEQ Read/Write of 339/252 MB/s.
The C drive is SSD 500 GB (Samsung 840 (not Pro) and does 531/330 MB/s. My OS, Program Files and Page File are on C, and data/media files/project, etc all are on the RAID drive.
Problem:
Current setup allows for smooth editing, only the exporting seems slow, often taking between two and two and a half times the video length to export. Thus a 10 minute video takes 20-30 minutes to export. 15 minute video can take 30-40 minutes to export. The first 10% of the two-pass export takes under a minute (seems fast), but it gets slower where the final 10 or 20% can hang for many minutes like my system is running out of steam. So where is the waste?
I have enabled hardware acceleration (did the GPU hack since my GPU isn't listed) and it may spike at 25% usage a few times and eat up 600 MB of VRAM (I have 2 GB of VRAM), otherwise it is idle the whole export. The CPU may spike at 50% but it doesn't seem overly busy either.
Our timeline is simple with two video streams and two audio streams (a little music and mostly voice) with simple transitions (jump cuts or cross dissolves). We sometimes fast color correct, so that might use the GPU? Also, since we film in 1080 60P and export 1080 29.97 frames/sec, I think that is scaling and uses the GPU. I know without the GPU, it does take a lot longer. I have ruled out buying a faster GPU since it doesn't appear to be breaking a sweat. I just need to know if my system is bottlenecked at the hard drive level because I'm using software RAID and my disks are slow and will hardware RAID significantly reduce the CPU load so it can export faster.
Our files are not huge in nature. Most our clips are several MBs each. Total project files are between 5 GBs and 10 GBs for each video with Windows Media File export being 500 MB to 1.2 GB on average. We shoot using Panasonic camcorders so the original files are AVCHD, I believe (.MTS files?).
Considerations:
1. I'm thinking of buying (and future proofing) an LSI Logic MegaRAID 9361-8i that is 12Gb/s SAS and SATA (because some current SSDs can exceed the 6Gb/s standard).
2. I'm not replacing my current RAID 5 HDDs because not in my budget to upgrade to 6 or more large SSDs. These drives are more important to me for temporary storage because I remove the files once backed up. I don't mind a few inexpensive smaller SSDs if they can make a significant difference for editing and exporting.
I can only guess my HDD RAID is slow but the CPU is burdened with parity. I would imagine running RAID 10 would not help much.
My setup:
my setup:
CPU - i7-3930K CPU @4.5 GHz
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3 2133 @2000
Motherboard - ASUS P9X79 WS LGA 2011
GPU - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB (performed the compatibility list hack to enable hardware acceleration).
C drive - 500 GB Samsung 840 SSD (Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and programs).
D drive - four 1 TB WD RE4 Enterprise HDDs 7200 RPMs in software RAID 5
Case - Cooler Master HAF X
CPU Fan - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO with 120 mm fan
Power Supply - Corsair Pro Series AX 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold
Optical Drive - Pioneer BDR - 208DBK
thanks in advance,
Eric

........software RAID 5 off the motherboard ??????......NOT a good idea, from what I have read here on this forum from experts like Harm Millard and others. They have mentioned a LARGE overhead on the CPU doing this....causing sub-par performance. RAID 0 off the motherboard will NOT do this, however.....RAID 0 would provide optimum speed, but, with the risk of total data loss if ANY drive fails. You may wish to reconfigure your RAID to be RAID 0...BUT...you would need to DILIGENTLY back up its entire volume onto perhaps a quality 4TB drive very frequently.
A lot depends on the nature of your current and FUTURE codecs you plan to edit. You may not want to sink a lot of money into an older setup that may have trouble with more demanding future codecs. For now, in the 1080p realm, your rig should be OK....the read/write performance on your CURRENT RAID 5 setup is not great, and a definite drag on the performance. The rest of your components appear to be fine.....the Samsung SSD, though not ideal, is OK.....it's write speed is WAY lower than the Pro model,but, the drive is used mainly for reading operations. Since you have Windows 7 Pro, and NOT Windows 8.......you CAN put the entire windows page file onto the RAID 0 you might create.....this will take that frequent read/write load OFF the SSD. Read the "tweakers Page" to see how to best TUNE your machine. To use your current setup most efficiently, without investing much money, you would :a. create the RAID 0 off the motherboard, ( putting all media and project files on it ) b. install a quality 7200rpm 4TB HDD to serve as a BACKUP of the RAID array. Then, install a Crucial M550 256GB or larger SSD, ( close in performance to Samsung 850 Pro...much cheaper), to put all previews, cache , and media cache files on....AND to use as " global performance cache" for After Effects...if you use that program. Exporting can be done to ANOTHER Crucial M550 for best speed...or, just to the either the FIRST Crucial or, the 4TB drive. Your current GPU will accelerate exports on any video containing scaling and any GPU accelerated effects. Your CPU is STILL important in SERVING the data to and from the GPU AND for decoding and encoding non-GPU handled video....your high CPU clock speed helps performance there ! You may want to check out possibly overclocking your video card, using MSI Afterburner.or, similar free program. Increasing the "memory clock speed" can RAISE performance and cut export times on GPU effects loaded timelines,or, scaling operations. On my laptop, I export 25% faster doing this. With my NEW i7 4700 HQ laptop, I export in the range of your CURRENT machine....about 2 to 3 times the length of the original video. PROPERLY SET UP...your desktop machine should BLOW THIS AWAY !!
Visit the PPBM7 website and test your current setup to possibly identify current bottlenecks,or, performance issues. THEN, RE-TEST it again, after making improvements to your machine to see how it does. Be aware that new codecs are coming (H.265 and HEVC,etc.) which may demand more computer horsepower to edit, as they are even MORE compressed and engineered for "streaming" high quality at a lower bandwidth on the internet. The new Haswell E...with its quad-channel memory, 8 core option, large number of PCI gen. 3 lanes, goes farther in being prepared for 4K and more. Testing by Eric Bowen has shown the newer PPro versions provide MUCH better processing of 4K than older versions.

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