Question on unplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account ????
Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1) What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2) How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3) Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4) DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddy
in standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
and as u said u dont want to have tax calulated on the unplanned delivery cost then i suggest u to post it as subsequent debit and there do not make use of the claulate tax option or do the direct posting for the g/l account option
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Question on uplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account
Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1) What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2) How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3) Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4) DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita ReddyHi,
1. If you eant ot post to a differnet GL account the GL tab is there.. there you have to mention the Gl account.. like Fb50.
2. When you put some amount in unplanend delivery cost ..
a. If material is Moving average price then the amount will be debited to inventory account
b. If material is in standard price then it eill go to price differnece account.
3. frieght vendor , discount why not u calculate through pricing schema in PO and after that in MIRP for firght vendor u will have different option..Just check with MM guys..
4.answered in point 1.
Hope it will helps ..
Assign point if helpful
regards
PK -
Post unplanned delivery cost to different freight G/L Accounts
Hi,
Regarding the freight costs the business process is at the time Purchase Order creation, the company does not know what is the freight costs that is going to be charged by the vendor. The freight charges will be known when the vendor sends the Invoice. The purchase order contains the materials to be drop shipped by vendor directly to customer or cross dock delivery to company premises.
The business requirement is when the MIRO invoice is posted, user will enter the freight charges at the document header level and that value needs to be split among the PO Line items and needs to be posted to separate Freight Cost G/L Accounts based on the account assignment category. For drop ship items the freight cost to be posted to one G/L Account and for cross dock items it needs to be posted to a different G/L Account. Later on this freight cost to be applied to customer invoice for charging the customer with the vendor freight cost.
The solution option we have considered is to define two statistical freight condition types at PO Level (one to be triggered for Drop ship materials and the other to be for Cross dock items), in the pricing procedure assign two different Account keys to these condition types. At MIRO users enters the freight cost as unplanned delivery cost, write the code in a user exit to split this value among the freight line items of the MIRO invoice. As separate Account keys are assigned to the condition types the values can be posted to separate G/Ls. To bring these values to customer invoice we will develop a custom routine in SD pricing procedure.
Request the experts to let me know if there is any simple way to map this requirement.
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GLN.Hi,
As at the time of the PO you do not know the freight costs and you want to post the freight costs in the MIRO as unplanned delivery costs . and there is no way you have to post as unplanned .
Here your requirements are 1. Post to separate GL accounts and 2. distribution among line items .
However both of your requirements are given with sap standard functionality with the below sap link .
Logistics Invoice Verification (MM-IV-LIV) - SAP Library
check spro--mm--liv--incoming invoice ---configure how unplanned delivery costs are treated .
at the same time when you maintain the condition type for frieght iN PO , they will become the planned delivery costs . if this come in to picture FR/IR account will come into the pictute at GR and IR .
i think your requirement will be partially met . and the coding part may become fuzzy rather to go with the standard.
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Hi,
We have a problem of capturing unplanned delivery cost to material
The scenario is as follows
We are not sure of few conditional value's during Purchase Order creation.
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I am working in SAP system 4.0B.
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This should happen when they are doing the invoice, through MRHR.
I though that this is possible and I have customised the following:
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But, when I am posting a new invoice, the unplanned delivery costs are still going to the old G/L account.
Could you let me know what is wrong here? Or if I need to do something else? or, if with this version of SAP I cannot assign the unplanned delivery costs to a new G/L account?
Makes me feel concern where the customising said "2 - Different G/L line" and not "2 - Different G/L account".
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[Unplanned Delivery Costs|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a8/b99f58452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]: -
Unplanned delivery costs were not agreed on in the purchase order and are not entered until the invoice is received.
You can enter the unplanned delivery costs in the invoice document alongside the costs incurred. You can post unplanned delivery costs as follows:
- Distribute them prorated to calculated invoice items
- Post them to separate G/L accounts
Function: -
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Our main vendor is a ERS vendor and freight vendor is without ERS.
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We are selecting "Planned delivery cost" option in MIRO.
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To post the unplanned delivery costs to the Item you have to define how it should be apportioned to the invoiced items.( under Logistics Invoice Verification )
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G/L Account for Unplanned Delivery cost.
Hi,
I have a requirement to distribute the Unplanned Delivery cost to different G/L accounts based on the material type of the item.
Is there any User exit or standard setting to solve this.
Thanks & regards,
MaruthuHi
Unplanned delivery costs can be trigerred by customizing the the account assignemnts in OBYC under UPD transaction key.
For trigerring different G/L accounts based on the Material type, use Enhancement LMR1M002- customer exit EXIT_SAPLKONT_011.
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You need to take help of ABAPErs for the same
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the screen shot i sent is also of 4.7E
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Edited by: Kunal Ingale on May 19, 2010 6:18 AM -
Report for Unplanned Delivery costs
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SivaI am afraid that in Std any report exist.
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