Question on upgrading to tiger

Im going to upgrade from panther to tiger and I'm trying to find out what version of iTunes comes with tiger 10.4.3,(im thinking 6.0.1), Im running panther 10.3.9 now and have installed the update of iTunes to 6.0.2 will this downgrade of iTunes from tiger affect anything or somehow mess things up? Or should i go back to iTunes 6.0.1 before upgrading to tiger? Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

Hi Gary;
I am running iTunes 6.0.2 on my 10.4.4 system right now. I don't think you are going to have a problem there.
Allan

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Getting a larger hard drive...and want to upgrade to Tiger...help!

Hello everyone!
I have a dualie MDD with the stock 60 gig hard drive that I want to upgrade. I'd like a 200 or 250 gig hard drive.
Once I have the new hard drive installed, I'd like to upgrade to Tiger. But I'm lost as to how this process works. I know I'd need to clone my current OS, but then how do I clone it to the new drive once it's installed?
Would I:
1) Back my system up onto CD/DVDs/external drive/whatever
2) Create clone of system using CCC or Disk Utilities
3) Install new drive??
4) ???
5) Upgrade to Tiger??
I'm not sure if two drives running so close to each other inside the hard drive cage is a wise move considering how hot the inside of an MDD gets, so I may remove the 60 once everything is up and running.
So how do I go about this the right way? Detailed instructions would be very appreciated. Thank you!

Hi, Pat!
First of all, get the new drive and install it. (Insure you buy an ATA drive and not a SATA drive.) If you need any assistance with installing, configuring, or initializing the drive, please post back.
In the interim, check for updates to your third-party apps to make sure that they will all be up-to-date and Tiger-compatible. Download a free copy of Superduper! or CarbonCopyCloner to later clone your startup drive. You can also use Disk Utility's Restore option for cloning, if you'd rather do so.
Next, you have a decision to make about the Tiger install. You can either upgrade it from Panther on your current drive, or do a fresh install of Tiger and use the Setup Assistant to incorporate your data from the Panther volume. I prefer and would recommend the latter as a much "cleaner" way of upgrading, leaving less "baggage" from the older OS. I would install Tiger directly to the new drive, which precludes the immediate need to clone anything while still leaving the original startup drive and system intact. If you'd rather do the upgrade install, then you should clone the Panther volume to the new drive, check the clone to insure it's okay, and install Tiger over Panther onto one drive or the other.
After installing Tiger, doing the software updates, moving your user files, apps etc. to the Tiger volume, you can run and test it for a week or so to insure all is well and that you have everything you need from the Panther drive. Once you're satisfied, you can then either retain the Panther volume as-is, using it as an alternate startup drive, or (preferably) you can instead erase it, zero it, and clone a copy of your Tiger volume to it as a backup and alternate startup drive.
Feel free to post back with any questions or concerns and one or more of the members will gladly address them.
Gary
1GHz DP G4 Quicksilver 2002, 400MHz B&W rev.2 G3, Mac SE30 Mac OS X (10.4.5) 5G iPod, Epson 2200 & R300 & LW Select 360 Printers, Epson 3200 Scanner

I bought the wrong upgrade to Tiger disk

Recently I bought an iMac Mac OS Install 2 Disk set (gray color) with the following detail: Mac OS version 10.4.7, ANT Version 3A112, Disc Version, 1.0, #2Z691-5883-A. My iMac accepted the disk but when I tried to install the Tiger package it displayed a panic notice saying it was looking for a PowerPC disc 8.1 and would go no further. Obviously I made a boo boo here. What disk should I buy to upgrade to Tiger from 10.3.9, please? What kind of Mac would run the disk I wrongly bought?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Jennell answered your question correctly.
The gray disks you have are OEM disks for another model. You need the full retail install disk.. You don't need to buy it from Apple but it does need to be either boxed as shown or have the Tiger "X" on the disk. As shown here.
OS X 10.5 Leopard is about to be released, so you may want to wait.
-mj
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Can I upgrade to Tiger on my iBook G4 with a PowerMac G4 Install Disk?

I am currently running Mac OSX 10.3.9 Panther on my iBook G4 and I want to upgrade to Tiger OSX 10.4. I could possibly upgrade to Leopard, but it may be too much for my system according to Apple's website.
My father purchased a used copy of Mac OS 10.4 Tiger from eBay and the person told him that it was an original base version of Tiger and would run on any Mac. But when the disk arrived it says that it is for a "PowerMac G4 Software Install and Restore Disk 1 of 1". So I am not sure if this is only designed for the PowerMac desktop computer, or if it can be used safely and 100% compatible on my iBook G4 laptop.
I took my laptop to the Apple Store and asked the Genius Bar techs who told me that the "firmware" is different on the PowerMac than on my iBook and the disk that I was sent was only for the PowerMac.
When I read the "read-me" file on the disk, it did not indicate that it was only for a PowerMac only or whether it would work fine on any Mac computer or laptop. So my main question is this: Will this disk work and be compatible with my iBook G4, or was it designed only for the PowerMac?
Has anyone had any problems with compatibility on an iBook if they used a different computer's OSX 10.4 Tiger install disk?
If there are problems, where can I find a generic in-the-box version of Tiger or an iBook specific version of Tiger?
If I install a "used" original version of Tiger am I still eligible for all of the software updates from Apple for OSX 10.4, just like I have been with my current OSX 10.3 Panther?
Thank you for your help!

Aaron:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Computer specific install disks are optimized for the computer to which they are specific and even if you manage to install it without incident, you may end up having issues post installation.
To install Tiger your computer will need to meet the minimum system requirements for Tiger.
You will need to purchase the Full Retail version of Tiger.
Tiger can be purchased from the Apple Store or, on CDs, from AllMac or FastMac. You can also purchase Tiger on eBay if you know what you are looking for. Read all documentation carefully, ask questions of the seller to be sure that you are getting the Full Retail Version. Here are some current offerings on eBay.
Good luck.
cornelius

Upgrade to Tiger 10.4.6

Hi,
I have a Power Mac G4 1.25 DP (FW 800), 2GB RAM running OS X 10.3.9
Recently I've been having issues with the spinning death wheel displaying all the time. I've posted elsewhere & its been suggested that bad sectors are to blame (from the sound of the HD seeking in a 'loop')
Last time I tried to boot up, for some reason it's trying to boot in classic (9.2) ?? However it's just erroring and saying 'can't boot Classic from that location' or something along those lines (sorry, at work right now, not in front of Mac) ?
It's been so frustrating recently I'm ready to do a complete fresh install and see if that helps at all.
2 things....!
1)
While I'm sorting this out, I also want to upgrade to tiger 10.4.6
2)
I bought this Mac 2nd hand & it wasn't sold to me with any of the software disks.
So, exactly what do I need to purchase in order to sucessfully upgrade and perform disk maintenance (diskutil booted from startup CD\DVD so i can 'Repair Disk')
I went to the Apple store on Regents St to purchase 10.4.6 DVD but they said 'thats just an OS and won't help you' which left me slightly confused. If I buy this, surely I can perform a brand new install \ start diskutil from the DVD??
They mentioned contacting Apple Care with my serial number & they would send me replacement disks. However, I can't even get onto the machine any more to retrieve this info!!
I just want to buy what I need to upgrade and safeguard any future issues. Please advise...!
Cheers
Dylan
Apple Power Macintosh G4 1.25 DP (FW 800) Mac OS X (10.3.9)

You cannot install a new system or even reinstall the old one until you repair or replace your hard drive. If you try upgrading on a bad hard drive you'll end up no better off than you are now.
The phone number for AppleCare in the UK is (44) 0870 876 0753. Your serial number can be found on the computer.
If the hard drive has bad sectors and no other physical problem you may be able to restore its use by reformatting as follows:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disk. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. After the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process will take 30 minutes to an hour or more depending upon the drive size.
You will of course need a bootable OS X Installer Disc to do this, and it will only be successful if the drive is otherwise OK.
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Upgrading from Tiger to SL or ML

Hello all!
I have an old aluminium body MBP 17" Intel Core2Duo 2.4 GHZ with 2 GB of Ram.
It has a 160 GB drive and is a 3,1 model bought around august / sept. 2007.
Call me slow but I haven't upgraded my OS since I bought the machine. I'm still running Tiger (10.4.11) and since I'm going to upgrade my RAM to 4 GB and
harddrive (to 540 GB), I figured I'm also going to upgrade my OS.
As you can imagine having a machine this old, there's a lot of stuff on it I'd hate to loose. So I've
deviced a plan for upgrading my MBP.
It goes like this:
1. Back up my internal drive with Carbon Copy Cloner.
2. Install Snow Leopard on an external drive.
3. Replace the internal drive with the external one.
4. Put the old internal drive into the harddrive dock.
5. Migrate all my files from the now external drive to the new internal one.
Question is, will this work? Is it a fail proof way of doing it?
(The reason I'm upgrading to SL and not Lion is because Mountain Lion is coming out and I'm just going to install that on top of SL instead of going via Lion).
Thanks!

Hi!
Just wanted to say I've successfully upgraded from Tiger (10.4.11) to Mountain Lion (10.8) without problems!
So here's what I did: first I backed up my entire system using Carbon Copy. I did this on two different external drives (you can never be safe enough!). Made sure both booted nicely. Then I downloaded Mountain Lion and installed it onto an external drive 2.5" drive. I booted up to ML and it worked OK. I then swapped the external 2.5" drive with ML on it for my old Tiger 2.5" drive (this took some time but Ifixit had a great "how-to" guide.
Now I'm in the process of copying important files, documents and music while also having to re-download a lot of my old software (since none of them work properly in Mountain Lion). Oh well, that's the price to pay for not upgrading sooner!
Btw - maybe it's the wrong thread to ask in but I had a lot of stickies in Tiger (which I used everyday almost) - and I tried to copy the stickiesdatabase file over to ML but none of my Stickies show up?? I know ML wants us to use Notes instead of Stickies but since Stickies DO come with Mountain Lion, I wonder why I can't find the Stickiesdatabase file in Mountain Lion??
P.S - Have no idea why my username on this forum changed. Oh well.

Do I need to backup my files when upgrading from tiger to leopard?

Not sure if I need to backup all my files before upgrading from Tiger to Leopard (to use a Mac Box Set), have bought a Seagate 1TB FreeAgent GoFlex Home hard drive to back up on. Was told I wouldn't need a WiFi router but have now discovered I would need a dual Ethernet port to be connected to the internet and the hard drive which my Mac mini only has access for one, either the internet or the hard drive. So I ask do I really need to back up before upgrading? or can you get dual Ethernet ports?

Only if your data has any value to you.
If everything works perfectly, you should lose nothing.
If anything goes wrong, it is possible to lose data.
Personally I don't want to trust my data to everything working perfectly so I back it up.
As to the question of dual ethernet ports, you don't need them actually. If you create a LAN with a router then the multiple ports on your router will allow you to connect to both the internet and disk at once.
Allam

Will an upgrade from Tiger 10.4.11 to Snow Leopard make me loose programs?

I have an old 2007 Macbook pro and I need to upgrade from Tiger OS 10.4.11 to either leopard of Snow leopard because my charger broke and the new charger does not work probably in the older laptops unless you firmare update (which I cannot do as my OS is less than 10.5)
My question is: Will upgrading wipe all the files and programs from my laptop? I have programs that I no longer have the discs, to install them with, for so if they get wiped I will be unable to get them back and they are programs I need on a daily basis. I was just wondering what upgrading from tiger to leopard will actually involve? Will I loose all files/programs so it would be like starting from scratch with a new computer? Or would it not change these things?

Buy an external drive (or two).
Clone your system before you begin.
Repair the drive while at it, Apple First Aid and another 3rd party program.
Make sure you can boot from your backup clone.
Apple Restore is part of Disk Utilty or there is SuperDuper, or Carbon Copy Cloner.
Me, I would take the above precautions. Then I would format your drive with SL DVD, and perform and clean install. Do all the updates. Then use Setup or Migration Assistant.
Look for threads, there seems to be 4-5 a week at least on Migrating, going from 10.4 or from PPC to 10.6.
That is the safest. In theory, and YMMV, you could try upgrade in place, but not without backups, and repairing your drive with SL DVD first.

Will upgrading from Tiger 10.4.11 to Snow Leopard delete programs?

Sorry if this is a stupid question or answered a million times before, but will upgrading from Tiger 10.4.11 to Snow Leopard stop my existing programs (PhotoShop, Office etc) from running? I've got an Intel MacBook but I've never installed a new OS myself, so any tips gratefully received! Thank you.

You will lose the ability to work in any Classic OS applications that ran under system 9.
If I were you, before upgrading do yourself a favor and purchase an external hard drive that you can "clone" your Mac to. If possible, a large enough drive that you can have 2 partitions. In one you would clone your current system and apps. Then after the upgrade, clone again your updated system to the other partition as a emergency backup.
With the clone of your current set up, if need be you can rebbot to it so that you can use any of your "old" applications.

Upgrading to Tiger, Logic Pro, Soundtrack Pro, Etc

Hi,
Between me and Santa, it's been a really great Mac Christmas but I have some questions that I couldn't really find exact answers for by searching the forums.
I'm currently running OS 10.3.9 with Logic Express, Garageband (original) and Soundtrack (original). I'm about to upgrade to Tiger and have iLife 05 (with Garageband 2) here with upgrades to both Logic & Soundtrack Pro on the way.
I've decided to do an erase and install when I upgrade to Tiger just to wipe the slate clean (too many tried and abandoned freewares and demos!), but I'm a little confused about the best way to install all the new audio apps:
1) Since I'm UPGRADING to Logic Pro and Soundtrack Pro, is it necessary for me to have Logic Express and the original Soundtrack installed before installing the upgrades, or will these install fine just by referencing my original activation codes or whatever?
2) Would you recommend that I install Garageband 2 from the iLife 05 disc? I know there's a lot of redundancy, but it seems some posts here implied having GB2 installed was necessary for LP to work to its fullest (EXS instruments, Jam Packs etc)...I'm hoping I won't need to install GB2.
3) Since STP comes with many of the same effects & loops as LP, is there anything I should consider doing to streamline the install or save disc space and avoid too much duplication?
4) I'm sure I'll need to install the latest Pro Application Support releases. Should I do that after installing LP & STP or before? Does it matter?
5) Finally, and I suppose this might be more appropriate on a different forum, but while I have you here: this G5 is my main computer for my .Mac account (we have a few other Macs in the house). Do I need to take any steps like deauthorizing or anything to make the transition smooth?
Thanks for any help, suggestions or recommendations! Looking forward to finally being current....
~Knight Berman (presto211)

Thanks again, Justin. Had some issues...after installing Logic and moving on to the Content disc, the Installer for the Logic Pro Bonus Sounds kept quitting each time I tried to run it. Updated Logic to 7.1.1 and it was able to install, but it took about an hour. When I tried to drag the tutorial folder to my hard drive, it said it would take approximately 33 hours to copy the 500MB file! Weird.
Also, before updating to 7.1.1, I tried launching Logic and it held for over an hour while Scanning Audio Units on: (19/21) AuAudioFilePlayer. Did a Force Quit on the Auval(?), which was not responding, and Logic opened fine, and has since. Don't know if this might not bode well for the future though.
Biggest Problem: Looking at the Loop Browser, I'm only seeing Garageband Loops from the drop-down menu. With Express, I could see other Sub-Groups besides GB Loops. I've installed Soundtrack Pro, and I know it's missing those as well because the "Vocal" tab is greyed out and, being sure there are some vocal loops in STP, I dragged the HD/Library/Audio/Apple Loops/Apple Loops for Soundtrack Pro onto the Loop Browser and it seems to have indexed them as at least now the "Vocal" tab has loops in it.
However, I'm still not seeing "Soundtrack Pro Loops" or anything new in the drop-down menu - which was always handy to access specific loop sets such as ones I installed on my own. I'm just worried that I'm not getting access to the Loops that came with Logic Pro! Any thoughts?
Thanks so much for your help ~Knight (presto211)

Upgrade to Tiger. DV device not recognized.

I recently upgraded to Tiger and lost the ability for FCP Express (FCP-X)HD to read my DV device (Sony GV-D300 NTSC). I also notice my Sony is no longer on the list of acceptable devices, though it worked before (when I had Panther). I have had lots of problems with Tiger (like my server no longer works either and I can no longer backup anything).
The Sony works on iMovie HD, but on FCP-X I get "unable to locate the following external devices Apple firewire NTSC (720x 480)." When I hit continue it will not recognize the device. Do i throw away my $1000 Sony? Only import on imovie?
I have done the preference thing, opened it up in another login, tried on my camcorder also (Panasonic PV DV100D) which also worked before, done the video output refresh, none worked or helped.
All work on iMovie, but not on FCP-X. Any ideas?
Thank you.
(i wanted to post this as a question in "won't recognize camcorder" but it won't allow me to post a new question???)

Similar problem. Newly upgraded FCE 3.0 won't recognise DV firewire device and quits on capture. I spoke to Apple'Care' - my Sony DSR-11 deck is "not on the list" and, ergo, it is simply my fault for not having checked the fineprint first - end of story. Thanks for nothing eh?
http://images.apple.com/finalcutexpress/pdf/FinalCutExpress3.0_Qualified20051028.pdf
An attempt to upgrade to FCE 3.0.1 met with the message "not required" . I have QT 7.0.3 and I have deleted the additional QT receipts as suggested - no better. My deck works fine with iMovie HD - Apple'Care' said that's because the drivers and compatibilities are quite different from FCE. Does this all ring true? If so, I guess I'm off to the January Sales for a new camcorder from the rather abbreviated shortlist of supported PAL devices.

I am upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard. I keep getting an error when I try to load the Mac Os x update combined. It says that it was corrupted during download. Have try loading from Apple website V10.6.7 upgrade combined but it still won't do it?

I have an Intel Desktop iMac and I am upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard. I keep getting an error when it tries to load the Mac OS X update combined. It says that it was corrupted during download. Have try loading from Apple website Mac OS X V10.6.7 upgrade combined but it still won't do it? Any other suggestions. The printer is not working either - I am not sure if they are connected. Everything else is fine.

Please excuse, but I have to ask an obvious question: Did you already update using the Snow Leopard Retail install DVD? (You must do this first; 10.6.7 is just an update if you already have 10.6.) Are you, then, trying to update from whatever version was on the install DVD to 10.6.7?
Otherwise, I'd keep trying. The 10.6.7 Combo is a huge update.

Mac os 9.1 upgrade to tiger - im sure there are postings i will search for

im sure there is some documentation on this issue i will try to search for it in the mean time i thought it would be reasonable to post my issue as an alternate source of aid,
imac with proper system requirements to upgrade to tiger, i never did and upgrade to os x and i unfortunately didnt read or do research prior to installing, when i put the tiger disc in i followed the instructions and restarted, prior to installing anything the os x cd stated that i need to upgrade my firmware then promted me to restart again, upon restart i got blank screen and now the imac power button lights up however the hard drive kicks in then powers down and the mac wont boot, beep, or display any screen images whatsoever, prior to install/upgrade attempt the imac was having trouble with holding the date and time settings, im not sure if that is related to the now non-booting/blank screen issue, i have read a rew articles on the firmware/tiger upgrade issue, i was wondering if there are any fixes or repairs for this issue, any questions please ask ill give you what information i can, thanks
kwin

Hi, denderah -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
The Disuccsions forum software somteimes (for unknown reasons) mangles a posted link to another forum page. Here's a repaired link to the page eww referred to -
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=607420
Re the changing date & time, that is a clear indication that the internal battery in your iMac needs to be replaced. That battery, which is used to maintain PRAM and clockchip settings, will wear out over time - the expected life is only about 4 to 5 years. Leaving the iMac unplugged regularly (such as on weekends or overnight) will shorten its life considerably.
For some models of iMacs, the early ones I believe, replacing the battery is not an intended user-level thing to do; on those it is a good idea to take it to an AASP to have it done.

Upgrading to Tiger using an external DVD Drive

Our computers at work don't have internal DVD drives. When we try to install Tiger using an external DVD we can't get past the restart process. We insert the DVD into the external DVD drive and restart our computers. Once the computer restarts, we double-click the Tiger DVD and it once again tells us to restart. My questions is....Can you upgrade to Tiger using an external DVD drive or should I request the CDs from Apple for the upgrade?
Thanks,
Devra
Power PC G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi Devra,
first of all: WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSIONS!
Be aware that you CANNOT boot from an external USB-drive: Don't start up from an external USB device. You have to use an external firewire drive. Then insert the DVD and reboot while holding down the Option-key. Select the DVD in the external firewire drive as boot volume.
You also might want to follow this procedure: 10.4 Tiger Upgrade: Decision tree+Checklist . It also covers potential install errors due to outdated firewire-drive firmware.
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Upgrade to Tiger, Safari won't work... Help.!!!

I just upgraded to Tiger from Panther. Safari no longer works... I am not computer savvy and I can't figure out what to do. I know it is not my connection because I.E. is working fine,, although a few sites said I was Forbidden. What?? Please Help! I am running on an imac G5.

Lily's Mom:
Questions:
1. Do you have internet apps SpeedDownload, iGetter, PithHelmet, Acid Search, Safari Enhancer ? Or Norton or Virex? Sometimes non-apple internet apps need updating or uninstalling. If you do, let us know which ones and which version, please.
2. Do you have one of the new iMac Intel Duo's?
In the meanwhile, do these, OK?
Have you done these?
1. Empty your cache & History settings via the Safari menu
2. Trash your Icons Folder:
HD>Users>Home>YourName>Library>Safari -->Icons
Restart Safari and a new folder will be automatically regenerated.
(This folder saves favicons of all the sites you visit. Needs cleaning periodically -- or you can change that file's preferences to "Read Only"
rather than "Read & Write." This will keep it from growing in size.)
3. Launch Font Book and check all fonts for duplicates. A duplicated font will have a bullet beside the font family and you can resolve duplicates by selecting the font and at the menu bar, go to Edit > Resolve Duplicates.
Do this for each font with a bullet next to it.
If you're still having problems:
4. Shut down your computer . . . unplug the computer, modem, and router, if you have one. Let everything sit for 2-3 minutes. Plug everything back in, start up your modem & router, then restart your computer.
Hope this helps

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