Question sur Camera Raw

Je n'arrive plus à ouvrir les fichiers ARW dans PE "impossible d'ouvrir....car ce type de fichier est incorrect". J'ai téléchargé la version 6.5 de Camera Raw sur le site d'Adobe mais il semble que pour mon Sony Alpha 57 c'est la version 6.7 qu'il faut. J'ai acheté PE 10 il y a 1 an une centaine d'€, faut il que je rachète une mise à jour ? Cela m'embêterait.
Merci de votre aide

J'ai essayé d'installer manuellement la version 6.7 et voici le message d'erreur :

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My questions regards Camera Raw

I am posting this to both the PhotoShop and Lightroom forums. I use PhotoShop CS4 and Lightroom 1.1 on a Windows XP OS.
My question regards Camera Raw.
Question 1: If I open a RAW file in PhotoShop will the properties remain if I later open it in Lightroom, and vise-versa. Previously I had used Canon’s DPP and once I opened files in PhotoShop it was at square one. I concluded this was due to different manufacturers. I can adjust to that. Now that I am staying with just Adobe products I want to make sure I don’t have to do everything twice.
Question 2: Using Bridge I have opened some jpg’s in Camera Raw and manipulated them. It seemed to work better if I clicked “Done” rather than Save Image (if I need to save it in another directory).
Question 3: If I am working in PhotoShop and would either like to open a Raw file or manipulate a jpg in Camera Raw, is it possible to open Camera Raw without having to use Bridge?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.

rollsnut wrote:
I am posting this to both the PhotoShop and Lightroom forums.
You would have been better off asking on the Camera Raw Forum, not Photoshop (since you posted it only to the Windows side).
As for your questions, you can indeed coordinate settings to and from Camera Raw and Lightroom but it's a matter of understanding how metadata editing works...In Camera Raw/Bridge, settings are saved in the file or in a side car file...in Lightroom settings are saved in the Lightroom catalog database, not the file or side car UNLESS you specifically instruct Lightroom to read or write the settings to or from the file.
So, what Camera Raw does to a file will need to be read FROM the file inside of Lightroom. Just make no mistake that once the image in actually processed and opened inside of Photoshop, it's no longer a raw file but a processed file and anything you do to it afterwards in Photoshop will not be in the original raw file.
The other questions aren't really Lightroom questions and would be better of posted in the Camera Raw forum...

Two questions about Camera Raw and Lightroom

I am now shooting in RAW image format only and cataloging those images into Lightroom.
My first question is: How do I open an image in Camera Raw from Lightroom? When I right click on an image in Lightroom it gives me a choice to edit in > Photoshop, but does not offer the choice of editing in Camera Raw. In fact, when I go outside of Lightroom and just double-click on one of those RAW images, it opens in Photoshop. What is going on? Before I installed Lightroom, double-clicking on a RAW file would cause it to open in Camera RAW.
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does. Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom? I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Pleas set me straight on this.
Thank You,
Ken

Your second question:
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does.
Answers your first. Lightroom and ACR share code, so the rendering you get from Lightroom with the same settings is exactly the same as in ACR. What happens is that when you say "edit in Photoshop", ACR gets called by Lightroom and the Develop settings get passed along. ACR then renders the RAW with those settings and opens it in Photoshop. So, because you already have a working interface to the settings, there is no point in showing them to you again.
Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom?
That depends on your workflow. I no longer open any images in ACR directly as Lightroom provides a more effective interface in my opinion. Other people I'm sure prefer the Bridge/ACR approach.
I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Lightroom does not modify the sidecars by default. All edits are stored in the database. This allows you to have virtual copies with different Develop settings and more tricks like that. You can have Lightroom write out xmp sidecars by choosing "save metadata to file" from the metadata menu in Library or by turning on automatic xmp file generation in preferences. There is usually no real point to doing that however as the "edit in Photoshop" route works just fine. It's only really useful when you have a mixed workflow that still uses Bridge. If you share images with others, you're better off exporting dngs, or exporting subsets of images as catalogs with the images included.

Question. Camera Raw 6.1

Having problems with the adjustment brush in 6.1 it just doesnt seem to respond at all all the other functions seem to work and have tried reloading the june 2010 version and it still does not work, not sure if this problem started after I put the new version of Lightroom on, as I seem to remember it working before when I opened a file from bridge into cs5.
Did lightroom also open a file into camera raw when you went edit in photoshop, my memory is hazy on this but I seem to remember this happening, have I changed a setting and if so where can I find it to change it back.

Ok I feel really stupid just noticed I had the density right down , so anyone with this problem check this first.

Question about camera raw. Need to edit Canon 60D Raw files in CS5.

I downloaded the program camera raw. folder could not find the installer program. I do not know how to install the camera raw.in the past with these programs had no problems. what version of the program is suitable for Photoshop cs5 and camera canon 60d?

canon eos 60D needs cr 6.2 or better.
ps cs5 can be updated to 6.7 so you should be ok.
the best way to update is to click help>update in photoshop.

I have a question about Camera Raw plug in list Nikon D750

My new camera Nikon D750 is not listed in the Camera Raw plug in List. Does this mean that photoshop does not support these NEF files?

It's included in the 8.7 RC
Technology pages:
CC - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw8-7-cc/
CS6 - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw8-7/
Download pages:
CC - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/cameraraw8-7-cc.html
CS6 - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/cameraraw8-7.html

Information in Histogram in Adobe Camera RAW

Since I capture my images in RAW, when I open them in Adobe Camera RAW (via Elements 11), what information is displayed in the image and the histogram I see?
Is it showing me the jpeg created in the camera? If so, the jpeg settings in my camera are not only important in viewing the LCD and the histogram in my camera at the time of capture. They would also be important in viewing my image when it first opens in Adobe Camera RAW.
Thanks for some input.
Mary Lou

I have an answer to this question supplied to me from a forum on www.luminous-landscape.com. It is as follows:
Re: Understanding Camera RAW article
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 05:20:22 PM »
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Quote from: mlfrost on September 30, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
Perhaps you can answer a related question on Camera RAW. When I open an image captured in RAW format, I see an image and histogram in Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that the opening image and histogram are created from the camera's jpeg settings?
No...Camera Raw rips the entire raw image and does a demosaic and application of ACR defaults to generate the preview and the histogram (which is displaying the resulting graph based on the output color space set in ACR Workflow Options). ACR doesn't use ANY settings from the camera's JPEG settings and the only thing that ACR uses from the raw file is white balance info and the ISO metadata...

QQ about Camera Raw Cache and why mine is empty

Quick question about Camera Raw Cache:
Mine is empty. Always.
I've read that the Develop module stores information on photos it opens in the Camera Raw Cache, while the Library module stores its previews in the LRDATA directory adjacent to the Lightroom Catalog. I've also read that the former can be stored anywhere and is limited to a size specified in Preferences, while the latter must accompany the Catalog file and has no cap on its size.
So why is my Camera Raw Cache always empty? I go in and out of the Develop module, edit, switch among photos within Develop, view images at 1:1 and larger within Develop, etc. Shouldn't that cause cache entries to be generated in the Camera Raw Cache? I've tried moving my Camera Raw Cache from within Preferences, and I have the size of the cache set to 30 GB with plenty of room on the drive, but it's still always empty.

Ah, yes. I shoot only JPGs. Funny how none of the documentation or tutorials mention that. The ones I've seen all imply that Lightroom uses Raw format internally when editing photos and that's why it needs a Camera Raw Cache for holding those internal files in the Develop module. I thought whenever I opened a photo in Develop, Lightroom was converting my JPGs interally to a proprietary Camera Raw format for editing them. Guess not, then.
So where does Lightroom hold all of its internal files for JPGs that I'm editing in the Develop module? Does it use the same files it generates in the Library module for 1:1 previews? (That's so different from what the tutorials say -- for example, around 11:00 on Julieanne Kost's tutorial on optimizing Lightroom, she never says she's only talking about working with Raw format.)

I can't open canon .CR2 files in Adope camera raw in CS3

When i want to open my .CR2 file from my Canon camera 40D into bridge or photoshop CS3 it does not open it and it can't recognize the file in some way. My computer is working with windows vista. I really need help as i dont know why it is not doing it. Thanks

Bruce Pollock wrote:
Distilling the Tech Note down, essentially you can't open .CR2 files in CS3. I think CS4 is the first version that has .CR2 compatibility. One option that doesn't involve upgrading to CS4 is to download the free Adobe DNG converter and convert your .CR2 files to .dng. Then you can open them in CS3.
No, that isn't right. The Canon 40D was supported in at least the last version of Camera Raw for CS3. There are a few things you need to verify.
1. In Photoshop, go to Help/About Plug-Ins and click on Camera Raw in the list. It will tell you what version you have installed. You should have Camera Raw 4.6 listed, and it should only be listed once. If there are additional listings then you have a problem. Camera Raw will now work.
2. Get the download instructions from the Adobe download website and make sure Camera Raw is installed in the right folder. It must be that specific folder, and there can be no other versions of Camera Raw in the Adobe file structure.
3. Are you able to see your raw images in Bridge? If not, then there is something wrong with your installation.
Check these things out and make sure everything is set up properly. Then maybe we can help you further.

Camera raw photoshop 7.1

Bonjour, j'ai été obligé de formater mon disque dur donc obligé de réinstaller photoshop 7.1 et bien sur camera raw a disparu. Quelqu'un a t'il ce cette version ou une solution? merci d'avance.

J'ai un nikon D200 et j'ai pas la possibilité pour l'instant d'acheter Lightroom; J'utilise le logiciel "Faststone Image Viewer mais ce n'est pas pratique.
Adode n'a plus cette version en téléchargement c'est pourquoi je cherche ailleurs.

Perte du grain en passant de Camera Raw a CS3

Bonjour,
Quand je devellope un RAW via le Camera Raw du CS3 version 4,6, je perd le grain créé sur le RAW. Je suis en Grayscale.
Mon image a du grain sur Camera RAW et en l'ouvrant sur CS3, le grain n'apparait pas et elle est plus floue avec un manque flagrant de résolution.
Je suis bien en 8 bits, (je ne sais pas si ça joue). D'habitude je n'ai aucun probleme.
J'espere que quelqu'un pourra m'aider, je suis bien bloqué !!!
merci a tous. vincent

Bonjour,
Bien sur le mode 8 Bits peut jouer, je vous conseille de passer en mode maximum supporte par la carte graphique (Le top serait 32 Bits)
Veillez egalement a monter la resolution des couleurs (Le mode 256 couleurs peut parfois poser ce genre de soucis)
En bref, faites un maximum de test en montant les performances graphiques de l'ordinateur au maximum, une mise a jour des drivers pourrait egalement etre utile.
Si cela marchait tres bien auparavant, il va falloir savoir ce qui a pu causer ce probleme : mise a jours systeme, le fichier RAW provient-il toujours de la meme source qu'avant, le logiciel a-t-il ete mis a jour, ...
Voici toujours un petit lien utile pour les conflits de fichiers RAW et de metadata :
- http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/400/kb400991.html
A l'aide de quel logiciel CS3 rouvrez-vous ce fichier par la suite ? (Ce probleme apparait souvent sous Lightroom apparement)
Courage ;0

+++ Adobe Camera Raw - Frequently Asked Questions +++

Q: Is my camera supported by Adobe Camera Raw (ACR)?
A: Here is the list of cameras officially supported by the current version of Adobe Camera Raw and Digital Negative (DNG) converter. The page also provides links to the current version of ACR and DNG converter for both Mac and Windows.
Q: what version of Camera Raw should I install?
A: Photoshop CS6: see first question.
Photoshop CS5: Camera Raw 6.7 Win | Mac
Photoshop CS 4: Camera Raw 5.7 Win | Mac
Photoshop CS 3: Camera Raw 4.6 Win | Mac
Photoshop CS 2: Camera Raw 3.7 Win | Mac
Photoshop CS: Camera Raw 2.4 Win | Mac
For Photoshop Elements, Windows:
Photoshop Elements 10: (See first question)
Photoshop Elements 9: Camera Raw 6.5
Photoshop Elements 8: Camera Raw 6.2
Photoshop Elements 7 and 6: Camera Raw 5.6
Photoshop Elements 5: Camera Raw 4.6
Photoshop Elements 4: Camera Raw 3.7
Photoshop Elements 3: Camera Raw 3.6
For Photoshop Elements, Macintosh:
Photoshop Elements 10: (See first question)
Photoshop Elements 9: Camera Raw 6.5
Photoshop Elements 8: Camera Raw 6.2
Photoshop Elements 6: Camera Raw 5.6
Photoshop Elements 4.0.1: Camera Raw 4.6 ( 4.1 under Mac OS 10.3)
Photoshop Elements 3: Camera Raw 3.6
Q: What version of Camera Raw started to support my camera?
A: This page: http://www.adobe.com/go/kb407111 lists when support for the raw files of your camera was added in Camera Raw. If the version listed is higher than the one supported by your version of Camera Raw, you first need to convert the files to DNG using the latest version of the DNG converter in order to open them in Camera Raw.
Q: I do not have the latest version of Photoshop, how can I open the Raw files from my new camera?
A: Only the current version of Photoshop will receive ACR updates that add support for the latest cameras. However, you can download the latest version of the DNG converter, and use it to transform your raw files to the universal DNG format. Camera Raw 2.4 in Photoshop CS and all newer versions of Camera Raw compatible with your version of Photoshop will be able to open the DNG files. Photoshop 7 and ACR 1.0 do not support DNG, therefore you will need to upgrade to the latest version of Photoshop.
Q: When will the new update of Adobe Camera Raw be released?
A: Adobe cannot comment on unannounced products, however, it is expected that ACR and DNG converter will be simultaneously updated 3 or 4 times per year (i.e. every 3 or 4 months).
Q: What does "Unofficial Support" for a camera mean?
A: Unofficial support means that Adobe's Quality Engineering department has not tested the support to the degree that they want, and thus cannot guarantee the results. So we don't include the camera in our official lists, and don't provide any technical support. Unofficial support means "use at your own risk".
Q: How do I know that Adobe Camera Raw is installed correctly?
A: For Photoshop CS customers, the most efficient way to ensure that you have the latest Camera Raw update installed correctly is to choose the Updates option from the help menu. For Photoshop Elements customers the best way to verify that the Camera Raw plug-in is installed correctly is to make sure it appears (only once) in the "About Plug-in" menu (see: Photoshop menu on a Mac or Help menu on a PC). The correct version is displayed when you pick its name and see its about box. If "Camera Raw" is not in this list, you have not installed it correctly.
Q: Why is the profile listed in the Calibration tab showing a version of Adobe Camera Raw that's older than I am using ?
A: What you are seeing is normal, and is due to the fact that the built-in profile for your particular camera model hasn't changed between that version of Adobe Camera Raw and the version you're using now. If you see the profile listed as "beta" then your camera has only unofficial support.
Q: Why is there more than one profile listed in the Calibration tab of Adobe Camera Raw?
A: The built-in profile for your particular camera model has changed since it was first supported. The profile shown by default identifies the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw in which the profile was updated. Other profiles in the drop-down list identify those included with earlier versions of Adobe Camera Raw, and are available in case you want to maintain compatibility with earlier versions.
Q: My camera is listed, but Photoshop cannot read its raw files.
A: Download and install the most recent update to Adobe Camera Raw.
Q: Where can I download the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw?
A: Adobe Camera Raw for: Macintosh and Windows
Q: I am trying to replace my existing ACR plug-in with a more recent version, but cannot find ACR in my Photoshop/Plug-in/File Formats folder. Where is it located now?
A: As explained in the "Readme", which can be found on the ACR download page, the correct location is:
Photoshop CS2
Mac: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/CS2/File Formats/
Win: \Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-ins\CS2\File Formats\
Photoshop CS3
Mac: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/CS3/File Formats/
Win: \Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-ins\CS3\File Formats\
Note that "Common Files" is localized in non-english versions of Windows.
Q: Why do I only see a small generic icon in Adobe Bridge instead of a thumbnail when I browse the folder containing my RAW files?
A: Bridge occasionally has difficulty with RAW files, but this is usually because the user has installed ACR into the wrong location or browsed the folder prior to installing the ACR plug-in that provides support for their particular camera model. The fix for this issue is usually to make absolutely sure that ACR is installed correctly, then purge the Bridge cache. If you're in the habit of using the Distributed cache (Bridge 1.x) it would be prudent to manually delete the cache files from the folder containing your RAW files.
Q: Whenever I open an image in Adobe Camera Raw a small explanation mark within a yellow triangle appears in the upper right hand corner of the image.
A: This symbol indicates that a high quality preview is being generated by Adobe Camera Raw. It should disappear after a couple of seconds.
Q: How do I turn off Auto Adjustments in Adobe Camera Raw 3.x?
A: Open Adobe Camera Raw. On the Mac press Cmd+U or on the PC Ctrl+U. This keystroke combination toggles Auto Adjustments On and Off. Alternatively, disable the Auto Adjustments setting from the fly-out menu adjacent to the Setting drop-down menu. If you want the default to be Off for Auto Adjustments simply choose "Save New Camera Raw Default" from the fly-out menu adjacent to the "Settings" drop-down menu then choose Done.
Q: What about Adobe Camera Raw 3.7 and newer versions?
A: Camera Raw 3.7 no longer supports per slider auto adjustments. One Auto control at the top of the panel now sets the Exposure, Shadows, Brightness, and Contrast sliders to their auto values. The Default control at the top of the panel sets these same four sliders to their default values. The keyboard shortcut for the Auto control is CMD/CTRL-U.
The keyboard shortcut for the Default control is CMD/CTRL-R.
Double clicking on a slider to set that single slider to its default value.
Shift double clicking on a slider to set that single slider to its auto value.
Q: Why do I get the the following message: "Unable to create an .xmp sidecar file. The image settings will instead be stored in the Adobe Camera Raw database."
A: This message means that Adobe Camera Raw is unable to write to the XMP sidecar file. Either the media is read-only (e.g. a CD), or you don't have write access to the folder containing the image, or the existing XMP sidecar file is locked.
Q: I cannot see all the tools and buttons of Adobe Camera Raw.
A: Set your monitor resolution to the minimum required for Photoshop CS and higher, i.e. 1024x768.
Q: Where can I obtain a listing of Adobe Camera Raw keyboard shortcuts and modifiers?
A: On the Photoshop online help file.
Q: When I open my Nikon NEF files, all I see is the simple version of the raw dialog.
A: You are running Nikon's plug-in, not Adobe's. Delete from Photoshop's plug-in folder and all subfolders all copies of the "Nikon NEF plugin". Nikon automatically installs this plug-in in up to two places inside Photoshop's plug-in folder, and both must be deleted. Otherwise it overrides the Adobe plug-in. An alternative to the deletion is adding ~ in front of the Nikon plug-ins names.
Q: I installed the update. I can now open my raw files, but I still cannot see thumbnails in the file browser.
A: Purge the file browser cache for the problem folder. Tools > Cache > Purge cache for this folder.
Q: Is it better to resize my images in Camera Raw, or in Photoshop?
A: The resampling code is fairly similar to (but not exactly the same as) the "Bicubic Sharper" resampling in Photoshop CS and CS2. It does not make very much difference which stage you do the resampling in. The exception is non-square pixel cameras (Nikon D1x and Fuji S2 Pro), for which it is best to upsample one size step in Camera Raw if you need a larger image.
Q: What are raw images, and how do they differ from JPEG ones?
A: Read this whitepaper (1MB PDF) written by Bruce Fraser for a concise answer.

You can check compatibility yourself:
1. Go to this page to see the different releases: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/311515?tstart=0
2. Navigate into the download link for the appropriate version of Camera Raw.
3. Follow the link to the ReadMe (e.g., http://www.adobe.com/special/photoshop/camera_raw/Camera_Raw_4.6_ReadMe.pdf).
4. Look to see whether your camera is supported.
5. If your camera is NOT supported, you can use the free Adobe DNG converter to create .dng files that your Camera Raw will be able to open.
Photoshop CS6 is anticipated to be out in a few months, and Camera Raw is supposed to have a whole new approach, so a lot of us are excited about anticipating that.
-Noel

Camera Raw Plug-in Question

First off, please excuse me if this is a stupid question. I'm still learning my way around CS5 and Lightroom so please bear with me. So when selecting any of the "Edit-In" options in Lightroom (as in Panorama, HDR in Photoshop etc) I get an error message that reads as follows:
"This version of Lightroom may require the Photoshop Camera Raw Plug-In version 6.4.1 for full compatibility"
However, everything is updated for Lightroom and CS5. My Camera Raw version is 6.4.1.145. I wasn't getting the error message before so I'm not sure what changed (I hadn't even closed the program when I started receiving the error message).
Do I just un-install and reinstall the Camera Raw Plug-In to fix? Any suggestions or insights? I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

Boilerplate-text:
Have you performed the usual trouble-shooting routines (trashing prefs by keeping command-alt-shift pressed while starting Photoshop, 3rd party plug-ins deactivation, system maintenance, font validation, etc.)?
Also there a Fora for those programs:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw
http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom

Would like to purchase PSE 12 to process Camera Raw files for the following cameras: Nikon D800, Nikon DF, Canon G9 and Pentax K-3 does the Raw Converter that comes with PSE 12 when purchased recognize the cameras listed in the question or do I need to

Would like to purchase PSE 12 to process Camera Raw files for the following cameras: Nikon D800, Nikon DF, Canon G9 and Pentax K-3 does the Raw Converter that comes with PSE 12 when purchased recognize the cameras listed in the question or do I need to download the camera Raw Version 8.3 ?

While the G9 RAW files can be read by Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom, these file are unsupported at this time. Here is a link to Adobe's latest list of cameras that are supported and this list came out yesterday http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html
I have not done a comparison between Lightroom and Canon's software but others have and say that Canon's software is clearly better. I am sure when Adobe updates their software again to include the G9 it will be a very good RAW converter as it is will most other cameras.

Camera Raw 5.7/Lightroom 2.7 question

Does Lightroom use the Camera Raw that's in Library>Application Support>Adobe>Plugins>CS4? What I mean is, is that one Camera Raw plugin used both by Photoshop CS4 and Lightroom 2.7, or does Lightroom install another copy somewhere else for its own use?

Thanks so much for your response. That's what I suspected, just wasn't sure. This query came about from installing ACR 5.7 which made Bridge CS4 lose it's preview capability when RAW files were imported. I switched back to ACR 5.6 which works fine, but I wasn't sure if the Lightroom 2.7 update got screwed up when I did that, which meant I'd lose the 5.7 conversion advantages when using Lightroom to convert my files. Sounds like I'm fine, thanks again!

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