Questions About "Usable" Flashed GFX Cards vs "True" Mac Designed  Ones

Hi guys I figured that this would be a good place to try and clarify my problem. I want to get a nice ATi card to upgrade my MMD G4. For the few games that I play the machine is showing its age and while yes I know a whole new computer would be the ideal choice it seems reasonable that going from the dinky stock 64MB card to a nice performance 256MB card would help a great deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-ATi-Radeon-9800-XT-256Mb-Video-Card-G4-4x-G5-AGPW0QQitemZ260267585968QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260267585968&_trkparms=72%3A392%7C3 9%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318
I see things on eBay like this often and several searches on this forum tell me only part of the story. It sounds like flashing these PC cards BOIS will give you a card that will function on the Mac system and give full support for the Core Image and Animation on the OS but it is not clear to me if a card like this would have full support in a game like World of Warcraft.
It something like this a safe buy to consider? Do any of you have one of these cards and could comment on it's performance? I would be ok dropping $150ish for a nice card but not one that just give me a boots to the graphics in the OS. It would need to work for the game as well.
Any direction is appreciated.
-Rich
Message was edited by: Ibilish

Hi-
Welcome to Discussions!
A flashed card, especially the ATI cards, simply is removing the Windows ROM and replacing with a full Mac ROM.
Geforce cards often require a modified ROM, because the ROM for Mac version Geforce cards is larger than the ROM chip on PC version cards.
Even with the reduced ROM, and especially with ATI cards, the flashed version becomes a Mac version. All features and functions are available, and full OS compatibility is present.
Of course, one of the main reasons for graphics upgrades is gaming. With flashed cards that have a direct Mac edition cousin, with very few exceptions, there is no difference to the game or OS regarding a "true mac version" and a flashed version. Function is identical. With ATI, the only exception is the X800, which functions normally, but only via the VGA port. There are some Geforce exceptions, with the 6200 being the most notable, having limits on OS support.
The linked card is a good performance choice. The linked cards seller is very reliable, and does an excellent job of prepping the cards. They work. Highly recommended.
One caveat of using flashed cards, though not a problem, is PC cards are all pretty much 8x AGP compatible, backwards compatible to 4x AGP. However, Apple created the ADC capable G4's by using then unused pins to power the ADC port. If an 8x card is installed without modification, the machine appears dead. Nothing will happen. the easiest, and least destructive work around is to tape the #3 and #11 pins on the card. Once done, a 4x AGP G4 will enjoy the power and performance of the new card with no ill effect.
How and Why to Disable Pins 3 and 11 on AGP 8x cards in your Power Mac G4

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