Questions about using Rescue and Recovery backup / Alternatives

I have used R&R, created DVD backup set, restored to a new HD.  All worked great.  Now a few months later I'd like to create another DVD BU set.  Apparently we can only create ONE R&R dvd?  It tells me I can continue to create the BU dvd set or cancel.  My son has an identical X61 tablet and he could not create R&R the first time on DVD.  I burned him a copy of mine and he was able to restore to his new HD.  So, why restrict to a single copy of a dvd which is easily duplicated?
Question:  Is the old R&R dvd compatable with new version of R&R (4.2x)?  Can I continue to use it with new dvd BU sets?
Second: has anyone found a good backup utility like Casper which allows complete HD BU to an external drive?  This is something I always did before the Lenovo, kept a spare HD to simply plug in in case the operating one failed, great BU.  Casper will NOT work with Vista and the X61.  Worked with them for several weeks, no progress.  Created some hard to remove problems as well.
Thanks!
I do weekly BU to an external TBHD using the Thinkvantage utility but my confidence is not complete.
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Message Edited by andyP on 10-08-2008 07:24 PM

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you can try acronis true image solution it will even back up the entire service partition for you!goodluck!
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    RNR was not supported on win8.  I would assume it is not supported on Win 10.Is your extenal backup location a USB-HDD or a Second hard drive?Refer to the following post to get security access to the RNR backup folder \RRbackups. After you get security access, you will be able to delete the folder. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/How-can-I-see-my-Rescue-Recovery-backup-files-on-a-USB-drive/m-p/986305/highlight/true#M21936 Additional folders on the USB-Hdd/Second HDD used by standalone (bootable) rnr:\boot\efi\preboot\tvtosfile bootmgrfile bootmgr.efi To be on the safe side, just delete \rrbackups and leave standalone RNR intact. 

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