Questions about "WRITE SAME failed. Manually zeroing."

Hi fellows,
I've already read this old thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164377
but I have further questions:
ok, WRITE SAME feature should enhances performance on supported hardware.
But when I get this error, I must manually ZEROING the parameter to disable it or the parameter is already ZEROED, since it failed?
and a second question:
I get this error on an USB device. In the aforementioned thread this error appears with SATA.
How can I disable permanently on an USB device, since address depends on the USB port which change?
thank you
Last edited by nTia89 (2015-01-06 09:59:31)

I have the same problem with kernel 3.19 (was not happening before) booting Archlinux from USB stick (Ventura ultra).
Plasma 5 start is now very slow. If I boot from another kernel (linux-rt) all is fine as it was before kernel 3.19 installation.
It seems to me that also X starting is too slow before sddm login screen.
Using nvidia 340xx drivers (updated).
Some suggestions?
Last edited by hifi25nl (2015-03-19 13:30:34)

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Hi all,
Since the last kernel upgrade on an headless server
[2013-04-04 09:56] upgraded linux (3.8.4-1 -> 3.8.5-1)
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3w-xxxx: scsi2: Unknown scsi opcode: 0x41
[ 4356.826902] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code
[ 4356.826905] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda]
[ 4356.826907] Result: hostbyte=0x04 driverbyte=0x00
[ 4356.826909] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] CDB:
[ 4356.826911] cdb[0]=0x41: 41 00 00 93 28 ee 00 00 08 00
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[ 4356.827002] sda3: WRITE SAME failed. Manually zeroing.
sda3 is an ext4 / partition, on a 3ware hardware controller (RAID1). The awful tw_cli tool says it's everything ok:
Unit UnitType Status %RCmpl %V/I/M Stripe Size(GB) Cache AVrfy
u0 RAID-1 OK - - - 69.2482 ON -
Port Status Unit Size Blocks Serial
p0 OK u0 69.25 GB 145226112 WD-WMANS1886705
p1 OK u0 69.25 GB 145226112 WD-WMANS1886623
I did not find relevant clues by googling.
Do any of you guys know whether this issue is harmful or can be ignored? Since otherwise everything seems fine...
Cheers,
domanov
code tags as opposed to quote tags please -- Inxsible
Last edited by Inxsible (2013-04-09 16:49:22)

alphaniner wrote:
Apparently, WRITE SAME is an optional drive feature that allows writing the same data to consecutive sectors of the drive. A search for "WRITE SAME 3ware" turned up an offsite (ie. not hosted by 3ware) 3ware manual that suggests it's only or primarily used during RAID initialization to speed things up.
WRITE SAME seems to be part of the "SMART Command Transport" feature set, so a good first step would be to make sure SMART is enabled on your drives.
Thanks alphaniner for pointing me there. This is the output of smartctl on one of the two disks in RAID1 (the other gave no error whatsoever):
[root@server ~]# smartctl --all -T permissive --device=3ware,0 /dev/twe0
smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.8.6-1-ARCH] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Raptor
Device Model: WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR5
Serial Number: WD-WMANS1886705
Firmware Version: 21.07QR5
User Capacity: 74,355,769,344 bytes [74.3 GB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA/ATAPI-7 published, ANSI INCITS 397-2005
Local Time is: Wed Apr 10 10:59:26 2013 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 2391) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 39) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 196 051 Pre-fail Always - 1
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 169 169 021 Pre-fail Always - 2566
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 040 Old_age Always - 67
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 199 199 140 Pre-fail Always - 13
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 200 200 051 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 045 045 000 Old_age Always - 40164
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 62
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 116 106 000 Old_age Always - 27
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 187 187 000 Old_age Always - 13
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 191 188 000 Old_age Always - 113
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 197 000 Old_age Always - 3
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 198 193 051 Old_age Offline - 60
SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 24 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.
Error 24 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 40148 hours (1672 days + 20 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART Offline or Self-test.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
40 51 40 df 87 c3 e0 Error: UNC 64 sectors at LBA = 0x00c387df = 12814303
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
25 00 40 c0 87 c3 41 00 2d+04:24:43.728 READ DMA EXT
25 00 40 80 87 c3 41 00 2d+04:24:43.728 READ DMA EXT
25 00 40 40 87 c3 41 00 2d+04:24:43.728 READ DMA EXT
25 00 40 00 87 c3 41 00 2d+04:24:43.728 READ DMA EXT
25 00 40 c0 86 c3 41 00 2d+04:24:43.728 READ DMA EXT
Error 23 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 40148 hours (1672 days + 20 hours)
All the five errors in the smart log are "only" UNC errors on read: if I understand correctly, googling around, this could be a bad cable connection rather than drive really failing (a couple days ago someone worked on the rack where this server is hosted...).
Anyway, the other drive seems fine and since this 2-disks raid1 unit is just the / partition (it's a plain arch installation, the server is a "number cruncher"; all actual data are in a separate 4-disks raid5 unit) I just backuped /etc for excess of zeal.
For now I think I'll wait for the weekend for running long smart tests/badblocks and such.
Any further hint or comment is still appreciated! Do you think it's time to replace the drive?
Thanks,
domanov

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Hello everyone!
Since the lasts kernels (I'm almost sure it happens since 3.9 because 3.8 worked fine) I can't boot on Archlinux anymore. This error floods my screen and I can't do anything, and because the new Archlinux iso (june 2013) comes with 3.9 kernel it now also happens during installation. Fortunately, I saved the may iso so I still can install archlinux and switch during install to LTS kernel but this is not a good solution. I can't find a solution online, some people have this issue but it seems to be a bit different everytime.
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Then, I checked in the kernel source of 3.9 and I think that this patch isn't implemented (there is no device_write_same_capable function for instance). But kernel patching is not a really good solution, if I have to patch my kernel everytime the main kernel is updated...
After some research, I found that my hardware RAID driver seems (I'm not sure) to be the kernel module "mpt2sas", so I checked both may and june isos of Archlinux and it's the same version (14.1) so it shouldn't be the problem.
Does somebody can help me on this issue ? I don't really know what to do now.
Thanks for reading, if I forgot something or if you want more informations, ask me!
Bye.
PS : My English isn't very good, sorry.
EDIT : I found a part of the solution ! It seems to be an issue with the kernel that doesn't detect properly if my disc is capable of doing WRITE SAME command.
So I have to write "0" in the file "max_write_same_blocks" under /sys. But the problem is that /sys is renewed every boot so I don't know how to make my changes permanent. I made a systemd service file, it almost works, but this solution isn't nice : the parameter is applied lately so errors shows at the beginning and this is not really easy to set up. I prefer a solution like "sysctl" but it seems that it only controls parameter under /proc/sys and not /sys, am I right ?
Moreover, I tried two other things : Ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.9.4 works and Archlinux iso with 3.8.10 has max_write_same_blocks > 0 and it also works... So I don't really understand this issue. Maybe in 3.8 the parameter max_write_same_blocks has no effect (or not the same as in 3.9) ?
Here is the systemd file that I made to reduce the issue :
[Unit]
Description=No WRITE SAME
After=local-fs.target
[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'echo 0 > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/host0/target0:1:0/0:1:0:0/scsi_disk/0:1:0:0/max_write_same_blocks'
RemainAfterExit=no
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
This is not a good solution, see my next post. I don't delete it in case you want to compare.
Last edited by rfnx (2013-06-02 15:26:50)

I found a solution to disable the WRITE SAME command. That doesn't answer all my questions but it solves my issue. I was looking for a file like "sysctl.conf" but for /sys parameters : you already can do that in Arch, just create a file that ends with ".conf" in tmpfiles.d and add one line per parameter you want to modify. This file will be loaded early at boot.
To disable it in an existing Archlinux installation, add in you file the line :
w /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/host0/target0:1:0/0:1:0:0/scsi_disk/0:1:0:0/max_write_same_blocks - - - - 0
Read the manpage of tmpfiles.d if you don't understand this line, it depends on your configuration and you can't copy it.
Then reboot and no more error !
If you want to disable it during the Arch install, just change directly the value you want in /sys. You have to do it at the beginning before mounting partitions, for instance just after choosing your keymap.
Bye.
Last edited by rfnx (2013-06-02 15:34:11)

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Post back if all this hasn't been as clear as mud and you need anything clarified.

A lot of questions about my MacBook Air

I am really new to re-using Apple computers.The last time I used an Apple computer was back in 1987 when the school and my family had Apple IIGS computers. I have been using PC's which reqiure Microsoft. I a lot of have questions (10 questions) about my MacBook Air and I hope you good people can and will help me.
Product: MacBook Air
Operating System: Mac OS X Version 10.7.4
1) I Downloaded MacKeeper because I was fooled. I had a bad feeling just before I Downloaded it and I should have listened to my heart. However, I didn't buy it or fully Install it. It was like a test run and then they wanted me to pay almost $100 for it. Thankfully, I didn't because I read it is Malware. I spoke with an Apple Tech at Apple Care and he helped me get rid of it (or so we think). I don't see it anymore on my computer. I read it can slow down your computer. How can you tell if it's really off of the computer?
2) When I open "Finder" and I see that there are people Sharing my computer with me. I went into AirDrop and it reads, "Other people can see your Mac as (my name) MacBook Air when their computer is nearby." I bought a HotSpot and while it's turned on and I selected it as my WI-FI connection I thought it would get rid of these people, protect what I type, me, my items, computer, etc. But it didn't.
I didn't know that I have to buy a exteral CD and/or DVD Player in order to connect to the brand new Modem and Router in one by NetGear. I am so used to PCs and the CD/DVD Players being built inside.
The people at Apple Store told me that there is an internal modem inside, but I don't know how to find it and what to do then. Should I use a Firewall?, An AntiVirus, AntiMalware, AntiSpyware, etc. Apple Care tech told me I don't need to get an AntiVirus.
3) Is there a new kind of Wireless Modem and Router that doesn't require a CD-ROM?
4) When I travel or fly and I am not close to home I was told by Best Buy and Sprint that I had to buy a mobile HotSpot to use the computer (WI-FI) safely. As I typed, I have one. But it's pretty expensive and only gives me 1 hour and 15 minutes per day to Stream. What can I do to use this computer safely Online when I am out of range from a Modem and Router? What do people do when they travel on airplanes?
5) This compter won't let me use "Raid." I think you have to have a newer version. I hard about Raid on the radio from Leo (can't recall his last name) who's a Tech expert.
6) Should I buy a ZipDrive? Apple Store Tech told me that I didn't need a ZipDrive. I just remember the episode of HBO's "Sex and The City" when Carrie looses everything because her copy crashed. Now, of course, I know that's a fictional show, but with PC's and Microsoft I have lost everything when it crashed, frooze up, etc. I know there's iClouds. I heard about Carbonite, but I have read the Pros and Cons about it. Mostly they are Cons about it. I just don't want to do anything wrong and mess up this computer.
7) Should I buy a new Printer/Copier/Scanner because mine is an HP. It's not new, but it works. I even have a CD-ROM for Macs. What about the new product called, "Neat"?
8) Is there a special product that I should buy to do Online Banking and/or other important stuff?
9) I saw and read about iWork in the Apps Store and it sounds cool. I still have alot of friends and colleagues who still use Microsoft. Is iWork good to use? Should I Download it from the Apple Apps Store or can a buy it at Apple? Is there another Word Processing Program that is great and user friendly and will work with Macs and PCs?
10) Should I Update the OS with OS X Mountian Lion Pro from the Apple Apps Store or buy it at Apple Store?
In advance, I wish to thank you in this Apple Support Communites for your help. Have a safe and happy holiday weekend!

1) Here are instructions for removing MacKeeper. Since it mostly consists of manually looking for folders and specific files, if you follow the instructions you either fail to find what you are told to find (because your AppleCare guide gave you complete instructions which you followed) or you'll find some additional files that need to be replaced.
2 & 3) I assume you are looking at the sidebar of a Finder window and seeing Shared and computers under it. Those are computers that you can potentionally share. To do so you'd need an account on their computer and a password. They are not sharing your computer.
AirDrop allows you to create an adhoc network for filesharing and it only functions when you have selected the AirDop item in the SideBar. Actually doing that merely announces to computers in the same network node that your computer is available for a file to be sent to. Even then you have to explicitly allow the file to be downloaded to your computer. Similarly you'd be able to see other computers with AirDrop selected and be able to send them a file - which they'd have to accept.
The only reason your NetGear Router comes with a CD is to install and run their 'easy' step by step configuration program. It can also be done manually with a browser. Read the manual to find the IP address you must enter to access the router's configuration menu. Apple's WiFi routers don't require a CD to install the software because the configuration software is already on your computer.
I do have my firewall turned on. AntiVirus software isn't a bad idea - I use Sophos having tested it for a review for our local User Group and I found I liked it better than ClamAVx which is what I'd been using before. Both are free.
4) I think you were scammed by Sprint and BestBuy. I use hotel, coffee shop, and restaurant WiFi spots and have for years. However, because they can be unsecured, I do not shop online or bank when I'm using them. I also use 1Password and don't reuse passwords so even if a sniffer should grab an account and password that's all it would get - one account.
5) Raid doesn't really make sense with a MacBook Air - a RAID involves 2 or more disks being used as if they were one.
6) Zip drive? No. External hard drive - yes. It isn't a question of if a computer's hard drive will malfunction, it is when. OWC has a nice selection of external drives and the Mac has a built in backup system called TimeMachine. Due to the way TimeMachine works, I've found that your TimeMachine drive should be at least twice as large - and preferably 3-4 times as large as the data you are backing up.
7) if your printer works and it has Mountain Lion drivers, why replace it?
8) Online banking is done with a browser - Use Safari or FireFox
9) If trading files with Windows users is important Mac: Office is your best bet. If not, iWork, Mac:Office, or LibreOffice are all good possibilities.
10) you can only buy Mt Lion via the App Store.

Shopping for a T61 - questions about the OS and various h/w options

Hi,
I am considering buying a Thinkpad T61, but it's been a while since I have bought a computer, let alone a laptop, so I thought I'd ask a few questions here.
I have worked on several Thinkpads T-series at work before, and I liked them, but they were all provided to me by my employers.
I am browsing the different models on the Lenovo Canada web site; the US site looks just the same.
The use I would make of the computer is typical office work (Word, Excel, e-mail), synchronize data with a PDA, Internet browsing, some limited web (PHP) and image editing (Paint shop pro), and listening to digital music. On occasion, watch a movie on DVD.
I don't play 3D games.
I would use the computer with a docking station and an external keyboard, LCD monitor and mouse when I am at home.
I am looking at the T61 models with 15-inch widescreen, integrated graphics and no mobile broadband.
1.) Operating system: obviously, Vista is recommended by Lenovo, but I have heard so many negative comments on this OS that I wonder if I shouldn't stick to XP. Even on this forum, I see posts about problems with Vista. Any advice on that?
2.) I already have a license for XP on my previous machine. Assuming I buy the Vista with this one, then I would legally have the right to install either system on it, right?
I know the machine doesn't come with an install CD, but if I get one somewhere else, would I be able to install it, or does the OS come with some weird DRM system that will prevent me from installing another OS than the exact copy of the one that was shipped with it?
I ask this because I'm fairly certain that I will want to change the way the system partitions are set up.
(this might sound like a silly question, but the acronym DRM became so prominent in recent years that I want to make sure)
3.) The website says that some T61 machines come with an integrated camera. Later on in the detailed descriptions, I don't see it mentioned anywhere. Which do and which don't come with the embedded web cam?
4.) 15.4 WXGA TFT vs. 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT : what are the resolutions of each?
5.) Hard drive: I would go with a 7200 rpm model. Is there any benefit to getting the 1GB drive cache?
6.) DVD recordable option: how fast does it record CDs and DVDs ?
Thank you in advance.
Chris.-

Hi Kevin
about the speakers I cannot advice.
Regarding the driver - if there is a driver update availabel from TOSHIBA (important!!) then use it! That means they have found some kind of bug in the original driver and released a fix for it. I do not recommend you to use the nVidia generic driver since it might make the PC behave bad. StandBy / Hibernation might stop working properly. Power consumption might go up....and so on.
Regarding the BIOS. The BIOS'es are a special chapter - when upgrading the BIOS the machine re-writes a very special part of the 'hardware' (actually it's a software installed in a chip that does not go away when you turn the computer off, it is sometimes also called firmware). That firmware is needed (among other things) to get the machine to start and load the operating system.
If the re-write process fails it could mean that the firmware is not able to start the machine anymore. And if the machine does not start at all, you will have no chance to retry writing the firmware. So that mean the machine will be dead and you will not be able to do anything about it except turning to an ASP and possibly pay for the service.
So, that said, it is very important that you have a realiable powersupply (which you normally have with the AC Adapter) and that you make 100% sure that you use the correct BIOS-file.
If you can accomplish those 2 small things there should be no problem upgrading the BIOS.
BR
Tom

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