Questions on DOT with 865PE Neo2

I did the "Load High Performance Defaults" for the first time.
Just wondering if everyone experiences the same results??
I have read many thread here on problems, but want to post some
positive results and in the same breath have some questions.
I have burnt in the system and done some SiSoftware Sandra benchmarking
with good results. Also used Performance Test 4.0 software that gave a
PassMark of 344.5 and MegaFlops of 1243.3 This is running in the "Load Bios Defaults". So no DOT!!
When I set the High Performance Defaults, I have to go back into Integrated Periphials/ On chip IDE config to set the ATA config again for my hard drive that is connected to channel one of the S-ATA. Everyone, the Quick User Guide is just that, a guide. Would someone kindly explain the settings?? 1st, Does it make a difference with the S-ATA only or S-ATA and P-ATA in the ATA configuration??
2nd question. Why is the S-ATA Keep Enabled and Combined Mode Operation a light blue/green color where the others are white?? I think I understand the difference in S-ATA and P-ATA. that is Serial- ATA and Parallel ATA. I am using the Maxtor Serial- ATA drive connected to channel one and I have a MSI cd writer connected to the secondary parellel conntroller. Future connection with a MSI DVD writer on the primary ATA controller.
So far I have not experienced any crash in the High Performance Defaults mode and ran the SiSoftware Sandra last night for about 1 hour.
In fact I just ran and compared the Performance Test 4.0 software again and compared with a test ran without the DOT. Guess what?? The DOT is noticeable lower results this morning... Why is that?? I thought the DOT and Hperthreading would increase performance?? PassMark is now 303.2 and MegaFlops is 227.2
I have noticed that the SiSoftware Sandra performance tips say the "mainboard temperature is too high" that is at 39 degress C. Processor is at 45C and case temp at 35C.. This sounds ok to me!! Any comments?
SiSoftware Sandra performance of Maxtor drive
Buffered Read : 108 MB/s
Sequential Read : 48 MB/s
Random Read : 7 MB/s
Buffered Write : 113 MB/s
Sequential Write : 47 MB/s
Random Write : 13 MB/s
Average Access Time : 8 ms (estimated)
Any comments would be appreciated!!
So far I have not any problems with this MSI board and Intel processor.
MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R Bios 1.3
2 X's Crucial 256MB PC3200
ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 64 MB
Maxtor 120 GIG S-ATA 8MB cache
Windows XP
MSI CD-R/RW 52-M
3 1/2 floppy drive
Antec Sonata Silent case 380 PSU
Hyperthreading is enabled
Logitech Duo Keyboard/Mouse
USR 56K MODEM

For SATA Only, SATA & PATA, PATA Only Qn, the answer is, there are differences in all these mode. 1st, if you switch to SATA only and PATA Keep Enabled to "NO", then you can only run SATA drives and no PATA drives. If you've switch to PATA and SATA, this will enabled you to run both types of drives in your system, but if you've encountered problems, then you may have to switched to SATA only and set PATA Keep Enabled to Yes. Hence for PATA Only, will means that this will enabled your system to support only PATA drives.
As for the coloring of the modes, I think that they are being purposely color coded for the ease of the user on the different options available.
D.O.T is supposed for you to adjust settings in a ranking order starting from Private status to General. Each has a certain increment percentage of the FSB starting from 3% to 10% Max. In your case, I don't think that you're o/cing through D.O.T yet, but having to run at high performance stablely is a good start.
HT- HyperThreading. This technology will virtually splits your current processor to run in Dual mode. As I've mentioned "Virtually", so it will only split your processor calculation and arthematics of your CPU into 2 so that each can process data transfer etc on its own and in turns giving more advantage to application and server like processing and not really in terms of gaming or other applications.
Hope all this helps.
All the Best... :D!!!

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[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DDR Memory with 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum

SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

Several issues questions with 865PE neo2 FIS2R

ok first off thanks to the people here, the sticky's are great and very informative.
although i do find the info outdated in that they all refer to old bios's. other than that this is a fantastic forum
ok so on with the questions.
im using a Silicon Image IDE U133 RAID controller (PCI CARD), , the ide hard drive(s) do NOT have to be in raid its just like a Promise card but its made by someone else.
ANYTIME i have ANY type of hard drive hooked up to that, the motherboard takes nearly 5 minutes to boot to the active hard drive. even if i select boot menu and then the RAID hard drives the SATA drives i mean.
my active hard drives are 2 Maxtor 160gig SATA drives in RAID0 mode.
if i have NO hard drives hooked to the controller card the system boots directly to the active boot hard drive. without dealy.
IF i have an ide hard drive set to boot off the SIL card, it takes just as long. which seems like ages.
anyone know of issues with this mobo and certain IDE hard drive controllers. (PCI)
i too am having blank sreen issues with my 9700 pro video card. but mine is nearly 2 out of 5 times i boot i have no video, and many times i am forced to reach around the pc case and unplug the power cord for a few minutes, in order to get the system to boot WITH video.
another issue that i have and this is the WORST.
nearly 90% of the time, the motherboard will NOT i repeat will NOT boot from a floppy or cdrom, all i get is the message on screen, if i am using a bootable floppy, like "Starting windows 98" or "Starting Windows ME" these are DOS boot disks made with windows XP.
i then get only a blinking curser. and nothing else.
OR
i get a blinking cursor and then i must wait 5-10 minutes before anything else happens. and even then usually the cdrom or floppy wont complete the booting process.
this happens regardless of if i have anything hooked to that IDE controller card.
i am now using the LATEST bios offered for this mobo and nothing has changed in fact ,,well according to the readme i was expecting to see some changes within the bios but i seee none. maybe i read the read me wrong. (say that 5 times fast)
i can NOT run the ram performance mode in anything other than slow. which is making me very angry.
i have infineon ram not sure what model but i will report back when i find out.
but i do recall sandra reporting it as supporting 2.5cas and other setting that appear to be FAST or TURBO and yet i cant use those in the bios otherwise my system reboots in windows or i get memory speed errors during post.
overall im VERY pleased with this mobo but am discouraged at the way its treating me.
i have a PentIV 3.0ghz HT which is a NON production model, it is a sample model with the multiplyer unlocked. i can go with a lower multiplyer but NOT a higher one, so i assume its unlocked but the CPU itself is limited to 15x multiplyer.
i have tried tons of configurations and can run very stable at 3.45ghz but i MUST make the dram 333 mhz not 400. then raise the FSB to around 225 or 230. but i still get serious power offs when doing any heavy work on the pc.
i have CPU voltages at 1.575 yet sandra reports it as 1.55
DRAM voltage at 2.7 ( i am using DDR400)
and AGP at 1.7
with this CPU what is a GOOD voltage to use.
is it ok to go higher than 2.7 with DDR400 ?
and AGP everything i have read said that 1.8v will fry the 9700 pro. is this true ?
sorry im asking alot of questions but if you can help me with any of them i would REALLY appreciate it, and i would pass along any info i learn.!

Well as Far as your PCI IDE Controller Questions are concerned, I would not know as I have never Used one , And with the Available Promise controller, you should Try using this instead......As Far as your Memory Voltage, You can Raise the Voltage above 2.7 Volts, But unless you are Really Overclocking the PBS or FSB as some call it, then 2.7 Volts is the "Norm" For this Board, But if you do NOT have High Performance RAM you should check with the Manufacturer, before you Go any Higher than 2.7 V, as far as the AGP Voltage is concerned, 1.6 Volts is the MAX that you should Have it set to with any of the new NVIDIA-FX or ATI-PRO, or XT Series Cards, Because as you know, the Cards that are 8X AGP Speed only Require .8Volts to begin with, and the ABP Voltage is Further Reduced by the Cards onboard Electronics, And if you have one of the High Performance Cards, well as you know, these get 90% of their Operating Power from the 4 Pin Molex PSU Connector. Any higher AGP Voltage then 1.6 Volts will only increase the Temps. of Both the Motherboards Chipset, and the VPU itself.................Sean REILLY875

Overheating problems with 865PE Neo2-S ( 6728 )

I have the same problem with my MB. When the CPU is idle it's temperature is 42 degrees C, but when it get's stressed up it growes up to 62 degrees C. THe heatsink is well in place, and has good contact with the CPU as well as the fan which is working correctly. Once the temp grew up to even 72 degrees but when I touched the heatsink it wasn't hot as I suspected. Also quite often a situation happens when the graphics in a game are starting to get " jumpy " which is followed by sound slowing and eventually the computer stalls, so I think that the overheating is real. I would really use some assistance.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the CPU, CPU cooler or not even the casing fans.
My system config is
Pentium 4 2.8GHz C Processor
MSI NEO2 865PE Mobo 512MB DDR333 Kingston (BIOS 1.1)
450W PSU w/4 Fans cooler system
ATI Hercules Radeon 9500 Pro
Iomega 48-24-48x CDRW
WD SATA 36GB HDD
WinXP Home SP1
SB Live
Creative 4400 Inspire 4.1 Speaker
When I boot up my PC, without running any application it is already 52 degree celsius. After running General 5 it goes to 60+ , Dark Age of Camelot (Graphics intensive) it goes to 70 degree (Sometimes it just reboot while i am playing this game). What is this? My casing has 4 fans and my system temp is only 37 degree celsius. How can my CPU temperature be so high when I didnt even overclock. So what could be the cause of the problem. Problematic Corecentre or MSI 865 PE NEO2 bug or whatever. I really regret choosing this Mobo over Gigabyte PE1000. FYI, my friend who fix the same system has the same problem as me. So it is impossible that all of us didnt fixed our CPU cooler properly.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Petej61
vcv
You should be fine running stock cooling (if you dont overclock) ...your problem is more likely to be airflow in and out of the case -to prove this try running with the side pannel/Casing off
If that works then you need to provide more airflow to the case not change your cpu cooler ...a bigger/more efficient CPU cooler will just increase you case temp unless you provide more airflow to the case
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Sound problems with 865PE NEO2

sorry i kinda quoted the wrong model number of my mainboard in the previous post. anyway,
Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz
2x 512 DDRAM (i have no idea what brand it's being encased and what speed)
Sapphire ATI RADEON x1650
1x 80gig seagate hd
seems that when i boot up, it shows the msi logo in off colour and dots and lines all over. is that normal? plus ive tried installing the sound driver but sound only comes out from one side. help anyone thanks in advance!

Quote from: shooyu on 08-September-07, 11:16:17
Psu details:
Brand : Topower
Model : EP-500W
200 - 240 ac
8/4 a
60/50 hz
provide amperes at each PSU rails, example in my signature.
"it's the sound that only comes on one side that's annoying. i tried installing all types of audio drivers. but sound just comes out of one speaker."
about sound have you tried with different speaker sets? have you checked mixer balancing options? also ensure that stereo jack is filled very well into sound card.(and not half plugged for example which will produce the same effect)
"he computer would just auto restart! what's happening?"
could be weak or failure PSU(provide details about it...), could be overheating issue...(check underload CPU temp...), could be a memory problem(test memory for error(s) with Memtest86 more details can be found here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=103598.msg760534#msg760534

Need help in installing a SATA hard drive with 865pe NEO2

Hello there
I need a help in installing a Sata hard drive ,it is WD 250 GB , my motherboard is 865PE Noe2 , the bios is the latest one
already I got another old hard drive ,not a Sata ,a regular IDE one installed as a master hard drive
I want to install the sata hd as a slave for the IDE hd for now to transfer the files and documents
I already physically installed the Sata hard drive yet the problem is that it was listed in the bios , I followed some of the steps here in the forum mentioned but all what I got is I found it listed as the fourth IDE master , not as the primary IDE slave
in Windows Xp Sp2 it is not listed of course in the windows explorer , but it is there in the device manager
look I am very confused and I tried most of the combinations in the ide configuration in BIOS
what should I do coz I am feeling so bad and stupid ,you can consider me a n00b in this hard drive thing

1st the sata drive cannot be listed as a slave drive to the ide master [key word=ide-can be configured as master OR slave, master IF only 1 hd, master and slave IF 2 hds], on the sata controler you can have master and slave, the ide cable has two connectors for the hds, sata has only 1 hd connector.
are you wanting to install the sata as primary master and move the operating sys to that drive, if so you will need an IMAGING software to move an operating system OR you could do a fresh operating system install to the sata drive then install your programs.

Will Twinmos twister pc4000 work with 865PE Neo2?

As the topic says; will theese modules work with my mobo? Ive searched the homepage and theese modules arent listed so im hoping for a fast reply here

I would Not Recomend that you Take the Chance on memory that is Not Listed on the Compatability Page ..And Certainly memory that is Rated at that high a Speed, and That is Not Cheap, if it was the Twinmos PC-3200, I would say chance it, But, I have Never seen that Memory in any of the Members Signatures, or never Heard of it Myself ..........Sean REILLY875

865PE Neo2-V problem/bad BIOS ver. 6.2

A new BIOS for the 865PE Neo2-V has been posted at http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=612&kind=1. This BIOS did not work for me and I had to revert to version 6.1. If you plan a BIOS update, make sure you keep your previous version handy!
Symptoms: after the flash, the system would not post. I had an 8-beep error code (video problems on AMI BIOS). Removing either or both video cards did not help, neither did the usual (re-set BIOS by jumper, remove battery, remove RAM, disconnect HDs, etc.) Using the recovery flash method (place BIOS file as AMIBOOT.ROM on a floppy) with version 6.2 resulted in the same issues. Recovery flash to version 6.1 and all worked fine again.
System specs (if more details are needed I can provide them, I'm not at the system in question right now).
865PE Neo2-V (MS-6788)
2x 512MB RAM (Corsair? I would need to dig for specifrics)
NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT in AGP slot
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 in PCI
(plus a bunch of HDs and USB devices, but this problem occured even with all this removed).

Quote from: crazy on 28-February-06, 08:36:40
I just want to ask one question: you said that after you flashed the bios to the 6.2 version, then it could not even boot. Thus could you tell me how could you flash the bios to 6.1 version?
There is a way to flash the BIOS even when the system won't boot. For AMI BIOS (as on this board):
1- Format a floppy, and copy the BIOS file to it.
2- Rename the BIOS file to AMIBOOT.ROM
3- Put floppy in the drive.
4- Power up system while holding CTRL-HOME
5- Wait until you hear floppy drive access, then you can release CTRL-HOME
6- When you hear 4 beeps, the BIOS had been flashed from the file on the floppy.
7- Power off, reset BIOS by jumper (just to be safe) and then power up again.

[Other 865 Series] MSI 865PE Neo2-V and Dual Channel Mode Question

Hello, I have a quick question regarding dual channel mode with my current motherboard. I have an MSI 865PE Neo2-V and am wondering if it is possible to enable dual channel mode while having three RAM modules inserted in the motherboard.
For example, I currently have one 512MB PC3200 module in my computer. If I purchase another 512MB module and run them in dual channel mode, will it be possible to buy a 1GB module or another size module, and still have all three slots run in dual channel mode? Or is dual channel only operational on this motherboard if only two of the three slots are occupied?
Thanks.

Dual channel requires an even number of sticks.

MSI 865pe neo2 problem with IDE2 slot

My MSI 865pe neo2 motherboard isn't recognizing any devices plugged into the IDE2 slot. I originally thought it may have been the cable (I used an old cable pulled from my P3), but even with a new IDE cable nothing gets recognized. Is there some trick I'm missing, or maybe is the slot broken? Would updating the BIOS do anything? Any help appreciated.
P4 2.4 800fsb
512mb ddr pc3200 (corsair valueselect ram)
msi fx5200 td128 video card

Thank you very much, that was it. I'm not very familiar with working with BIOS so I wouldn't have even known to look for that until you mentioned it, then I took a look in the bios section of the motherboard's manual, and saw it under the integrated peripherals section under On-Chip IDE Configuration. It was set on P-ATA + S-ATA, so I changed it to P-ATA Only and it worked like a charm.
One further question- if I later on buy a S-ATA hard drive, would I need to change this setting again? Would I have to give up the IDE2 slot to use an S-ATA connection?
Thanks again!
Josh

[865PE NEO2 PFISR] Won't boot with added memory

Recently I upgraded a few items on my PC which has been running fine for 18 months or so. I changed out the video card and bought double the memory of the same brand and type it had in it. I went from 1gig (2 sticks) and added two more sticks. But now it won't boot. The power is on but no output whatsoever.
I RMA'd the memory thinking that might be the problem but it's the same with the new set. I tried all sorts of memory/slot combos. Basically, the new memory works fine if you swap it out in bank A with the old stuff. That's how it's running right now, so I know all of the sticks are good. I can take a third and put it in either slot bank B and it'll boot, but obviously not run properly. But any combination of these four sticks and the system won't boot!
Please help!
I'm running this system:
Win XP (SP1 I believe)
865PE NEO2 PFISR
P4/3.0CGHz, 800M 478P/512K HT
DDR Corsair 512MB X4 (400)
Dual 80gb samsung HDs running SATA
Sapphire X800GTO 256M video card
Antec Sonata case
TruePower 380Watt ATX12V

What brand, model, and speed are the RAM sticks. Did you check your Test Report booklet which came with the mobo. If you can't find it, you can go to the MSI website and look for your MOBO and get the test report that way. Some brands/models will that have been tested are shown in the report to be okay in all 4 slots, some only test okay in 2 or 3. Check this report and if it is one of the brands/model/speed tested you will see how it fared. It may well be you the MOBO doesn't like your RAM in 3 or 4 slots.
Maybe I missed it, but did you try each slot with only one stick at a time? You may also have a bad RAM slot.

865pe neo2-p Memory question

HI all
Hope someone can answer me a question
I have a 865pe noe2-p mobo , i have just stuck in x 4 1 gig ddr400 mem modules
The Specs of the board state as per MSI site that this board can support 4 gig , yet my bios is only reporting 3.1 gig
Mem modules are showing as dual channel in bios
Bios version is up to date ver 3.a , as per live update
CPU intell celeron 2.53 ghz clocked up to 2.92 ghz
4 gig Kingston DDR400 mem
Nvidea 6600
sata hdd's , 500 gig and 160 gig
is there something i am missing here to enable this board to see 4 gig of mem as per the specs of the board
I am only running XP and fully understand the SW limitation ,
I do not see this as being issue with SW , this seems to stem back to the board not picking the correct amount of ram installed
Has anybody else see this ?
Is there a resolve ?
Thanks in advance
Tadkin

Quote
is there something i am missing here to enable this board to see 4 gig of mem as per the specs of the board
I am only running XP and fully understand the SW limitation ,
I do not see this as being issue with SW , this seems to stem back to the board not picking the correct amount of ram installed
The software limitation you are talking about is only one side of the coin. The memory adress decode space of the chipsets memory controller is restricted to 32bit addressing before software (operating system) ever comes into play. Part of this adress space needs to be reserved for other system devices and cannot be used for system memory addressing. No mainboard featuring an Intel 865PE Chipset was ever (or will ever) be able to fully address 4GB of system memory. This is a chipset rather than a board or BIOS limitation. It is not even a problem but a hardware restriction that was only overcome severl chipset generations later (Intel P965 and 975X to be precise).

865PE Neo2-FIS2R, memory question!

Hi!
I´m thinking of buying memory for the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R mother board and have a few doubts that are on my mind.
1. If I want to use DualMode memory, should I use 256+256 or 512+512.
Lets assume that I buy 2x 256MB and uses them as DualMode.
Can I later put another 2 x 256MB into the computer and use them all as DualMode, (256+256+256+256) or is only possible to use 2 of each size.
Maybee I should buy 1x of 512MB and use it as SingeMode and later complement with another 512 and use them as DualMode.
hmmmmm.......any point of views?
The memory I´m talking about is:
Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 256Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
Corsair CMX512-3500C2 512Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
I assume that they are the same as MSI has in its
"DDR400 Memory Modules Qualified Vender List " and should work just fine with the motherboard.
Regards
WiGGoW

I would not go with that brand of ram. There are alot of issues being talked about involving that ram in this forum. I recommend Kingston and so does MSI. Keep in mind to obtain Ultr-Turbo in Bios you need to buy a latency of 2 or you will get an error message and your bios will reset to slow.

Any issues with Koolance CPU-200G on 865PE NEO2 FIS2R?

I'm thinking about getting a Koolance Exos and using the CPU-200G Block on my 865PE NEO2 FIS2R board. Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with this set up.
My problem is that I just upgraded from a 3 year old Presario that was actually very quiet (what did it have to cool? heh). And now my case has 5 80 MM fans running, a CNPS7000a-AlCu, plus PSU fans, GPU fan, NB fan... fans, fans, fans!!!! And the thing is so freaking loud.
Water-cooling looks like a good solution, but I don't know if
A) the block will fit on the board or
B) would I just be better off removing a couple fans.
Currently, everything is quite cool, I just want to kill the noise!
Thanks for any input or testimonials.

If you don't have any small kids or pets that might get in there, I would suggest removing ALL fan grills. Any time you make air change direction you increase noise. Furthermore with the case of fan grills you also increase air turbulence that disturbs the flow of air lowering cooling efficiency.
Ever listen to how quiet that 80mm fan is by itself when you put it to your ear? Why doesn't it sound like that in the case. The answer air that passes the grills and sharp edges of the computer case and inside makes noise as it hits the edges and surfaces. Eliminating as many of them as you can can aid in turbulence and temperature drop!
Not to mention the competition audio stuff in my thunderbird works great as insulation. Dynamat can kill most any sound, noise or vibration!
Lastly, bigger fans that spin lower RPM's are a key to eliminating sound. Same concept as the CNPS. A good flowing 2500RPM Sunon 80mm fan on your videocard would be just as effective and much quieter than the stock 5000+ RPM fan! You can reduce noise with less heat. I REALLY like the Zalman Heatpipe VGA cooler, but without a case with KILLER airflow, overclocking your card with one can be pretty unpredictable from machine to machine.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Question-boot from Promise IDE on 865PE Neo2 FIS2R

I bought my first MSI board a couple of years ago, an 865PE Neo2-LS. When I retired that, I went for an Abit 875P IC7-G. I just hated the Abit board, used it 3 months and replaced it with a new MSI 865PE Ne02 FIS2R.
I didn't reinstall WIndows XP Pro with the new motherboard. Everything seemed to be OK until I could get around to a clean install of XP. One reason I wanted the FIS2R model was that I wanted to use the faster Promise IDE connection for my boot drive. I had a heck of a time getting the drive to boot, but it finally worked. I was having a few problems that I thought a repair reinstall of XP might solve. So, I tried that yesterday.
Now I cannot get the same drive to boot from the Promise IDE controller. I saw that setting were changed in the BIOS and I can't figure out how to set them so I can boot from the C: drive on the Promise. It will boot fine from the regular primary IDE controller, but I want to use that for two other hard drives I use for storage. The secondary IDE connection is for a CDRW and DVDRW drives.
I've looked at the FAQs and read the manuals. How do I just use the IDE on the Promise? What should my BIOS settings look like? The Promise drivers are installed on the boot drive, the system will post and I'll see a flash of the Windows XP intro screen, then a flash of a blue screen and it kicks it back to booting again. I've never been able to see what that blue screen is telling me. THe drives I want to put on the Promise controller are PATA drives, I don't want SATA or RAID, just using the Promise as a third connection for IDE drives.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I have tried every imaginable way of setting the BIOS, but can't seem to hit the right combination. That's what I did on my first try when I got it working, hit a lucky combination and it worked.

Thank you. I had already tried the settings in the post you linked to. I had no luck there. I've reinstalled the Promise drivers, but the boot drive refuses to go past the Windows flash screen before resetting. I think it's quite simple what I'm trying to do. I have six drives. On IDE 1 I want to two storage drives to be connected. On IDE 2 I'm putting the Cd and DVD optical drives. On IDE 3 (Promise) I would like to have my boot (master) drive and a slave drive. Rearranging cables I can get the drive to boot from IDE 1, but no luck with IDE 3. I think it's the Promise drivers, they appear to be installed, but I don't think they are working. I'm going to copy the Promise drivers to a floppy and reinstall XP with the boot drive on IDE 3 and see if I get anywhere with that.
The link referred more to SATA and RAID setup, I just want to use the Promise IDE. I'd sure hate to have to put the awful Abit IC7-G back in my system as I can only get 5 IDE devices in that one instead of the 6 the MSI should run.

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