Questions on DTP

Hi,
I have a few questions on DTP:
1. How do I know the total time of an extraction?
I noticed that there are two different things:
- Validity Period in Header tab
- Duration in Details tab
What are the differences between two and which gives me the correct total extraction time?
2. What is the optimum number for Package Size?
I extracted data from a DSO totalling 10,000+ records.
When I tested for 1,000 and 5,000 Package Size, it is slower than 50,000 Package Size. If making the Package Size smaller reduces performance, then what is the use of Parallel Processing in DTP? Is it because of I only have 1 background process available for DTP so parallel processing doesnt make any sense in my situation?
Thanks!

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Questions regarding DTP

Hello Experts
I am trying to load data from ODS to a Cube and have the following questions regarding DTP behaviour.
1) I have set the extratcion mode of the DTP to delta as I understand that it behaves like init with data transfer for the first time. However, it fetches the records only from the change log of the ODS. Then what about all the records that are in the active table. If it cannot fetch all the records from the active table then how can we term it as init with data transfer.
2) Do I need to have to seperate DTPs - One for full load to fetch all the data from the active table and another to fetch deltas from the change log.
Thanks,
Rishi

1. When you choose the Delta as Extraction mode you get the data from only change log table.
Change log table will contain all the records.
Suppose when you run a load to DSO which contains 10 records and activate it. Now those 10 records would be available in Active table as well as Change log.
Now in the Second load you have 1 new record and 1 changed record. When you activate, your active table will have 11 records. The change log will have before and after image records for the changed record along with 11 record.
So The cube needs that images, so that data can't be mismatched with old data.
2.If you run the full load to Cube from DSO you need to delete the old request after the load. which is not necessary in the previous case.
In Bi 7.0 when you choose full load extraction mode you will have flexibility to load the data either from " Active Table or Change log table".
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Error DTP is not working.

Hi
I have a question regarding DTP error handling. I have erronious data on PSA, now i am correcting data in PSA and loading to ODS and activating.As it is a full load, I want to keep these records in an another table like error PSA in 3.x. How it is possible in BI. I have created Error DTP which will post error records in Error stack and dont let the load fail. But it is not working.
Please help me.
Haaris

HI,
On the Update tab page in the data transfer process (DTP), the error handling settings allow you to control how the system responds if errors occur in the data records when data is transferred from a DTP source to a DTP target.
These settings were previously made in the Info Package. When using data transfer processes, Info Packages only write to the PSA. Therefore, error handling settings are no longer made in the Info Package but in the data transfer process.
Settings for Error Handling
For a data transfer process (DTP), you can specify how you want the system to respond when data records contain errors. If you activate error handling, the records with errors are written to a request-based database table (PSA table). This is the error stack. You can use a special data transfer process, the error DTP, to update the records to the target.
Temporary storage is available after each processing step of the DTP request. This allows you to determine the processing step in which the error occurred.
"Repairing" with Error DTP
You create an error DTP for an active data transfer process on the Update tab page. You run it directly in the background or include it in a process chain so that you can schedule it regularly in the context of your process chain. The error DTP uses the full update mode to extract data from the error stack (in this case, the source of the DTP) and transfer it to the target that you have already defined in the data transfer process.
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REG: Correcting error records which have invalid characters

Hi All,
I had couple of questions regarding DTP.
DTP loads are failing because of the invalid characters, we are correcting the error records from the error stack and then running the Error DTP to process further. now my question is the original DTP is still red, with correct records in the RSMO showing red. Please let me know how to make the red request in to green and maintain the data integrity.
Thanks in advance.

I have corrected the Error stack and updated the corrected records through the Error DTP.
I checked the Number of records which have come to the Table, it is showing correct number of records( i.e error stack data + correct records which loaded in the first shot) but the technical status is still red, so i am curious if i am change the overall status to green manually will that affect the data in any manner?

DTP Questions: Delete overlapping requests; Repair Full Request

Hello,
I'm new with the DTP concept in BI 7.0.
It is clear to me how DTP is working for normal loads like: full, delta, delta without data transfer etc.
But I don't see where I can specifies "Delete overlapping requests". Is this still possible in a DTP, or is it only possible by creating a Process Chain and insert the process-type "delete overlapping requests" ?
Also I have a question about "Repair Full request" using DTP. Is this option still possible ? Or do I have to create a DTP with extraction-mode = Full => Extraction from Active table. => Is delta than still working ?
Thanks for your input,
Wim

But I don't see where I can specifies "Delete overlapping requests". Is this still possible in a DTP, or is it only possible by creating a Process Chain and insert the process-type "delete overlapping requests" ?
This option is available only in Process Chains when u use DTP's.
/people/community.user/blog/2007/06/21/sap-netweaver-70-bi-data-transfer-process-with-147only-get-delta-once148
/people/community.user/blog/2007/06/21/sap-netweaver-70-bi-data-transfer-process-with-147get-data-by-request148
Also I have a question about "Repair Full request" using DTP. Is this option still possible ? Or do I have to create a DTP with extraction-mode = Full => Extraction from Active table. => Is delta than still working ?
Full Load was made Repair Full to Initialize if loading an ODS but however you dont need to worry abt the same in Netweaver 7.0 as DTP is taking care of the loading from PSA to DSO.
Initialization can be done after a full load as the load is only till PSA ( At Datasource Level ).
DTP doesnot require any initialization.
U can jst do a Delta DTP after a Full DTP to a DSO or u can even start with a Delta DTP directly.
For the first time -> Delta DTP = Full DTP !!

Pages DTP questions from a newbie

Hello. I'm new to Pages 'page layout' but have used other low-end DTP products on Windows (Serif's PagePlus was pretty good). I'm under pressure to complete a document but can't seem to figure some things out. I hope someone can help with these questions.
1. Is it possible to 'autofit' text into a text box. With a fixed document I find it difficult to fine tune the last page so that the text and images fit OK. In other applications I think the software was able to fine tune the font size so as to include all the text of to avoid clipping a word or two.
2. Can I permanently 'lock' design and text elements together, so that they will always move, and maybe even change size together. At least I'm thinking of e.g. a photo with its caption. I know I can select both and for that time move them together, but I can't see a way to make that relationship permanent. Can I permanently lock them together? Can I 'lock' a complete page?
3. Is it possible to use a 'reference' to an image held elsewhere on my hard disk? Ideally I'd like to be able to have my Pages document reflect changes (e.g. colour adjustments) to the master source image. For example in Serif PagePlus it would only 'embed' images below a certain size, and bigger images were just 'linked' to in the master DTP document.
4. Is there any Apple or third-party application that can convert a Pages DTP document into a web page?
Thanks.

1 and 3 I fully understand, but I'm not clear about your explanation in 2. For example if I place a photo in a layout and then add a caption beneath it, are you saying that there is some way I can 'lock' them so that they behave as a unit?
Probably a limitation on my side, but I don't seem to understand what you want to do :
1) are you asking if a frame with a photograph and a frame with a caption for the photograph can be grouped, and that the grouped frames can be automatically moved if more material is added above the group in continuous single column mode (wordprocessing mode), or
2) are you asking if the frame with a photograph and the frame with the caption for the photograph can be grouped and can be automatically moved if more material is added above the group in discontinuous multiple column mode (layout mode)?
The problem lies in the way the problem is posed, so to speak. While you would want (1) because in continuous single column mode there is no concept of fixed co-ordinates for frames, you would not want (2) precisely because in discontinous multiple column mode there are fixed co-ordinates for frames.
A story that starts in a frame on page 3 might skip page 4 and continue in a frame on page 5. If the positions of the frames you defined did not preserve their fixed positions, the concept of flowing copy from one frame/column to another frame/column would not work.
There appear to be problems in Word for Macintosh 2008. If I understand the MacWorld review roughly right, and I may not have done so, then the behaviour is still that of wordprocessor when the application is used in layout mode, and that would have to be a bug (not that Pages does not have its fair share of those, of course).
"The first time I ran into any limitations in Word was when I started to add floating objects—such as pictures and callout text around which text flows. For starters, its image-editing tools aren’t very good. More significantly, when I changed a column of text, the floating objects in it refused to stay in place. Instead they moved around as if tied to the text they were originally placed next to, destroying my layout. If I selected all the text in a document and deleted it or replaced it with text from the Clipboard, floating objects within the original text disappeared, too. In other words, if you make any major changes to a document after inserting floating objects, you’ll probably need to completely re-create your layout."
Reference:
http://www.macworld.com/article/132901-2/2008/04/office_word.html

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DTP Transporting Question

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when I transport the 2 DTP's from Development box to Production system the DTP name are not the same as Development box DTP's Name.
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Hi Roshan,
DTP's Technical name will gets changed when u transport them from one system to the other system.
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Error while copying a DTP

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Its a simple yet confusing error to me. I copy a DTP which has some filters defined. I get an error saying both the DTPs can not have the same filter criteria - if its a Delta DTP. I say ok and try to change the filter values , interestingly the error still remains and my new DTP does not activate.
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DTP not getting displayed in Transported Objects in Quality System

We are Tranporting all the CRM Master Data but no DTP AND IP are getting displayed in Quality system is there any setting to make to transport these or get it displayed.
Please help
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Soniya

I dont understand the question. Can you pl explain what do you want to do?
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Open Hub Destination question

Hi,
We want to be able to extract data from a cube and would like to use Open Hub Destination for it. We also want to extract deltas.
The question is ..
Should we be making a single info package for this with delta capability ..
or 2 separate info packages .. 1 for full mode and another for delta mode.
Regards
Vandana

Hi,
Yes what you said it is write
from which cube do u want to retract the daat that cube will be the source
first create the open hub in RSBO tcode and
in open hub destination select aht and create the transformation between the table( to where u want to export)
then create the DTP between the cube to the table
and directly u can use the delta DTP first all the records will come and later onle delta records will be updated.
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sathish

DTP Delta request for open hub destination.

Hi expert,
As you know, In BW 7.0, open hub destination is used for open hub service, and you can create tranformation/DTP for the destination. and in some case the DTP delta is enabled.
my questions are
1) in the context menu of open hub destination, I did not find something like manage, which could list all the DTP request executed for this open hub destination..but for normal infocube or ods, you can find a list.
2) if the DTP could enable the delta, where can I delete the latest delta request, and have a new load..
3) I assume the DTP could be excuted with batch integrated with process chain by process type 'DTP', right ? if the destination type is third party tool, can it also be integrated with process chain ?
4) can give some obvious difference of InfoSpoke and open hub destination in terms of advantage and disadvantage..
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Best Regards,
Bin

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Please look at the links below . hope it helps .
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What is DTP in BI 7.0 why is it used what are it advantages?

Hi all,
I am new to BI 7.0 why should we created DTP what is it significance. Can anyone let me know how to create DTP.
thanxs
haritha

In BI 7.0 if you load data from Source System it will go to PSA.This is still done by Infopackage.Here Infopackage can't push data beyond PSA .
so loading will be like
Source System>DataSource>Infopackage--->PSA.
Now once the data comes to PSA ,it can be further updated to a Cube a DSO or Infobject using a DTP+Transformation.
Here DTP and Transformation are parallel to each other .Each Transformation will have its dedicated DTP.Now whether your request is init or delta it will matter only while you are loading till PSA,so its only the concern of your Infopackage.DTP will not care much about that .Its main job is to push the request of the PSA to Target or to Push the request from One target to another target.So data flow is like this
PSA>Transformation+DTP->Target->Transformation+DTP>Target1
Now ,the important question is then what is Delta and Full in DTP.If you have setting as Delta in DTP then it will only pull the unloaded request from PSA and ignore the request which have been successfully loaded to the Target.It very important point to be taken care of.For loading between Data Target to Data Target (Data Mart scenario) delta option will bring only those records to Target1 from Target which have not been present there.
If you have full load DTP ,it will pull all the requests from PSA irrrespective of whether they have been loaded or not ,causing you sometimes duplicate records issue etc.
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Error in DTP?

Hi Gurus,
I am trying to load the data from data source 2lis_03_BX to DSO(Write
optimized DSO: Z_DSO_BX). Data is in the data source(Checked in extract
checker and in PSA).
Created Transformations in DSO and DTP is scheduled.In DTP Monitor--> process request it showed as below
X Data Package : Errors During Processing
expanding this Data Package,
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     -Beginning extraction request REQU_D3HSSOSMZIQMOV....
     -Extraction completed
-Filter Out New Records with the same key:...
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     -102 records received; 102 records forwarded
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X Update to Data source Object Z_DSO_BX
     - Unpack Data Package
     X exceptions in substep: Write Data Package
     X Messages for 102 data records saved: request is red acc. to configuration
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NOTE:- indicates green; X indicates red in the process
1. Are the transformations wrong (after activating I got message "transformations activated successfully")
2. Is this an Error while scheduling in DTP? if so How to debug this(Tried deleting the request and uploading new request)
3.Problem with Service pack?
Please help to load the data in the DSO...

Hi,
I changed the write optimized DSO to standard DSO and tried loading the DATA through DTP. This time it is showing green color and showing Data has been loaded to target (i.e., DSO).
But when I tried to see the data (we need to enter atleast one parameter in order to see the contents in the active table right? Tried giving almost all the parameters one each time) I am getting a message Specific entries not found in Table
My question is How to see the whole data in DSO with or with out giving parameters (Key fields like MATNR)?
Why there is SQL error while trying with DSO? Did u face this Problem any time?
Thanks in advance...

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Info Object: 0GLACEXT
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Dear Mr Surya,
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We have loaded Hierarchy to 0GLACCEXT successfully.
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