Questions related to SMC and firmware update

In 2005 just before Tiger OS was launched, I purchased the iMac G5 which was introduced in Oct, '04. This is a 1.8GHZ-17inch iMac, and I would like to find out if there is any firmware that need to be updated.
I tried to reset the SMC - shut the computer, unplug power for 15 seconds, restart - and have not noticed any changes with the malfunctioning sleep function. When I click it to sleep it immediately shuts the system off.
I can't determine if this is caused because I never have updated the firmware, or because the SMC needs to be reset.
Would any required firmware update would also show when I run the update software application? If not, how can I find out if any firmware for the iMac model needs to be updated?
To reset the SMC for some computers one needs to open the system and reset a button in the motherboard. I don't wan't to do that unles I need. I also need to know where the reset button is located.
Your help and/or comments are appreciated.

I'll second that -- everything sounds normal -- Mac's just run hotter at times -- in real-life use, you will probably find it doesn't get that hot. Those tests are literally for the birds. Too many people in these forums give too much bad advise, and it leads to people being worried about nothing.
In general, you will do better with chat forums in other sites, rather than this help forum, because 99 percent of the people who post here are those who have some kind of problem, and rather than going to their apple store, they post and post their problems over and over here (and other sites).
The likelihood of you having any real-world problems are pretty much nil.

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GRe: Zen 8G This device cannot start code 0 and firmware update problem?Hello Tbg99,
Welcome to Creative forums!
Try booting the player in the recovery mode.
. While the ZEN is off, press and hold down the play/pause button.
2. While holding down the play/push button, push the reset button slowly using a paper clip/pin. You should feel the "click" sound when press it.
3. Slide the On/Off switch towards the power button and hold it down until the recovery boot screen appears.
Choose Clean Up then Reboot. If problem still persists, you may need to format the ZEN but take note that formatting will delete the contents of the device. To format the ZEN, boot the ZEN in the recovery mode again and choose Format this time.

How to obtain software and firmware updates via CD

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Because I don't have broadband, I was wondering if Apple mails a CD w/ software and firmware updates.
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I have read the threads in the forums on the same problem that I am having. It seems that there are few solutions for this and the ones that have been posted I have tried. Basically the problem is this, I made the silly mistake of trying to update the firmware on my Zen 8G since it was listed as a critical update. I downloaded the firmware but it failed and took me to the recovery screen. Instead of working with this, again silly me, I tried to use the Creative recovery tool. This downloaded the firmwary and started rebooting the player. At this point it just hung. I left it on for about 3 hours and nothing happened and it wouldn't turn off so I hit the reset button on the player. Now when I connect it to the computer it recognizes it as a creative zen but if I try to download the firmware the software says the player is not connected when it is. When I check the device driver, even though it shows it as a creative zen it says "This device cannot start code 0"? I have the latest Microsoft device driver loaded and it still doesn't work.
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GRe: Zen 8G This device cannot start code 0 and firmware update problem?Hello Tbg99,
Welcome to Creative forums!
Try booting the player in the recovery mode.
. While the ZEN is off, press and hold down the play/pause button.
2. While holding down the play/push button, push the reset button slowly using a paper clip/pin. You should feel the "click" sound when press it.
3. Slide the On/Off switch towards the power button and hold it down until the recovery boot screen appears.
Choose Clean Up then Reboot. If problem still persists, you may need to format the ZEN but take note that formatting will delete the contents of the device. To format the ZEN, boot the ZEN in the recovery mode again and choose Format this time.

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It happened.
I wait, wait, wait and finally buy an 80gb for $350 and a month later 160gb for less comes out!
The only new feature I like is the album cover browse...text listing doesn't mean anything to me for over half my collection - I KNOW my album covers though.
Is there any plans for a firmware update that will bring my 80gb iPod the ability to operate similar to the new releases of today? I'd like the album browse feature on my 80gb...

If it wasn't so difficult and hidden to find out how to contact them directly, I would. Thanks for your answer! I hope it's wrong though...
To your knowledge, have they ever had firmware updates for any product?
Also, to your knowledge, do Apple reps browse these discussion forums? Maybe someone will accuratley respond.
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Freeze at startup after System and Firmware update - Help!

I took the automated system upgrade last Sunday including updates on a bunch of Apple applications, OS X 10.4.6 (it was included if I recall correctly) and a SMC Firmware update. After downloading all files and installing them my iMac restarted. After that the SMC Firmware upgrade started and I followed the instructions ending in another restart.
This is where my problems began. At this startup I got through the grey screen with the Apple logo and got so far as to the blue screen with the Mac symbol saying something like "starting up". The progress bar started moving and froze after reaching about a fifth of its final length.
As this was a firmware update I didn't want to interrupt anything so I left it for the night (no progress in the morning) and for the next day. Still no progress when I came home from work so I shut it down (pulled the power cord).
Efter this I've tried to fall back using the Firmware Restoration CD available at Apple's support page, but this doesn't work. My iMac refuses to start the installation of the old Firmware even though I follow the fallback instructions. (After starting the computer and keeping the power on button pressed I wait for the front light below the screen to first flash rapidly for a while and then do a SOS (three short, three long and three short blinks). The SOS however, never happens, instead the computer proceeds directly to the grey startup screen before it freezes when it reaches the blue screen.
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minxlj,
It is not my intention to be rude, however, it is my intention to be direct. Do you have a G5 or do you have an Intel Core Duo, or perhaps even both? Because right now your signature says you have a G5, which has PPC chips in it made by IBM, not Core Duo chips made by Intel.
The reason I ask is because, just as in another Discussion here in the Intel forum, you are responding to information that appears to not apply to the computer you say you have and you are giving information that, if you have a G5, does not apply to the computers of the folks here in the Intel forum.
Could you please clear that up by correcting your signature so everyone here knows you are comparing oranges with oranges and not mangos with oranges?
Staffan,
As far as the SMC Firmware update and the Firmware Restoration CD, the two items are not related. The Firmware Restoration CD is only for the Firmware Update that came out in mid-April. It is intended for someone whose computer messed up in the application of the Firmware Update and is intended to bring their computer back to its Firmware state prior to the botched Firmware Update. It will not assist you if you had problems applying the SMC Firmware Update from early May.
If I am understanding your description of your Mac's problem it sounds if if you have successfully installed the SMC firmware update, but now have a possible 3rd party satrtupitem that is not allowing your Mac's OS X to fully boot. You can check to see if both the Firmware Update and SMC Firmware Update have been successfully installed by booting your Mac into safe Mode by pressing the "Shift" key during startup. This boot will take longer than normal because it is verifying and repairing your directory. After the desktop appears, go to Apps/Utilities/System Profiler. In the Contents section, highlight Hardware and Hardware Overview should show; Boot ROM Version: IM41.0055.B03 for the Firmware update and SMC Version: 1.1f5 for the SMC Firmware Update.

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Macbook 4,1 2008 2.4Ghz (not unibody). I recently reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled 10.6 from the Retail DVD and all seemed to go well. The MB was working fine up to that point. I then set up the MB (network, date and time, etc.) and repaired permissions.
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The display doesn't seem dead, as it works to boot and wake. The MB works fine with external monitor.
It's weird, but I can't think of anything apart from the Firmware update. The problems started right after installing it.
Unfortunately, this model of Macbook doesn't have a Firmware Restoration image to download and burn to CD. It is the ONLY Mac at this point that doesn't have this!
I called Apple support and even bought the 49 Euro Pay Per Incident service, which proved to be the same as throwing 49 Euro out the window. The only "technical" support they provided was to Reset the SMC, which you can find out about FOR FREE at the Apple website. And which I'd done anyway. I'd also reinstalled the MacOS. Don't want to beef too much, but sheesh, you've already got a Macbook that might need costly repairs, and they make you pay 49 Euro BEFORE they even ask you about the problem and what you've done to try to solve it. I'm tempted to say "ripoff". I mean, if all they can offer you is the advice to reset the SMC - which Apple offers for free at their website - then that's pretty poor service for 49 Euro, to say the least.
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Thanks for the reply.
Re. the Displays setting, the Macbook display isn't recognized and mirroring isn't an available option.
I've scoured the net and the idea of replacing the PRAM battery may be something to try. I read a post by a guy with a Macbook logic board screwed up by a Firmware update, which he solved by replacing the PRAM battery, as when you disconnect it you reset the logic board.
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1) it came thru Software Update
2) there was no warning
3) to make things worse, there's no Firmware Restoration image that I can burn to a CD to reflash the logic board: this is the only Apple computer that doesn't have a Firmware Restoration option
I'll try to get thru to a manager and convince him/her that the firmware may have been the cause.
Do you think an authorized Apple tech might have access to some way to do a firmware restoration? Something not avaiable to mere mortals? Because if not, the only solution looks like a new logic board.

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Never apply updates w/o one.
And yes there is a page with all the Apple Downloads to do manually and then you can keep it on hand. Same for the OS X Lion or ML installer - save them before running. Still on 10.6.8 so you have OS X 10.6 DVD.
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