Questions to moderators: is begging for points eligible to moderation?

Hello mods,
posted that outside of the RA thread, so that it be noticed and debated.
In a topic ({thread:id=2296311}) posted in the Community Feedback forum, OTN regulars voice against begging for points ("Please mark my answer as helpful/correct").
One of them even points to a "Posting Guidelines" post ({message:id=9698382}) (I don't know whether it's a copy of whatever official OTN posting guidelines page) that suggests moderators are allowed to edit out such point-begging posts.
I have noticed such begging lately, including from respected and otherwise helpful regulars.
- What is the community's opinion about points begging?
- What is the moderator's point of view about moderating it out? I've never seen that applied here - I don't know how busy you are with the existing duty already, been away for a while.
Best regards,
J.
Edited by: jduprez on Oct 23, 2011 12:45 AM - fixed title

EJP wrote:
In a topic ({thread:id=2296311}) posted in the Community Feedback forum, OTN regulars voice against begging for points ("Please mark my answer as helpful/correct").Only the OP of the thread has actually done that, and he's hardly a regular with only 141 posts.I haven't claimed that. This topic just reminded me some deviant behavior beheld here lately.
The rest of it is a discussion by real regulars about the inanity of the points system and of the forum software ;-)As usual on that forum, yes :o) It's quite hard to convince them that the same harshly-bashed Jive software was working fine on the late Sun forums.
One of them even points to a "Posting Guidelines" post ({message:id=9698382}) (I don't know whether it's a copy of whatever official OTN posting guidelines page) that suggests moderators are allowed to edit out such point-begging posts.That message in in the PL/SQL forum only. I'm a moderator and I've never been aware of such a guideline in general.
And I certainly don't go around editing posts wholesale, life's too short.Fair enough.
I have noticed such begging lately, including from respected and otherwise helpful regulars.Here? I haven't seen it.Maybe not on JP, but on various other narrower-topic Java forums. But I won't sneak on ... , ..., and ..., they're worth better than that :o)
- What is the moderator's point of view about moderating it out? I've never seen that applied here - I don't know how busy you are with the existing duty already, been away for a while.My opinion is that I really couldn't care less about points begging. The moderators have more important things to do than go looking for trivia like this, such as work, and real moderation, i.e. of offensive or irrelevant content. But in general if a post has no useful content, it is noise, and therefore probably eligible for deletion. If you find such a post you are welcome to report it in the 'Report Abuse' thread where the moderators will at least see it.Note taken. Case closed.
Have a nice day,
J.

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