Quick Develop preset for WB

I would like to be able to create a preset that will set white balance to "Auto" and then add on quick develop click.
Can this be done? If so how?
Thanks

That much I know, its how to add the quick develop relative amount to the preset that has me befuddled.
Quick Develop in the Library module has fine and gross adjustment click icons. These move the color temp (or tint) a certain amount depending on the white balance set.
What I want to do is have the preset set white balance and one click. So far everything I've tried has the present setting a specific degree K to the image.
Any ideas?
The reason I want to do this is so the preset can be applied during import. There is no need to have the preset available in Quick Develop, it already permits selecting from all the camera white balance options.
Thanks.

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Go to the develop module and highlight all of the images in the filmstrip at the bottom of the screen. Then activate Auto-sync and click on the Reset button. That should reset all of the images to your camera default settings.

Develop Preset for Import in LR4.2 (iMac 10.8.2)

Can any please tell me how to set up a preset on the Import page (there are some there now) that I can use when I import my photos into LR. I am tired of going to Lens Correction in the Develop mod to put the nikon lens in that I used for the shoot. It is always turned off and I would like to have it activated when I import my shots. I know that while in the Develop mod, I can change it for one photo and then use "sync" to have it address all the other photos. But then it is a pain in the butt. There must be a way of doing it on import and that is the reason I am asking for your help. Either that or else have it recognize the lens that I used automatically.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Tunney
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Hi Tunney,
I would second JimHess: of course you could employ a develop preset during Import, but then all images would be labelled as having develop adjustments. And you do not see where you have invested develop work already.
I consider the Adobe defaults just as a starting suggestion, which may or may not apply to my taste per camera.
So I would rather tweak the default develop settings: just make sure that you include only stuff that virtually applies to ALL of your images.
I, too, have included automatic lens correction and defringe edges.
First decide in your catalog settings if you want the develop defaults specific per camera type or serial number or even ISO ( a nightmare if you ever use auto-ISO).
Then select a sample image, goto develop module and set only the stuff that should apply to all imported images. Then save them as new default settings.
You do nit change anything during import then.
If you hit the Reset button it will always revert to these defaults.
Cornelia

LR3/LR4 Develop Presets Behavior

I'm a little bit confused about LR3 Develop Presets that do not include the Process Version information when applied to an image that is in PV2012. Let's assume a Develop Preset for Clarity +25. Here are the steps and the results:
1. Image PV2012 - apply Preset - Clarity slider stays on 0 and it looks like Clarity has not been applied to the image
2. Change image to PV2010 in Camera Calibration - Clarity slider changes to +25 - Clarity is applied
3. Change image back to PV2012 - Clarity slider stays at +25 and the rest of the new PV2012 settings are applied as well
So, is this the correct behavior? Shouldn't the Preset alrady be applied in step 1 ?
What am I missing here?
If the Preset contains the PV information everyhting works "as designed" with the sliderers reverting back to PV2010 if applied to a PV2012 image.
Is the lesson here to always include PV information into any Develop Preset?
Andre

I can follow you technically. But from a user perspectice this is getting difficult to manage. How do I know which preset will work and which doesn't? Right now it seems, its trial and error. And if I switch between PV versions the setting will be applied but it won't be the same because Clarity2012 is different. Don't get me wrong, it is absolutely fine to improve image processing, but it would be nice to make these changes more obvious to the end-user who might not be so technically inclined. I could think of a little warning saying: You're trying to apply a preset setting that does not work in PV2012, or something along this line. It would be even nicer if Adobe would provide something like an Preset upgrade utility, which would help users to migrate to the new PV.
I just try to figure this out so that I know what to tell my students at the community college where I'm teaching LR and where I'll be facing these same questions.

Develop presets

Can anyone share their develop presets for a Canon 5D mk II in LR 4?

I'm not sure if it's still the same deal, but I had "joined" the X-Rite site and was able to download the Passport software for free. Then if you happen to have a new or like new 24 patch Color Checker chart you could essentially do the same thing as having the Passport chart, except it's not as portable or durable.
On a side note, I have made numerous Camera Cals with the Passport software from both charts, shooting the chart in daylight, strobe, tungsten or mixed whatever. The strobe/daylight (direct sun) versions have similar characteristics (I use one as a general import for that camera body). If you get into shade it will probably be best to make another. And you can make dual Cals from mixed lighting, which is best to make custom for each scene, due to the narrow spectrum sources. If you have several cameras, also make custom Cals for each.
Of course all this hinges on having a good display with good calibration and profiling. There's no sense fighting the color with a poor and/or uncalibrated display.
Ciao,
John

LR4.1 preset for sharpening darkens pictures

Hello,
the Adobe presets delivered with LR4 for sharpening include a command line which forces a switch to the new process engine "2012" or ProcessVersion = "6.7". I do not understand why Adobe allows a general preset to include a process version change command.
As a result, these sharpening presets can not be used on photos from an older LR3.x catalog without affecting the exposure or brightness - if you do, the picture exposure or brightness or whatever is set to lower settings, the histogram shows a darkening of about 2/3 aperture. Unfortunately, as the exposure changes, no slider or number value of the exposure, brightness etc. do change - very inconsistent.
In case you would choose to develop an older photo in LR4.1 and first use the upate icon button right of the picture to update the photo to process version 2012, then the picture will convert without changes in exposure (to the new process version) and then, the sharpening preset will not alter the exposure.
Also, it is hard to understand that the command line in the preset has a different result compared to the update button.
Presets seem to be dependent on certain process versions. No consideration is visible in the software for upgrade of change management of presets vs. process versions. A hard switch by command line does not to the job - this command line should not be in the preset. OR - the presets have to be named "LR4.1 presets only".
I consider this behaviour to be a bug or nonconformity of the software.
Mostly confused. I will have to manage all manually, with a catalog of approx. 35.000 pictures.
Any resolution to this?
Gerd

There are a number of LR4 Develop presets That apply PV2012 without doing the develop conversion process. This sure looks like a bug to me!
I agree with Rob that there should be a "warning" popup and proper conversion if you choose to proceed.
You can submit a bug report here:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family
For now your easiest solution is to create your own develop presets, or copy LR3's presets by 'Import' into a 'New Folder' titled 'LR3 Presets inside the LR4 Develop module 'Presets' panel.
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/04/updating-develop-presets-for-lightroom-4-2 .html
I just tried it on my Windows 7 LR4.1 and the LR3 presets work fine in LR4. It looks like they also include PV2010 as part of the LR3 preset, so make sure you don't use them with any LR4 PV2012 processed images. LR3 must be installed (or reinstalled) to 'Import' the LR3 develop presets into LR4.
Here's the path on Windows 7 to 'Import' the LR3 presets inside LR4's Develop module:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets\Lightroom Presets
The new 'LR3 Presets' folder will also show up in LR3's Develop preset panel. Simply ignore it if you still use LR3, but don't delete the folder.

Develop Preset display in Quick Develop is NOT Hierarchical

It's nice that lists of presets in quick develop now show in flyout folders, but that only works for 1 level of folders. The UI still does not respect the hierarchy of nested subfolders and therefore all subfolders appear in the list on the same level as the top-level parent folder. So you can still very quickly end up with pages worth of scrolling to get to the bottom of the list if there are lots of folders and/or lots of presets in a given folder. And there is still no slider on that flyout menu so the scrolling itself is painfully slow instead of quickly zipping down with a scrollbar.
So yes, this is better than it was before with one long flat list. But it is not hierarchical and it's still painfull slow for large lists.

It's nice that lists of presets in quick develop now show in flyout folders, but that only works for 1 level of folders. The UI still does not respect the hierarchy of nested subfolders and therefore all subfolders appear in the list on the same level as the top-level parent folder. So you can still very quickly end up with pages worth of scrolling to get to the bottom of the list if there are lots of folders and/or lots of presets in a given folder. And there is still no slider on that flyout menu so the scrolling itself is painfully slow instead of quickly zipping down with a scrollbar.
So yes, this is better than it was before with one long flat list. But it is not hierarchical and it's still painfull slow for large lists.

Presets used for Printing / Relative Develop Presets

Hi
I am still not able to produce accurate colors when printing on my HP Color Laserjet CP3505X (the printer does not allow me to disable color management, and yes, I am using a calibrated monitor). Even with the sRGB profiles mentioned here (http://forums.adobe.com/message/2165085#2165085) and printer settings on sRGB I still have a color shift in my prints.
But I could (by experimenting) find out, what corrections have to be applied to the images for them to come out right in printing (e.g. Temperature +600, Tint +15).
Is there a way to have such a correction applied while printing, like a preset used only when printing?
Or, if not, is there a way to define a develop preset which acts relative (cumulative), meaning that I only code the difference of what I want to be added to the rest of the development settings? Such a preset then could be applied as the last action before printing.
Either method would partially solve my problem.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

Jao,
Jao vdL wrote:
Not using Lightroom's controls. What you describe is exactly what a printer profile is supposed to do.
I know that this is the purpose of a printer profile. What I would need is a correction (preset) on top of the profile used.
II. Create a real printer profile. You can either do this using a higher-end calibrator or using one of several services. Usually you download a file. Print it. Mail it to them and they send you back a profile that will work for the combination of ink/paper/printing settings that you used. See for example:
http://www.inkjetart.com/custom_profiles/
Or this websearch.
Since I cannot switch off color management with my printer, I am using the sRGB profile you recommended in this post of yours and let the printer work with sRGB.
I even would be able to create a printer profile myself (I own a Spyder3Print™ to calibrate a printer). But this involves being able to disable color management in the printer (driver) completely, which seems impossible with the CP3505X .
So what I would need is a combination of the sRGB profile I use, corrected by lets say 600K temperature and 15 ticks tint. But I have no idea how to get there.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

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How do I send photos to Walgreen Drug Store for quick development?

The first of these should help.
There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Command-Click for selecting multiple pics.
(Note the above illustration is not a Finder Window. It's the dialogue you get when you go File -> Open)
You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:
There's a similar option in Outlook and many, many other apps. If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running:
For users of 10.6 and later: You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu.
Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
For Users of 10.4 and 10.5 Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser
Other options include:
Drag and Drop: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
File -> Export: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
Show File: a. On iPhoto 09 and earlier: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected. 3.b.
b: On iPhoto 11 and later: Select one of the affected photos in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Reveal in Finder -> Original. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.

Grouping of develop presets in the 'Saved Presets' dropdown in Library module

I'm sure a lot of people download lots of presets from the internet to try, and end up with loads of them.
In the library module, they all appear as a single long, cumbersome list in the dropdown 'Saved Preset' in the quick develop panel.
This makes this dropdown totally unusable if you have more than say, 40 presets - often the most commonly-used presets are at the bottom, and you have to scroll for ages to get to them.
Would be great (and a simple solution) to be able to group them. You can group them in the presets folder, and they do appear grouped in the 'develop' module, but not in the library module.

+1 vote.
Presently, I just use the Develop Module if I want to assign a preset - because it has the folders.
Rob

Applying develop presets to multiple photos

Is there a way to do this. If I select multiple photos and click on a preset, it only applies it to the first one. Using copy & paste or Sync is not an option as I see it because one does not know which settings to tick / untick in the copy or sync dialog boxes to get the same results for each photo. Ticking all settings will do more harm than good if I understand it correctly.
Am I being daft or is this a shortcoming of LR 1.0 ?

Or in Library module, select all of the images, and right-click and
select Develop Settings and choose your preset. You'll also find them
in a dropdown list in the Quick Develop panel in Library module.
Victoria
www.photoshopservices.co.uk

White balance selections, Quick Develop and Develop...let's talk

One thing that isn't well-known is that the adjustments in Quick Develop and the adjustments in Develop are *fundamentally different* from each other.
Develop is basically designed to provide *absolute* adjustments to RAW images. It can be used for JPEGs too, but in that case, the white balance setting is not absolute as it's already been corrected in-camera. So the WB settings are meaningless since you don't know where to begin and the temperatures are removed for the same reason. You just start where you are and get warmer or cooler.
Quick Develop is designed to provide *relative* adjustments to all images. What this means is, if you have many images selected and hit the right exposure arrow ">" you'll increase the effective exposure of all of those images from wherever they are now to that plus 1/3 stop. If you hit the ">>" you'll get 1 stop increments.
Since QD is always making *relative* adjustments, it may be reasonable to assume that you have a known, corrected starting point from which to make relative adjustments. That may be why the daylight and other options are available in QD. I personally think this is a bad assumption as you don't know what corrections have been applied in-camera. Thus, I think those options shouldn't appear in QD just like they don't in Develop.
Comments?

The relative vs. absolute of the QD vs. Dev modules is something I'm not familiar with LR enough to dispute. However isn't the point of LR's non-destructive nature, that all actions on an image are relative to the initial baseline, whether it is a RAW or JPG (or Other).
Granted applying a preset WB set of values against a JPG does not make a lot of sense in the development of a repeatable workflow, but if a set of WB values improves a JPG image, who cares. Its all non-destructive and I can reset at any time.
I tend to not like operating in applications that are too stringent in keeping me walled into the "right" way of doing things. Particularly based on the super intelligent decision of the software developer because they know how it is supposed to work. (I have license to berate this group because it is my vocation) Changing the user interface from one module to another (if they both do the same thing) or from one file type to another is not a good thing. Consistency is paramount to user freindliness. If indeed the QD and the Dev modules work differently then it is expected that the controls be labeled differently to express this difference. If a selection is detrimental to the image or will cause application issues it is better to leave the selection visible (for consistency) and disable it (gray out) to keep it from being selected.
The abreviation of White Balance: to WB: in the application is also bad form. It is jargony and does not assist new users to understanding. Screen real estate is scarce and I understand the inclination to do this, but there is a cost.
- Morey

Disappearing develop presets

Hi all.... just got Lighroom 2 as a gift for Christmas and watched the 7 hour Luminous Ladnscape tutorial, so I'm ready to go.
First problem.... I downloaded some cool develop presets to tinker with, imported them to Lighroom2. At the end of the day, I quit out of the program. The next day, the presets were not there. Where did they go? Do I need to "save" them somehow?
I'm working on an iMac, upgraded to 10.5.6.

Mario,
Unfortunately I cannot reproduce what you're seeing with my german LR3.2RC.
But:
Even if I do store my presets with the catalog, I don't see any .lrtemplate files for the standard Adobe LR presets in the preset folder right next to the catalog. My catalog folder structure looks like this:
Folder [catalogname]
File [catalogname].lrcat
Folder [catalogname] Previews.lrdata
Folder Lightroom-EinstellungenFolder Develop Presets
Folder Lightroom-Vorgaben (Empty)
Folder User Presetsseveral .lrtemplate files
If I understand you right, you see 51 .lrtemplate files in the folder Lightroom-Vorgaben? If so, try to move those out of the folder while LR is closed and see if it helps.
Also, I noticed, by adding a preset in develop, the preset entries in quick develop get reordered alphabetically. Try adding a test-preset in Develop and see whether it solves your list in Quick Develop in Library.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

Develop preset has a "+" next to it

I found a lot of topics on presets but nothing that talks about a "+" sign......
I have LR 4.3, and have several User Presets. Most are from downloaded and installed presets like the "D300 Standard", "D300 Neutral", etc.
I've been using these for a long time - long before LR4, and they work fine.
Today, because I wanted a bunch of images to all have the same develop preset, in grid mode, I selected everybody and assigned the "D300 ACR4.4" preset while in the Library. Then, I went into Develop to tweak the ones I want, and noticed that my "D300 Standard" preset has a "+" next to it... I'm not using that preset for this image, and I'm curious what the "+" means...

I'm pretty sure it indicates the preset that was applied during the last import.....if next time you do an import and select "None" for "Develop Settings" under the "Apply During Import" box, I think you'll find the "+" will disappear.
Lightroom tends to use the "+" sign in various places to indicate something significant, for example to indicate the Target Collection (usually this is the Quick Collection, but can be re-assigned to any collection). Pressing "B" adds the current selection to the Target Collection, and the "+" indicates which collection is the Target. Same with Keywords.....assign one or more keywords to the Paint Can and that will be indicated by a "+" at the end of each keyword in the Keyword List.

Import or develop preset?

Hello - using Lr3.2.
If I view a photo in Develop - is there a preset I can apply to automatically do particular edits, like Clarity 12 / Vibrance 10 / Saturation 8, and certain NR & sharpening?
I see presets for tihis and that but have not applied them successfully.
Thanks for your help!
Also - just a quick thank-you to the experienced selfless contributors on this forum. You helped me many a time.

You can create your own presets, apply them in Develop or use them upon Import.
See the LR Help.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

Quick Develop preset for WB

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