Quick poll: Lion vs Snow Leopard for FCS

What is everyone using?
I've nothing but trouble with FCS since upgrading to Lion and I want to go back to Snow Leopard.
What will I lose out on? iCloud? Anything else?

What will I lose out on? iCloud? Anything else?
You'll only be "losing out" if you believe iCloud is a step forward.
If you are running FCP on an older machine, I don't see any compelling reason to be on 10.7.
The only reason I can imagine for running 10.7 at the moment is if I picked up a new machine that would not allow me to install 10.6.8.
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Need OS X Lion and Snow Leopard for iCloud functionality but I have a windows bootcamp on my mac. Problem?

I have a windows bootcamp on my macbook. I need to download OX Lion and Snow Leopard so I can . If I do download both programs, will I loose my bootcamp functionality?
Much apprecitive.

In addition to what Kappy suggested, please check your Mac against the hardware requirements of Lion before starting this project.
Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
2GB of memory
OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
7GB of available space
Allan

Compatibility of Mt lion and snow leopard for ichat

I have Snow Leopard on my imac and attempted to use i-chat with someone who has Mt Lion. An error message was given and no connection could be made.
Is this due to incompatibiity between the different OSs? If not what are possible causes and remedies????
Thank you for any assistance.

In addition to what Kappy suggested, please check your Mac against the hardware requirements of Lion before starting this project.
Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
2GB of memory
OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
7GB of available space
Allan

Lion or Snow Leopard for MacBook 3.1

Hi.
I just want a few opinions on whether its worth putting Lion on my MacBook and iMac.
I have two 2007 Macs, a MacBook 3.1 2.2Ghz 4Gb Ram with SSD and an iMac 7.1 2.4Ghz 4Gb Ram Core2Duo machines. I upgraded at the time to Snow Leopard from 10.5 and then kept them on that as they run CS5 fine for my needs. The company I work for has kept our Mac Pro's on 10.6 still as well so it's been kind of handy in that repect.
Recently I've been thinking I should maybe put Lion on so they are more up to date. I know they'll both run it (the iMac will even take ML) I'm just concerned about any speed impact this will have?
I know they're old machines, but they run Snow Leopard great and are not slow. Just want to gather opinions on whether I should or shouldn't put lion on from people that have run it on these machines?
Many thanks

Something to consider when upgrading to either Lion or Mountain Lion.
If the startup disk needs repairing or you need to restore OS X, that requires the built-in utilities in OS X Recovery
Apple does recommend a high speed broandband internet connection for that.
Lion requires 7GB of disk space, Mountain Lion 8GB.
4GB's of RAM would be sufficient for both.
Good user tips to read for both Lion and Mountain Lion ...
-- Lion (10.7) upgrade questions: Apple Support Communities
-- Mountain Lion 10.8 Updating requirements: Apple Support Communities

Why does mountain lion "bunch up" all my microsoft office documents that I have open when I hit f3? When I had snow leopard for example, if i had 4 or 5 different microsoft office documents open at the same time I could hit f3 and easily pick one of them

Why does mountain lion "bunch up" all my microsoft office documents that I have open when I hit f3? When I had snow leopard for example, if i had 4 or 5 different microsoft office documents open at the same time I could hit f3 and easily pick one of them.
Notice how in the photo, I can't identify which MS office document I would like to switch too. Perhaps since the Dashboard and Desktop windows are at the top of my screen now Apple doesn't let you have all the applications take up the full screen and be sized individually so that you can have a better idea on what to pick.
I like the idea of grouping to an extent... If you have a bunch of random things it was hard for me to decifer between what was safari, chrome, or word. But now that they grouped them like this, if you have multiple pages of one program running, you can't switch between those pages easily like before.

If I wanted to open any of my Applework documents I had to open them one at a time and resave them with pages. This could take weeks.I have 1000s of apple work documents.
You don't have to open and re-save every AppleWorks document you have right now. Just wait till you need one, then do it. The documents aren't going anywhere.
Am I dealing with Microsoft? This was a BIG surprise to me that Apple would release an OS without testing all programs.
Frankly, it is not Apple's responsibility to ensure compatibiltiy with every piece of software available for OS X. That is the responsibility of the software vendor. Lion has been available to developers for several months before it's release, so Microtek had plenty of time to update their software. Yet they did not. How is that Apple's fault? I think Apple was very generous to give you a refund for Lion.
I'm not trying to belittle your frustration but I do think your ire is misplaced.

Upgraded my macbook pro to mountain lion from snow leopard does this mean i can upgrade my imac as well for the same price? And will it mess it up?

upgraded my macbook pro to mountain lion from snow leopard does this mean i can upgrade my imac as well for the same price? And will it mess it up?

You can upgrade the iMac for no extra charge - sign into the App Store there, download and install 10.8.
I recommend that you make a backup (Time Machine is probably the easiest method) before you install, and make sure that you are not using any applications that are incomptible with 10.8 (eg Office 2004) - other than that, it should go smoothly.
Matt

Im pretty sure i have a very old software version for my macbook pro, how do i buy or download os x mountain lion or snow leopard?

im pretty sure i have a very old software version for my macbook pro, how do i buy or download os x mountain lion or snow leopard?sof

Make sure you read the system requirements. Also install Rosetta if you want Power PC applications to run.
Snow Leopard Purchase
Check that your computer is compatible with Mountain Lion/Mavericks.
To check the model number hold down the option/alt key, go to the Apple menu and select System Information.
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer) model number 3,1 or higher
Your Mac needs:
OS X v10.6.8 or OS X Lion already installed
2 GB or more of memory (More is better - 4 GB minimum seems to be the consensus)
8 GB or more of available space
If your computer isn’t compatible, you might be able to upgrade to Lion.
Computer Compatibility - Lion                       Lion
Check to make sure your applications are compatible. PowerPC applications are no longer supported after 10.6.
Application Compatibility
Applications Compatibility (2)
Do a backup before installing.

I've just upgraded to "Lion" from "Snow Leopard" which to my surprise does not support "Appleworks" I've used Appleworks for a number of years for all correspondence etc. and need to continue using this software. Do I need to go back to Snow Leopard? d

I've just upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard and to my surprise it does not support my 'Appleworks' application software. Ihave used Appleworks for all correspondence for six years and need to refer to the files (letters etc.) from time to time. Is my only option to revert back to Snow Leopard?

The reason appleworks no longer runs is because it is a powerpc based application. Since it's end-of-life in 2007, it was never converted to intel architecture, since it was dropped as a supported product. It continued to run on intel machines via rosetta, but OS X Lion formally discontinues all support for powerpc based programs. Powerpc based applications can only be run on OS X 10.6.8 or earlier releases (ones that still support rosetta).
So, it does sound like your best option is to move to iWorks' Pages now - otherwise you will be stuck with an increasingly more outdated operating system. And if you should buy a new machine, it would not run the older versions of OS X anyway, so at some point you have to leave appleworks behind and move on. Seems best to do it now, before Pages perhaps also moves forward to a point where it too may no longer support ancient file formats.
http://www.apple.com/support/appleworks/faq/

I installed mountain lion over snow leopard and my macbook pro 13" taking time for login and logout,

i installed mountain lion over snow leopard and my macbook pro 13" taking time for login and logout.. any solution

Hi JoeyR. Well, according to this link at the Apple Store, OS X Moutain Lion became available in July and I downloaded it for $19.99. I figured I would do that before renewing my Norton security SW. Are we talking about the same thing?
http://www.apple.com/osx/

Do I have to get a hard copy of Snow Leopard for my iMac if I already have it for my MacBook?

I have Leopard on my iMac, and Snow Leopard on my MacBook (both with all available updates)~I tried to use the Snow Leopard Install DVD from the MacBook to upgrade the iMac, but it said "Mac OS X 10.6 cannot be installed on this computer." Why??? Do I have to get a hard copy of Snow Leopard for my iMac? Are there different upgrades for the iMac vs. MacBook?
I think I understand that once I have both computers on Snow Leopard, the Lion upgrade would be ONE upgrade for BOTH computers {I'm guessing I would need the client version for at home use}. Also, once Lion was on one computer, would I just go into the Mac App store on the other one and download the upgrade on the other one? But no additional fee would be charged? Lastly, I read about the combo option that includes all updates to Lion since it's release~would that be the main Lion upgrade on the Mac App or would I have to search for it?
Thanks for your help!

The disc you used would have been the install disc that came with your Mac. These can only be used on that as they are made for that specific model.
Make sure your machine meets requirements
Macs with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Core i3, Intel Core i5, Intel Core i7, or Xeon processor.)
At least 2GB of RAM
Mac OS X 10.6.6 or later (Mac OS X 10.6.8 is recommended)
7 GB of free hard drive space is recommended
Once you've purchased it would be a good idea to create a bootable DVD or USB
http://www.macworld.com/article/161069/2011/07/make_a_bootable_lion_installer.ht ml
But you can also go into the purchased section and download again

I had Leopard on may Mac. I upgraded to Mountain Lion using Snow Leopard. I can't use my video with Mountain Lion. Can I load Snow Leopard on an external hard drive so I can use it with my camera?

I had Leopard on may Mac. I upgraded to Mountain Lion using Snow Leopard. I can't use my video with Mountain Lion. Can I load Snow Leopard on an external hard drive so I can use it with my camera?

First, you cannot do this if you have a Boot Camp partition.
Second: Create a new partition.
1. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
After the main menu appears select Disk Utility and click on the Continue button. Select the hard drive's main entry then click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
2. You should see the graphical sizing window showing the existing partitions. A portion may appear as a blue rectangle representing the used space on a partition.
3. In the lower right corner of the sizing rectangle for each partition is a resizing gadget. Select it with the mouse and move the bottom of the rectangle upwards until you have reduced the existing partition enough to create the desired new volume's size. The space below the resized partition will appear gray. Click on the Apply button and wait until the process has completed. (Note: You can only make a partition smaller in order to create new free space.)
4. Click on the [+] button below the sizing window to add a new partition in the gray space you freed up. Give the new volume a name, if you wish, then click on the Apply button. Wait until the process has completed.
You should now have a new volume on the drive.
It would be wise to have a backup of your current system as resizing is not necessarily free of risk for data loss. Your drive must have sufficient contiguous free space for this process to work.
Third: Install Snow Leopard.
Boot from your Snow Leopard DVD. Follow instructions for installation being sure that before you actually install Snow Leopard you have selected the new partition as your target destination.
Booting From An OS X Installer Disc
1. Insert OS X Installer Disc into the optical drive.
2. Restart the computer.
3. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "C" key.
4. Release the key when the spinning gear below the dark gray Apple logo
appears.
5. Wait for installer to finish loading.

How can i downgrade lion to snow leopard on my macbook pro of early 2011

I'm trying to downgra my mac book pro back to snow leopard. i've already tried with snow leopard cd directly, but it seems not to work. I was wandering if there is a way to get apple to send me the correct version of snow leopard for my mac.
Thanks in advanced,
Flor

If it came with Snow Leopard, you can revert - but you have to erase your drive, so make a backup of your files first.
Then, insert the SL install disk, hold C key while restarting. Go past languages; then choose Disk Utility from Utilities. Choose erase. After erasing, SL will be installed. Update with Software Update and port back your files.
Note: the Mail program was changed significantly and you cannot simply revert - the two versions are not compatible. You'd need to extract whatever emails you need from the Lion version or, easier, simply resend those emails to yourself and don't check Mail/open them until after you're reinstalled Snow Leopard.

Is it possible to install Lion on the second hard disk on my Mini (2010) Snow Leopard Server, and switch between Lion and Snow Leopard? I like those voices Lion has in speech.

Is it possible to install Lion on the second hard disk on my Mini (2010) Snow Leopard Server, and switch between Lion and Snow Leopard? I like those voices Lion has in speech.

When baltwosaid NO emphatically, that was described as CORRECT ANSWER. Ditto in the caeses of the radically different answers from Camelotand Matt Clifton
Could it be that CORRECT ANSWER needs better defining by Apple?
That apart, yes, switching might involve rebooting. About the voices, well, I was the other day adding voice to a commentary in a video I was working on. There's only American English accent in SL — Lion I believe has British ones as well.
Why not, I wondered, try to install Lion purely for academic interest, maybe with an SD card (Sandisk Ultra II, 16GB) as Tom Nelson says is possible at http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Perform-A-Clean-Install-Of-Os-X- Lion-On-Your-Mac.htm

Exporting OS X Mail from Mountain Lion to Snow Leopard

After upgrading to Mountain Lion, I partitioned my iMac HD to have two partitions: Macintosh HD has Mountain Lion; I reinstalled Snow Leopard on Macintosh HD 2. Best part: you can access your user-created files from EITHER disk partition. But not so OS X Mail. I wanted to revert to Snow Leopard, since I don't like the iOS-like Mountain Lion (swipe THIS!), but Mail was a problem since all my Snow Leopard Mail was successfully migrated over to Mountain Lion during upgrade. But I think I found a way to Export Mail from ML to (a clean install of) SL.
Try this:
1. Open Mail in ML. For each folder you wish to have back in SL, Export it to your ML Desktop as an .mbox file. Depending on the folder size, this can take from a few seconds to several minutes. You'll see an .mbox icon for the particular folder on your Desktop. If the word "partial" appears between the folder name and the .mbox suffix, wait a few moments for the Export to complete, at which time the word "partial" will disappear. E.g., for a folder named "Mary", if it's a huge one, the icon will first appear as "Mary.partial.mbox"; when the Export is done, you'll see "Mary.mbox".
2. When you've Exported all your desired folders as above, you can exit ML and re-start your Mac in SL. Open Mail in Snow Leopard, and once again, for each file you just Exported in ML to the Desktop there, select "Import Data From Apple Mail" and choose the folder from the Desktop in ML to which your mboxes were Exported. When the Import starts, you can see via a progress bar how far along it is. When done, you'll see a new folder in your SL Mail called "Import"; click on it to reveal the folder you just Imported!
3. Then drag the folder you just Imported out of the Import folder to "On My Mac" in SL Mail; you can then delete the Import folder.
4. Repeat until all your folders are where you want them (in SL).
5. When you have time, go back into ML and clear all those .mbox files from your Desktop.
There MAY be an easier way, but this is what worked for me.

The iOS view vs classic view in Mail is not the problem; I've already configured for classic view.
Mountain Lion itself is.
My short list (to date) of crappy Mountain Lion behavior; items marked with a double asterisk (**)represent the worst of Mountain Lion for me.
** No up/down arrows in scroll bar slider;
Expose` not as easy to navigate as in Snow Leopard;
Mail does not request passwords for either receive or send;
No "Save Draft" icon in Mail compose window (workaround: use command-s);
"Save As" selection missing in most app menus;
No separate Search window in Safari (workaround: use Firefox or Opera);
** Can't export Mail from Mountain Lion into Snow Leopard if downgrading (I compiled this list before I stumbled on the method in this thread, but I'd prefer to effect this with Unix symbolic links);
iWork 09 seems to have "circled the wagons" re compatibility with MS Office or LibreOffice (workaround: just use Libreoffice);

IMac 2011 Lion to Snow Leopard if needed?

Hi all.
I've posted in another discussion about my gradual move over from PC to Mac and the possibility of dual booting but this thought occurred to me. I'm now looking at getting an iMac after using a borrowed mini for a few weeks but finding that multiple monitors/keyboards etc are getting in the way. Plus I need the floorspace the PC is taking up so KVMs and the like aren't really an option.
Anyway, I don't know where Apple are up to at the minute with their hardware/software combinations but if I were to buy a new 27" iMac tomorrow (I'm not: not THAT soon anyway) would it come with Snow Leopard and Snow Leopard installation discs? Would it have Lion preinstalled? If it DID would it come with any discs at all? I believe the recovery partition would handle that part of things (dead HDD notwithstanding) so my suspicion is that no recovery media would be included.
Now, what if I REALLY didn't like Lion or found it had too many problems with my other hardware (I currently have a Lacie NAS drive for example!!) is there any way I could replace Lion with Snow Leopard? Would a retail boxed version, which I think is 10.6.3 have the necessary drivers or at least adequate ones to boot and run Software Update? Would the install disc that came with the MacMini work? My first thought is no it wouldn't. Am I right in thinking the installation discs that ship with a machine are model specific? Would an iMac preinstalled with Lion even be capable of downgrading (we can discuss whether Snow Leopard is a downgrade or not another time)
Anyway, all suggestions welcome as long as they are clean.
Edit before posting: Having said all that if the rotten AppleTV/iTunes keeps losing Home Share connection and kicking me out after 10 minutes of watching a movie then I might just stay a PC user and sell the Apple stuff that isn't working to some unsuspecting numpty. Might just go over to THAT discussion in a minute and add my voice to the ones having issues.......

I suspect the person buying your equipment would be no more a numpty than the original purchaser. Ive been using Lion for some time now and it has frankly no more problems than any other newly introduced software/operating system.
I went through the Windows/PC to Apple a few years ago after much deliberation (and time wasting) I am glad I did it and would not go back. Hving said that I still have a Dell XPS Laptop that is purely used to run Quicken (Windows 7) and nothing else. I could do this with Paralells or bootcamp, but at the moment I see no point. Make the jump to Apple you will probably not regret it. Your wallet might.
My Apple TV works perfectly unless my wireless network is playing up and I suspect Apple cannot do much about that.

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