Quick Q about Intel Chips

Hey guys,
I know theres alot of debate weather or not it's even worth switching to the new 64bit chipsets when they come out, but just for peace of mind I have a few Q's.
1. Yonah's don't support 64-Bit right?
2. Since Yonah's are saudered on, would it be poccible to pay to have Apple replace my logic board and chipset with the new ones? Would older ones even be compatible (i.e the other hardware in the machine)
3. Also, when new versions of OSX come out (namley the upcoming leapord) do we have to purchase them? Or would they offer a software update to upgrade to the newest version?
This is my first mac, so I'm just curious as to the inner workings of the computers/software etc etc.
Any/all help is much appreciated. Thanks

1) Right, Yonah is not 64-bit
2) Apple will not do any upgrade for you other than repairs. It is not practical to upgrade the logic boards after purchase of your Mac.
3) The upcoming OSX 10.5 Leopard will support 32 and 64-bit processors.
Regards,

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