Quick Question MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI

Hey guys,i am new to this forums just needed some help, i am about to purchase a:
AMD 64 3000 VENICE
LEDTEK 6600 GT PCI EXRESS GDDR3
CORSAIR VALUESELECT 1GB RAM DUAL CHANNEL
MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI
EPOWER 450 WATT PSU
i was wondering woud i need to update the bios 1st or will the stock bios that comes with the motherboard will work with the venice. I am getting all these parts from Zip Zoom Fly, accept the PSU. Thanks for your help.

Quote from: Dream_true on 28-June-05, 08:14:40
Only BIOS 1.4 and above support Venice & San Diego. However BIOS 1.4 has shut-down issue with RAID. It is suggested that you let your reseller help you flash BIOS to the latest version 1.5. After flashing BIOS, Loading Optimized defaults is needed of course. Good Luck!
Support new features in that cpuid yes. But that is not the same as you are not able to boot/post your system
with an earlier bios .
I booted up a venice on a K8N Neo2 with an aged 1.3 bios (with no venice SD support) just fine .
If the bios supports 90nm cpu it will post .
New CPUID added means :
Shown on post (display)
And e.g new model spesific features (like e.g SSE3 ) enabled .
Use the CPUID instruction to properly identify the processor.
• Determine the processor type, stepping, and available features by using functions 0000_0001h
and 8000_0001h of the CPUID instruction.
• Boot-up display - The processor name should be displayed according to the processor name string
defined in CPUID Guide for the AMD Athlon™ 64 and AMD Opteron™ Processors, order#
25481.
Chapter 12 , Bios and Kernel developers quide for athlon 64 . 26094.PDF

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1. After the PC POSTs and before the WinXP loading screen, there is a long delay (about 25-30 seconds) where the PC does nothing. No hard disk activity or anything, just sits there on a blank screen. Can anyone help with as to what might be causing this problem?
First, are you raiding drives? It seems you are not, so my next question is did you load the drivers off the floppy disk? For sata drives that are not raided, this is an unnecessary step that has caused systems to hang at startup.-solution- reformat without loading these drivers.
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2. Im using a WD 120Gb SATA hard drive, connected to SATA port 3. Using the 'speed test' tool that is provided under the Nvidia Serial ATA controller, I receive a burst speed rate of 69.9mb / sec and a sustained speed of 52.4mb / sec. This falls far below the claimed 150mb / sec. Is there anything I can do to improve this??
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3. In terms of actual system performance its more or less identical to when I had the K8V. I've read in a few reviews that the nForce3 mobo's are faster than the VIA variety. Again is there something I can do to improve this or am I just a gullible mofo?
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>>Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all?
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=28e8b34c11c189f3cf4fd87517f09849&topic=76872.msg541977#msg541977
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It is the gold one with the MSI Logo on it
yes
I fitted a vantec cca1b to my chipset. What I have found is that ensuring good airflow in the case (2x120mm fans 1 in base Input 1 top rear exhaust) ensures that the warm air cleared from the chipset & CPU is removed rather than standing in the case. I proved this almost by accident while changing cases at Xmas, from a full tower to a mid tower. until i had the 120mm's case fans in place my chipset was about 40C against the 33C now.
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