Quicksilver 733 and Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB

My dad just purchased a new iMac for himself and he's given his older Quicksilver 733 to my nephews. I'm trying to setup this Mac so the kids can use it to play games like Battlefield 1942, Command & Conquer, Star Wars Galatic Battleground, etc.
The Quicksilver has 1.12 GBs of RAM and a new 350 GB Seagate SATA hard drive with controller. I just installed a flashed Radeon 9800 Pro w/ 128MB of VRAM, but for some reason the computer still seems sluggish.
I'm currently running Mac OS X 10.3.9. I also noticed that in the ATI Utility shows the Radeon 9800 Pro's profile, but it doesn't indicate any refresh rates, which is odd. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Kelly

I also noticed that in the ATI Utility shows the Radeon 9800 Pro's profile, but it doesn't indicate any refresh rates, which is odd.
You will only have refresh rate options with VGA monitors.
DVI monitors all default to approx. 60Hz.

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Hello, I purchase a radeon 9800 pro 128mg, I have a mac G4 (Double mirrors) I am replacing the old Radeon 9800 pro 128mb. I am using 10.4 TIGER. I installed the card and I am still getting a black screen. my monitor works on my g4 powerbook desktop Help?

Question #1
Hello, I purchase a Radeon 9800 pro 128mb from ebay. I own a mac G4 ( double mirror doors) I am using tiger10.4 I am replacing my old radeon 9800 pro 128mb with one from ebay. I installed the card properly but I am still getting a black screen. why? Monitor works on my powerbook G4 laptop.
QUESTIN #2
Can I upgrade my hard drive to a 2tb with the proper PCI card and cable ?

#1, tough to tell, is it using the VGA or DVI output?
#2, yes, if you can find a Mac compatible card.

Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb troubles :\

Hey,
I'm not used to post things on a forum but now I'm getting quite desperate. I've been searching and surfing the net for possible solutions but none worked until now.
Sometimes my v-card's drivers hang, or that's what I think. The image freezes, but the mouse can keep on moving (nothing will react anymore and even when I'm typing this, it happened already 1 times). After that "freeze" of about 2-3 seconds, the screen will "click" like you hear when you change resolution in the display properties. After that, the screen comes back and most of the time, everything is ok, except from the fact that sometimes a window like this (mozilla) is resized to 800*600 or 640*480 size .. (not sure)
But sometimes, the screen goes black after clicking and will never come back, only a reset can help this situation.
And sometimes (rare) the screen begins to show artifacts on the screen (not in games, just windows) and this gets worse and worse until you can't see and have to reset.
When anything of this happens during a game, a recover doesn't seem to be possible at all.
-> this suggests it's a driver problem...
Now I've read about fastwrites (not available in current bios - but i heard it's available in the new bios which i didn't upgrade yet because i'm a bit afraid of the procedure as I don't have a FAT system nor a win98/ME boot disk and I'm using winXP pro) which I disabled in the catalyst drivers
I've tried to lower the AGP acceleration
I've tried Omega drivers
I've turned on and off the VPU recover
I've checked my PSU - even disconnected everything but v-card, hdd and nic and my PSU (Antec case) can give 16A/28A/35A in 12v/5v/3.33v rails...
A clean install of windows won't help
Direct X version doesn't matter
And all starts after the first catalyst driver installation after the fresh windows install.
Please help,
If you think there's some info missing, don't hesitate to ask, I'm an experience PC user so you can ask me pretty much everything about anything (I think) and I'll followup this post frequently. Anything that can help me find the cause will be appreciated. Until now I didn't want to return the card under warranty because I know I'll have to miss it quite some time then. :(
PC spec:
MSI 6547 (Sis645) Mobo
P4 1.6A (OC'ed or not, doesn't change anything)
Hercules Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb
Windows XP Pro - SP1

i read that the bios update adds the "enable fast write" function, but at what value is it whitout the update ?
if it's enabled by default, then it could be the problem
but i'll look into the site you gave and try to flash the bios tomorrow
i'll post the results and try the card in another pc if it didn't work :\

Can I replace an ATI RADEON 9800 PRO-(256MB)-MAC EDITION with Mac ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb Video Card For G4/G5

Hi,
I am trying to help a friend whose graphics card has bust.
The old one was an ATI RADEON 9800 PRO-(256MB)-MAC EDITION.
I've been looking on ebay and it seems a lot cheaper to get a Mac ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb Video Card For G4/G5.
Can I just swap them over? The connectors are not identical according to the photographs.
Thanks.

I'd like to thank everyone for all the really useful information in this thread. It helped me solve a similar problem, which I'll describe here briefly in case it helps someone else.
I have a 2004/5 dual 2 Ghz PowerPC G5 and an Apple Cinema HD display linked, as I later found out, with the now defunct ADC connector. The display suddenly started to look like that scene in The Matrix, when code falls like rain down the screen, and I worked out I needed to replace my Radeon 9800 pro video card (I discovered the board was blue when I removed a thick layer of dust).
I took japamac's excellent advice and bought a Geforce 6800 Ultra from the linked eBay seller in Hong Kong, who delivered it extremely quickly, along with the cables to plug it into the DVD drive power source and a CD with installation instructions. It was only then that I realised the card had two DVI connectors and my display needed ADC (I hadn't understood the difference).
eBay came to the rescue again with a seller who had a secondhand DVI to ADC adapter, which Apple produced when it phased out ADC about six years ago but no longer sells. It has its own power supply and looks like a large version of the Mac laptop power cables - and has added signifcantly to the pile of spaghetti under my desk.
Installing the Geforce 6800 Ultra is fiddly, and a bit scary if you're not used to delving into the insides of a Mac, but the instructions were clear and illustrated with useful photos. The video cable has four connectors. Two fit into the end of the card, the other two (linked in a Y shape) form a bridge between the DVD/superdrive and its power cable. You have to remove the DVD drive, unplug it, and then plug one of the two Y video card connectors into the DVD power cable and the other into the DVD drive itself. Then you replace the DVD drive, plug the two remaining cable connectors to the video card and ease it into the old card's AGP slot.
Finally, with the G5 reassembled, plug the adapter's DVI connection into the back of the card, plug the Cinema Display ADC cable into the adapter block, plug the adapter's USB cable into the G5 (this enables the the USB ports on the back of the display to work), and power up.
At the time of writing, the display has been up and running for a couple of hours and all seems fine.
Thanks again everyone for all your help and advice. If it wasn't for communities like this, it would be virtually impossible to solve problems with old but still serviceable Macs.

Radeon 9800 Pro (128MB) on G4 with lots of artifacts

Hi there,
I recently bought a radeon 9800 pro (mac version) over ebay. I put it into a d1ghz (quicksilver with 1.5GB of Ram. Everything seems to work fine, however, the screen flickers ever so slightly after the ripple effect in the dashboard. Yet this is not really what bugs me: Any game (and probably other applications as well) which uses Core Image produces huge artifacts. There are just random screen-filling bits sticking out the ground...
How do I get rid of this? I already checked all the connections, ran software update, downloaded the most recent drivers and tried downclocking the graphics card.... (I also think that I cleared NV- and PRAM, but I am not sure... )
What am I forgetting?
Thanks already, dl33

Hi. I had the same problem, but it was a 500 mhz Sawtooth. I was told it was either a power issue or a heat issue. So I upgraded the power supply from 237 watts to 400 watts. It seemed to help, but it started doing the same thing. After wasting a lot of time and money with power supplies and soldering and adding fans, etc, I looked at the fan on the card. Like you, I bought mine used. The guy said it worked flawlessly. When I first got it and experienced the problems, I checked the fan. It wasn't the stock fan, was a unit from Arctic Cooling. The fan was spinning, but it said that air should be blown out the exhaust, and I felt none. Upon closer inspection it turned out that the fan was defective. It was constantly speeding up/slowing down, and it was supposed to be a single speed fan...not good. But by the time I figured that out, the card had been fried. I got a new unit from Arctic Cooling, but the card no longer works.
Might want to check the fan and make sure it's spinning. Your power supply should be sufficient since I believe the QS's had 344 watt PSU's.
One thing I forgot to mention was that underclocking it usually helped. I had to underclock it a good amount, though. I believe it was around 20%.
Hope this helps.
Matt

875P INF Drivers and Radeon 9800 Pro All in Wonder

Please help; I am at my absolute wits end. I will try to be brief but I doubt that there is much chance that it will be. Basically I have narrowed things down to this. My video card is a Radeon 9800 Pro All in Wonder 128mb version. My motherboard is a MSI 875p. Lately I realized (long story not important) that I did not have the inf drivers from intel installed for my mobo. This seemed to make sense as to why I was having display issues in games; IE Morrowind. So I installed them, and when I rebooted I was pleasantly surprised to find that the monitor would simply turn off right before I could get to the login. Now I have reinstalled windows several times and installed several different combinations of intel inf updates with different version of the Catalyst drivers. Pretty much, if I have the INF drivers installed, I will not be able to get into windows. However, if I don't have them installed (like right now) normal things, like typing this message, I can do, but I can't play any games . From what I have read I am thinking that it is one of a few things. A, it has something to do with the AGP driver/ and voltage setting things. Many people were talking about issues like this with the 9600, and 9800 pro (not all in wonder). So there might be some bios settings that would help; though I have no knowledge of how such things work. B, is that the card is just a dud and I should just give it up and try to send it back in. I am afraid of option B mainly because I know it will take forever, and then I have no comp, and because of dreaded option C. The motherboard is simply incompatabile with the Radeon 9800 Pro All in Wonder 128mb version. Please let me know if anyone has had similiar problems, if I am up a creek, or how to set the bios... Here is my system specs; I will check back to see if I need to add anything. Thanks a bunch.
p4 2.6gigahertz
MSI 875P
1gig ram kingston hyper x
120gig western digital harddrive
21' Viewsonic
Radeon 9800 Pro All in Wonder 128mb
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum
Antec Performance Plus SOHO File Server Case ATX12V
(There doesn't seem to be anything in the Bios updates that will help me luckily, because I want to avoid flashing it if I can.)

Okay, I will try to answer any questions as they came. First off, Windows XP Professional is what I have. I tried to install the video drivers with both the inf update from intel, and the one from MSI installed. Again it crashes at login screen with any sort of inf update (ie agp drivers) installed. Radeon is running at 4x with fast writes disabled, however there is one interesting thing I learned Another thing to note about the problem is when I got to the ATI SMARTGART advanced settings little program (within the ati folder under program files) I can see that PCI write, and read are both on, and AGP read and write are both off. I am not a genius in relation to computers, but how could this card be acting as a PCI card, when it is installed in a AGP slot? Is this because since I don't have the inf update installed, so as far as the computer knows that agp slot is a PCI one? A further thing to note is that whenever I install the video card driver for my All in Wonder 9800 Pro, is that it installs two cards from what device manager shows. One is "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES" the other is ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES - Secondary". According to device manager they are both located on PCI Bus 1, device 0. Disabling one or the other does not seem to make difference. A final thing to note is that I took an All in Wonder 9000 out of a friends comp and put it into my with the inf update installed; it booted windows and detected it fine. Does this mean my card is a dud and needs to be sent in for repairs, or is there some kind of voltage issue? As for other PCI cards, I have a modem that is not even installed at:
PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 3, device 1, function 0)
Sound card at PCI Slot 3 (PCI bus 3, device 2, function 0)
Again Video Card (PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0)
The onboard Gigabit Ethernet is at (PCI bus 2, device 1, function 0)
Another thing that might help clue someone in is that I have
Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Listed 5 times; IRQ's are 23, 16, 19, 18, 16
The IRQ of my All-In-Wonder is also 16 if this means anything. No conflicts listed of course. Another note is that my onboard ethernet's irq is 18, same as one of the usb host controllers, and it works fine...
I can't think of anything else to add, let me know what you think. Thanks a ton so far guys.

Digital Audio G4 and Radeon 9800 Pro

Has anyone had the same fuss w/a Digital Audio and ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Edition? Been through about 5 cards (lost count somewhat) and constantly getting a display of the video card (with its power connector flashing red) on a black screen. Only by opening the box and reconnecting the power connections, and sometimes reseating the card, do I get successful results, with the Mac booting properly.
No other card (others that I use do not require an additional power connector like the 9800 does) seems to have this problem; all boot properly.
There is a Sonnet 1.8 Ghz Dual CPU upgrade, 2 internal hard drives, a raid card, and FW 800 and FW 400/USB2 cards, but additional power connections for those have been unplugged. I'm good with letting any external devices run on their own power.
Thanks much, to anyone that may have a suggestion or a solution.

Hi-
With regards to the connector graphic, this invariably means that there isn't power connected.
State the obvious, but, have you tried pulling power from a different connector? Maybe try a new extension........ Molex connectors can work loose from the cap, and slide back when attaching to a device. This would give the appearance of being connected, though in reality, otherwise.
Have you tried without any of the PCI cards installed? I wouldn't want to remove the processor, either, though the dual does pull some power at boot. The DA PSU, however, should be able to handle both the processors and the 9800..... unless the PSU has a weak 12v/5v/3.3v rail....
Pulling the PCI cards will clear up whether or not the problem is with power in the PCI bus.
As for posting a picture, you need to host the picture at a site like Photobucket or Imageshack. Then, place a link (produced at the host site) in your thread.

K7N2 and Radeon 9800 Pro Prob..

I work at a computer store in Killeen texas and am having an issue with the K7n2 Mobo. When we use a Radeon 9800 pro from ATI, we do not get video on every boot. The system will go itno windows but will not show a post screen or windows. This only happend with version 3.4 of the bios. We downgraded to version 3.3 And the card worked perfect. Their is a new 3.5 Bios. Was wondering if I should upgrade to this bios or Leave it at 3.3. By the way....We tried three other K7n2 boards and two different Raddy9800s. We also had a similar prob with the All in wonder 8500. And again version 3.3 of the bios worked fine. Any Ideas....

leave it at 3.3 as its not changed
but its not all boards and all ati its wierd

ACD 23 and Radeon 9800 Pro - strange behaviour with color profiles

Hello,
I have just purchased a 23" Cinema Display. The first one I got in the store exhibited ghosting effects that ceased to exist after a few hours (self healing effect?) and I also noticed after a while using it, that the left side and especially the lower corner were darker than the rest.
So I took it back yesterday and got a new one which is close to perfect. Neither of them had any dead pixels! I am very pleased with it and knocking on wood, hope that it stays that way;-)
My hardware: The display is hooked up to a G4 MDD dual 1,25 with a Radeon 7000 pci card and a Radeon 9800 Pro AGP card. The latter card was put in for the Radeon 9000 pro that came with the computer. So far I have been running a dual display setup with a 21 and a 17 inch CRT.
Now comes my problem:
I calibrated the cinema display hooked up to the 9800 Pro with the eye-one and the eye-one match software. The profile I got was not a smooth curve, but a zigzag curve. Of course that is by no means usable for anything.
By numerous trial and error attempts, I did find out the following:
- If I calibrate with the eye-one, I can have only one monitor hooked up to the computer, otherwise I will always get zigzag curves in the profile.
- If I look at numerous testcharts(greyscale, etc.) with the newly created profile, all looks very good and in specs. As soon as I hook up the second monitor again, something changes on the cinema display, even though the profile has not changed. My testcharts look a bit contrastier and on the greyscale the two darkest and lightest fields do not seperate anymore.
Rebooting does not help either. As soon as I unplug the second monitor, everything looks perfect again.
I know that this is an unusual issue but I hope that someone here has a clue to where the problem could be. I have tested so much and do not find a solution.
I will call the apple hepldesk, but I already know what they will say:"The display is working as designed. Your issue has to do with the graphics card and that is a third party product. You have to call ATI for support".
So, maybe I can get some help here.
Cheers
Peter

Hi Bryanus,
Did you have an ADC port on your old card? Do you still have your old card? If this is the case, you can verify that the new card is implicated by re-installing your old card and seeing whether the problem repeats itself.
If you only have DVI on your old card, you would have to borrow an adaptor, but then you are relying on the adaptor to function properly.
If the problem doesn't repeat itself with your old card being used, then the new card is the culprit, in which case I'd ask to have it replaced, or get a refund.
If the problem does repeat itself with the old card, then you might want to consider other possible contributing factors such as the physical state of the monitor connection (dirty or tarnished contacts, bent pins etc.).
If the problem repeats itself with a new (replacement) card, you could add AGP slot issues to the above paragraph.
"Sleep" in an Apple Mac often generates issues with third party hardware, so your primary consideration that it is probably the card is (to me anyway) still the most likely.
All the best with the diagnosis!
Cheers!
Karl

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb or 256mb for PowerMac G4 MDD

I hane just a bought a PowerMac G4 MDD dual core 1.25 GHZ. I t has the old ATI Radeon 9000 pro. I am definately going to buy a 9800 Pro. But, I would like to know wether or not to spend the extra $70 on the 256mb card, rather than pay only $90 for the 128MB edition. I am not going to be doing anything CRAZY like photoshoping, or final cut pro or anything like that, bu I am going to be playing the casual 2002-2004 game here and there (Half-Life 2). And, I would also be running emulators. So, I have compared the two cards and have not noticed anything different as far as specs go. Except for 128MB more ram. I am on a budget, but would like the extra performance.
Thanks for repsonding,
Tanner (armadaskier4123)

There is virtually NO performance difference between the 256 MB version and the 128 MB version of the 9800 Pro.
Even with a digital monitor of 23" at full, native resolution of 1920x1200, the 256 MB version shows NO benefit.
In actual tests, the 256 MB version shows slightly slower, but mostly equal.
IMHO, it is NOT worth an extra $70.
See my Graphics Benchmarks pages and decide for yourself:
http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/All_Things_PPC.html
If a G4 is a Digital Audio, Quicksilver or MDD, the 7800 GS is worth the money for use in Tiger.
For Leopard, a Geforce 6800 GT may be better due to better driver support and OpenGL performance.
The 6800 GT, sadly, cannot be used in a MDD.
Still, the 7800 GS does perform very well in Leopard, and is the best choice for a MDD.
If a G4 is a Sawtooth or Gigabit Ethernet machine, the 7800 GS (or the 6800 GT) cannot be used.

Difference between Radeon 9650 and Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Edition?

I was considering upgrading to a 9800 Pro Mac edition to replace my Radeon 9650. Would there be much of a performance improvement?
Should I go for the X800XT?
Thanks
Andrew

Hi Curnsie,
Realize this thread is "answered" already, but, actually, there is a good bit of difference between the 9650 and the 9800. Have a look here:
http://www.barefeats.com/rad9650.html
Cheers.

865PE Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro Graphics Problems

Hello!
I just got done building a new system last week, and I've noticed some issues when playing games. Problems arise when the "Performance Mode" is set to anything higher than 'Fast' in the BIOS. I get a ton of artifacts when playing games. I also get artifacts when the Dynamic Overclocking feature is turned on. I'm using the latest Catalyst drivers, running on XP SP1 w/ all patches installed. My guess is that my graphics card doesn't like the boost in speed. BUT, I bought the VisionTek 9800 Pro because I read several reviews on it that said it was stable when overclocked. Anybody have problems like this? I saw an earlier post stating something about OEM 9800's being fakes, but this was a retail version ordered from CompUSA. Any advice, tips, comments would be greatly appreciated... It's driving me NUTS!

I've got the Built By ATI Radeon 9800 Non-Pro and I've set Perf Mode to Slow and DOT to Disabled. This enabled me to OC the Proc stably.
I've played SWG with all terrain and video settings to the MAX and have had only one problem where the game itself crashed. But that was an anomaly not the norm.
I personally would recommend icing perfmod and DOT. They seem to be good marketing ideas, but don't gain much in practice.

Huge artifacts with PowerMac G5 and Radeon 9800 Pro (Could be 10.4.11)

Hi!
During installation, my graphics got all screwed up. You can see a screenshot of what's going on at this link:
http://www.gchoquette.com/files/Picture2.png
I think you guys can see it too. I'm actually writing on the defective computer, so it's hard for me to see what's in the screenshot.
Here's what I did so far. I tried removing half of the RAM first, then the second half, the problem persist. I rebooted on a different system, it's still there (so not software). I tried Hardware Test utility, it says everything is fine. I unplugged the Video Card, cleaned it a little along with the connectors, nothing.
Here's what we know. It happened DURING the update to 10.4.11 (not after I rebooted). I'm pretty sure I can take screenshots of it, so it's not simply in the connectors to the monitors. It happens on both my monitors (also when I unplug one of them).
You guys have any idea of what I can do or what is going on?
Thanks!

I have a flashed 9800 pro and I've noticed that if I turn the computer on before the monitor, I'l get nearly identical artifacts. If I turn the monitor on before the computer all's well. Maybe its for flashed cards only. Good luck.

MEGA 180 and Radeon 9800 Pro/XT

Haven't posted in a while, just wanted to spread a little good. Having a MEGA 180 is a little limiting with power supply and space issues etc but i've got a cracking setup working here :-)
I bought the MSI RX9800PRO TD128, despite a 300watt power supply warning for the card it works perfectly in the MEGA, but the good news doesn't stop there, the graphics chip is not a standard 9800PRO R350 core, for some reason it has the R360 core from the 9800XT, overclocking is a breeze with the ATI Tool. It comes default with a 378 core - 338 mem setting, I have saved a profile in ATI Tool with the XT settings of 412 core - 365 mem and they work a treat in UT, Q3, Tomb AOD and i've even stressed the card in 3DMark05 for quite some time and it just works, I dare say I could push it even higher but I'm happy getting XT performance for PRO money :-)
Overclocker New Zealand have even managed to get it up to an insane 479 core - 391.5 mem see http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review.php?id=04vga00r9800promsi00000r9800pro0105
There is also another great thread all about this card at http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showindex.php?t=118366&highlight=rx9800
The ATI Tool is quite good, i've even created a profile for 2D that is underclocked for when I'm in windows so it keeps my system a little cooler with the XT settings set to kick in when I start up 3D, coupled with a Barton 2800+, 1Gb of PC2700 and the 120Gb Maxtor with 8Mb of cache and it is all just working well together, Win XP Pro with SP2 is rock solid, well it is for me anyway, :-)
Couple of things to know.
Win XP finds the RX as an XT, so no need to try and flash the bios, it isn't an XT PCB anyway, just an XT core.
As there is no heat sensor for the core ATIs Overdrive isn't available but you can get the ATI Tool from loads of places on the net, here is a link anyway http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
happy at last :-)
J.

Dont know if this will help but I had the same problem awhile back with an Asus A7N8X deluxe that I built for a friend. Sometimes it would initiate the monitor and others it would not. This drove me nuts for about a week, I tried everything that I could think of. This is what I did to remedy the situation somewhat.
Go to the ATI website and download the catalyst removal software and also download the Catalyst 3.7 driver from there "older" drivers page.
Now boot into windows and remove the ATI drivers and control panel from add remove programs, DO NOT REBOOT!
Run the ATI driver removal tool.
Shut down the machine, REMOVE THE POWER CORD,clear cmos, set the jumper for CPU fsb to 100mhz (safemode) and REMOVE your ram. Boot the machine, you will get a series of beeps indicating that the memory is not installed. Shut the machine down, REMOVE THE POWER CORD, Put the memory back in, reset the CPU fsb jumper to its normal position, and clear Cmos again. (this series of actions also solved my no display issue on my Mega 180 using the onboard graphics).
Now boot into bios and set it up the way you want then boot into windows and when windows tells you that it has found new hardware do not let it automatically install anything (cancel it). Now run the 3.7 catalyst setup and follow the instructions.
I am not sure why this worked to solve the issue but it did for me on both my Mega and the above mentioned system. I think there may be some odd conflict with the Nforce chipset and the ATI drivers and or Card bios.
Why it worked on my Mega is a mystery, I am using the onboard graphics and would have the system turn on with fans working and all but would have no display out.

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro and kt4 ultra

Hello
i was curious to know of any problems with the Kt4 ultra motherboard and the Radeon 9800 pro??
my system constantly crashes back to the desktop, or completely locks when i play Command & Conquer Renegade.
there are also some "misdrawn?" walls in the game also,...
i have all the latest drivers for the motherboard and the card,(including the released today catalyst drivers from ati.com)
i have also tried the drivers from driverheaven.net, but same thing happens,...
this is truly aggreviating...
some system specs:
kt4 ultra
antec 380 true ps
2500+ barton running at 11.5*173 @ 30c idle, 33c full load
corsair 2*256 3200LL
built by ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb
ive read where you can increase the agp voltage to try and fix the problem...and i also saw where one guy was just going to buy another motherboard b/c of the issues...
any help is truly appreciated
thx

FWIW, in case anybody is reading this thread in future and has problems with this Board and this card, I can report that I have now(at my second attempt) successfully installed a Radeon 9800 Pro on MY kt4 uLTRA motherboard.
As noted above, I purchased a new Antec True Power unit, prior to installing for a 2nd time. I am not sure whether that was necessary, but it certainly didn't hurt. The successful installation process was as follows:
1) Download the latest catalyst drivers from ATI
2) Set monitor to lowest possible standard (640 x 480, 16 colours if possible - in my case my digital monitor could not be set lower than 800 x 600)
3) Uninstall drivers for existing video card
4) Replace video card
5) Install ATI drivers
6) restore settings on monitor to maximum.
At that point, after restarting the computer, I had a CLI.exe error. After Googling for this problem, I discovered that I needed to download Net 1.1 from Microsoft. After downloading and installing that additional program, Radeon 9800 Pro is now working perfectly.

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