QuickTime in OS 9 Classic environment

I have bought a commercial CD that contains words and still pictures which was made to run on pre-OS X software. Is it possible to download an earlier version of QuickTime so that I can view this CD in the Classic environment? I wouldn't want to do anything to disturb the proper running of my up-to-date QuickTime Pro in Tiger.

If you have set up Classic, it includes the QuickTime Player. The downloadable versions of QuickTime for Mac OS 9 all require Mac OS 9 or Classic to work; you can get the most recent version here.
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How do you empty the trash in the Classic Environment?

There was a large file on my desktop, called ".tif" (no filename, just ".tif" and nothing else). It was apparently created by the VueScan scanning software. It was not an image I asked it to scan, it's just some sort of test image. It only appears to applications running in Classic. It does not appear to OSX applications, and the Find command in the OSX Finder can't find it.
Using Sherlock 2, running under Classic, I was able to find this file, but the only thing I could do with it in Sherlock 2 was move it to the Trash. So now, it's sitting in the Trash of the Classic environment, but OSX doesn't see it, the Trash in OSX is empty.
There is no "Empty Trash" command in Sherlock 2, or any other Classic program that I have. All of the third-party utility programs that I have for OS 9, such as Norton Utilities, DiskWarrior, etc., won't run under Classic. When I try to run them, I simply get a message, "That application is not supported by Classic."
So, how can I get rid of this file? It is only visible to the Classic environment. Are there any utility programs that run under Classic that can cause the Classic environment Trash to be emptied?
Thank you

Hi, Bob. I have no way to replicate your problem and test this suggestion on my Mac, but I'm confident that it will work. Download File Buddy 8 and use its Find command to search for a file whose name is .tif, including both visible and invisible files in the search. (The "." at the start of the file's name makes it invisible in OS X). Once you find it, select it in File Buddy's hit list — make very sure you're selecting the right file and only that file — and use the Delete command in FB's File menu — not the Trash button in FB's toolbar. "Delete" will remove the file instantly and irrevocably, no matter where it resides, ignoring the usual rigmarole associated with the Trash.
File Buddy is to the Finder what Photoshop is to QuickTime PictureViewer, or Word is to SimpleText. Anything FB can't do to or with your files (and much of what it can), you should be scared of doing. But when you need it, there's no substitute.

Is it possible to run the Classic Environment INSIDE Rosetta on a MacBook Pro (Early 2008) with Leopard?

Hi there,
Rosetta works up until Snow Leopard. The Classic Environment works up until a late version of Tiger. Rosetta makes apps. built for PowerPC Macs work. The Classic Environment make apps. for Mac OS 9 work on Mac OS X for PowerPC Macs.
Would it consequently be possible to run the Classic Environment INSIDE Rosetta?
I have read https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2292, but I am still unconvinced unless there is a flaw to my logic. At any rate, I subscribe to the Churchillian adage of never giving in unless the forces of common sense and doctrine dictate otherwise.
If it won't work, then why?
Best Regards,
Stefan

Hi there, Klaus1, BDAqua and a brody,
Thank you ever so much for your kind replies! (I tried giving you the 10 pts. of 'Correct Answers' to each of you, but unfortunately it was only possible for Klaus1, so the points were distributed between him and BDAqua even though you were all helpful!)
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Classic environment is no longer supported.

I am a pc user switching...
I have some old DVDs, vol 1 an vol II. Vol II is the newest, and have the "built for OS X" logo on it, but both are old. They install fine under windows XP.
The MAC installation is to drap a folder, open the folder, and start the program (no installer dmg like I have seen elsewhere). However, you then get the error message:
you can't open the application "Hemera Photo-Objects" because the Classic environment is no longer supported.
I have boot camp/parrallels, so I realize I could access them that way, but they work so poorly it would be a pain.
I have no idea what the error message means, is there a way around it? The mfg no longer support mac that I can see.
Bob

As Baltwo already mentioned, Classic is the name for Mac OS 9 running under Mac OS X in emulation. Apps for Mac OS 9 are different than Mac OS X apps. In the early days of Mac OS X, most people still used a lot of Mac OS 9 apps, so there was an emulator built-in (called, you guessed it, "Classic").
As Mac hardware has moved to the Intel chips (Mac OS 9 ran on PowerPC chips), it has become more and more difficult to support Classic, and less and less useful, since most people don't use Mac OS 9 apps anymore. So, recent hardware doesn't support Classic, and Leopard dropped all support for Classic.
There are third-party solutions, though they're not going to be easy to use, primarily due to the need to find an old Mac ROM image. I have been unsuccessful at finding one to download... old links are gone now. If this software is something you really need, it might be easier to visit eBay and buy a cheap older Mac.

Is there any way to access files from the Classic environment to my iMac running on Leopard (10.5.8)?

Is there any way to access files from the Classic environment to my iMac running on Leopard (10.5.8)?

Sorry, no.

How do I install 9.1 for Classic Environment?

Hi, this question might sound dumb because I'm not familiar with OS X.
I have a 800 Mhz G4 Quicksilver running 10.1.3. What I want to do is install 9.1 onto the Mac so I can have the whole classic environment shebang.
I was told that you can partition the hard drive, but The Disk Utility says it can't partition a disk with the running system on it. <---my hard drive. I've tried holding down c at startup, that doesn't work, I selected the 9.1 disk as the start up disk, that resulted in the beloved blinking question mark over the system folder on startup. I have a good feeling it's a pretty simple process, I just have no idea how to go about it.
Peace and Love and Happy New Year,
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If you partition the hard drive you are then reformating it and will have to re-install OSX and all your files. Just insert a retail version of 9.1 and install from there. You can then update incrementally to 9.2.2.

How do I install the classic environment?

I have an iMac slot loader that I got for my daughter. I have a retail version of OSX 10.2 installed on it and working fine.
I also have alot of games but they require the Classic Environment.
I have forgotten how to install the Classic environment! I think at one time, I had osX on there and Classic but I don't remember exactly how I got it on there if that was the case.
I have a retail OS 9.?.? but I don't think that is the answer. I am afraid if I boot to that disc and try to install, it will over write my OSX instalation with OS 9. That would prevent her from using the OSX games that I have for her.
I don't mind doing a complete new installation if need be because I have not started installing the games just yet.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hey Glen,
I set these iMacs up all the time. I use a retail 10.3.2 or 10.4.3 installer and a 9.2.2 image or a 9.2.1 iMac dedicated installer to set them up. Archive and install will work for either just make sure to install OS 9 drivers if you format your drive in X extended (journaled).
I do the minimum install in X no language and no printer drivers.
The installer in 9.2.1 is white with a large orange 9 on it.
I have a ton of software for OS 9; Living Books, Kid Pix and Zoombinis being amoung the most popular.
I've made images of the CDs ( actually SMIs ) so the kids don't need the CDs to run the apps. These often get totally messed up.
Actually I have cloners of all these setups on various setups on my MDD G4 and use CCC to clone them onto the target drives. Often I'll have to use an install CD to get it to work anyway. Some of the more stubborn will require an in situ install with the CD.
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How to force Tiger to print doc within Classic environment, not with OSX?

I want to print certain documents using OS9's printing utility within the Classic environment, and NOT using Tiger's standard OSX printing method. How?
I know it is possible because I have two Macs connected to the same printer, and it works on one and not the other. I can't figure out why.
Here are the specifics:
I have a printer, the Ricoh Laser AP2600. Connected to it are two computers:
a PowerBook G4 running 10.4.7, and
an iMac running 10.3.9.
When I print documents from OSX applications, the two computers take the exact same time to print. HOWEVER, when I print from Classic applications, the iMac running 10.3.9 prints very quickly, but the PB running 10.4.7 takes two to three times as long. That's because the iMac prints the document using the old OS9 "Print Monitor" printing utility, and never passes the printing back to Tiger. Whenever I try to print a document from a Classic application on the PB, however, it passes the printing to the standard OSX printing method, which (for some reason) is much slower.
(Sorry if I'm not using the right terminology.)
I checked and double-checked, and as far as I can tell, all the "printer descriptions" and "drivers" and everything else is absolutely identical in both System 9 "Extension" folders on both computers. I installed the exact same Ricoh print-driver packages for OSX and Classic on both machines identically. So -- why does one print quickly within Classic, and the other pass the printing job back to slow OSX?
The specific application that causes this discrepancy is MSWord 5.1a, a very old version that only works under Classic. (I use it a lot because I prefer it to more recent versions of MSWord.)
A secondary, but related, question: Why does printing documents from within the Classic environment go so much more quickly than in OSX? It seems to be one of the few aspects of OSX that's worse than OS9.
So -- how can I make my PB behave like my iMac? Is there some difference between 10.3.9 and 10.4.7 that causes this different behavior? Any hints or suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thanks.

OK, I have finally solved the problem -- mostly.
The trick was to click on the Chooser option called "PSPrinter" -- not LaserWriter 8 or any of the others. I took a chance on that since I knew that the Ricoh 2600 was a PostScript printer. When I clicked on it, and chose "Set up printer," I was able to set up the Ricoh driver. Then, when I tried printing, it worked -- it printed within the Classic environment, not in Tiger. And what a difference!! Under Tiger, a simple page of text takes 45 seconds to process and print. Under Classic, the exact same page processes and prints in 8 seconds! A huge difference. So, I finally got it to work.
The downside is that I can't get it to "stick." If I restart Classic (or the entire computer), the next time I go back to print in MSWord 5.1a (my Classic application), it will have reverted back to the Tiger method of printing. So, the first time I print a page in 5.1a during any session, I have to go to Chooser and select PSPrinter. This adds 15 seconds or so to the process, so printing a single page overall isn't any faster, if you add up all the steps. Subsequent prints all are done quickly in Classic automatically, as long as Classic hasn't restarted. (I can even quit the application and restart it without a problem -- only an OS restart causes it to revert back to Tiger printing.)
So, my basic problem is solved, and I'm fairly satisfied. But I still have two nagging issues that I wouldn't mind answered if anybody knows the answers:
How can I make my Chooser printer selection in Classic "stick" permanently from one restart to the next? Why does it revert to Tiger printing after a restart?
And the fundamental question: why is Classic printing so much faster than Tiger printing? I thought Tiger was supposed to be a "digital hub" that made communicating with peripherals so easy? In most ways it is, but why is printing the one way in which OSX is WORSE than OS9, at least in regards to speed?

I have an iMac 10.8.2. When trying to download a photo attachment from an email I received the following : "You can't open application IPhoto because the classic environment is no longer supported." This occurred on 10/25/12 at about 11PM CST. The iPho

I have an iMac 10.8.2. When trying to download a photo attachment from an email I received the following : "You can't open application IPhoto because the classic environment is no longer supported." This occurred on 10/25/12 at about 11PM CST. The iPhoto icon in both the dock and the application folder is grayed out with the no or do not enter symbol. How can I resolve this so I can access my photos?

I have two iPhoto icons in applications. One is grayed out and has the no symbol, the date of last modification is Oct 25, 2012 11:07pm. The size is 110 KB and kind shows Applic…lassie). When I click on with CMD i it shows:
kind: Application (Classic)
size: 109,677 bytes (111 KB on disk)
Where: / Applications
Created: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:07 PM
Modified: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:07 PM
Version: --
More info: --
Name and extension: iPhoto.app
Hide extension is grayed out and checked
Preview shows a photo I had attempted to save to iPhoto
The second iPhoto icon is also grayed out, but the symbol is an envelope, the date of last modification is Oct 12, 2012 12:09PM. The size is 548 KB and kind is shown as an email message. When I clicked on it with CMD i it shows:
Kind: Email Message
Size: 547,665 bytes (549 KB on disk)
Where: /Applications
Created: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:09 PM
Modified: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:09 PM
Version: not listed
Name & Extension: iPhoto.eml
Hide Extension: checked
Open with: Mail
Preview shows a photo I had attempted to save to iPhoto

I tried to save a video to IPhoto, and then when I tried to open IPhoto it told me I can't open the application because classic environment is no longer supported. What does this mean, and how do I get back all my photos and fix this? thanks.

I tried to save a video to IPhoto, and then when I tried to open IPhoto it told me I can't open the application because classic environment is no longer supported. What does this mean, and how do I get back all my photos and fix this? thanks.

With the amount of information you've provided it's impossible to offer a potential solution. We can't see your computer so we need to know some details of your problem and setup, i.e.:
what version of iPhoto are you using?
what system version are you running?
what fixes have you tried?
where is you library located?
did you apply any updates or upgrades just prior to the problem occurring?
are you running a "managed" or "referenced" library?
what type of Mac?
how much free space on your boot drive?
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Classic Environment documents and Leopard

I am running Tiger on a non-dual-core iMac G5. I have about 300 documents that I created in Classic Environment. I am told that Leopard does not support Classic. I would like to upgrade to
Leopard. (Also, some day I will replace this Mac with a dual core Mac; I am told
dual core does not support Classic.) So how can I upgrade to Tiger now (and later, to dual core) and still use these documents? Details: I originally created these in an old G4, using an old, wonderful Apple word processing program called Greatworks. I migrated them over to my G5. I have opened a handful of them in the G5; they opened in TextEdit. Then, I copied them from TextEdit to Appleworks. So that gave me an Appleworks document. So does that mean that the documents are no longer Classic?...are they now cool and modern, and Tiger will open them, even though they were ONCE Classic? And a dual core mac will open them some day? Also...as I said, I only converted a handful from Classic to Appleworks. The rest of the 300 are still Classic. So I guess BEFORE I upgrade to Tiger, I must convert the rest of them to Appleworks, one at a time? Please help. Thank you.
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Documents are neither "Classic" or "OSX". Documents are files.
The application that you use to create, edit, print, and save are either "Classic" or "OSX".
So your files, even if created in OS8, could be moved to 10.5.2 and opened w/o any girations on your part to make it work. BUT the application that created it in OS8, or OS9 would have to have been updated to work as an OSX application to do so.
In your case, it sounds like they are basic text docs anyway. If TextEdit can open them, you might try just opening them directly with AppleWorks. You won't be able to just double click them for this to work, but open Appleworks, then from there, go to File>Open and navigate to one of your older OS9 docs, and see what happens.
In the end, you may indeed need to go thru the Text Edit step, but it's work a try to try to bypass this step.
Past all of THAT, Appleworks is EOL.... end of life, and someday soon, Appleworks may not work with the next iteration of Mac OSX. You should check out the new Pages.... it's new and will be supported longer than Appleworks for sure, so your documents will last longer.
At work I have a PowerPC Quad G5, and it runs Classic mode just fine under 10.4, so Classic is not a dual processor issue. However, *no Intel Mac* will run Classic, period.

Print peoblem in classic environment

I had to temporarily install a new printer on osX (10.2). classic environment couldn't install it properly, but i was able to print from osX.
when i went back to my regular printer, i haven't been able to print from my classic environment. I can print fine from osX, but i desperately need to print a final draft doc from classic. I use the chooser to select the regular printer, but nothing happens, and i can't access the print monitor.
how do i get things back to normal?

What brand and model of printer are you trying to use?
Is it hooked up via USB directly to the iBook or to a hub?

Printing from OSX in Classic Environment 9.1 software on OSX based printers

Is it possible to load OSX on my Powerbook G3 and print OS 9.1 based applications with a printer designed to run only on OSX? I want to keep my OS 9 applications, run in the classic environment, but is this worth the possible troubles? New printers are only compatible with OSX!
Powerbook G3 Mac OS 9.1.x

Is it possible to load OSX on my Powerbook G3 and
print OS 9.1
I'd use 9.2.2 if I were you. 9.22 works better in Classic. Which PowerBook G3 do you have? Early ones can't run OS X beyond 10.2.8 without 3rd-party hacks, such as XPostFacto. Some not-so-early ones can't go beyond 10.3.9 without 3rd-party hacks, such as XPostFacto. Later models can run Tiger.
based applications with a printer
designed to run only on OSX?
I've never tried, but... in Tiger it might be possible because Apple changed the way Classic prints. In Tiger, Classic prints as if the printer was a laser printer using LaserWriter 8. The LW8 driver hands off the print job to the OS X printer, which then prints normally. (Yes, even color inkjets.) I suppose that this should work even if there is no OS 9 printer installed... but I haven't tried it. If it doesn't work, well, there's not much that will be done about it at this late date.
OS X before Tiger pretty much will require that Classic have working drivers. I had mixed experience getting printers to work in Classic before Tiger. In Tiger it's very simple.
I want to keep my OS 9
applications, run in the classic environment, but is
this worth the possible troubles?
This depends on how much printing you do from OS 9/Classic.
New printers are
only compatible with OSX!
Some new printers are OS X-only. Many still ship with OS 9 drivers. How much longer this will be true is not known, but is not likely to be long. If I had to print using OS 9, I would buy a printer I know works with OS 9 and is likely to last a while. Hint: this is unlikely to be a cheap printer. Second hint: I would do this quickly. Third hint: I'd think very, very, VERY hard about replacing as many OS 9 apps with OS X apps as I could. The end of OS 9/Classic, as an officially supported Apple technology, is in sight. OS 9 has not been able to run from new Macs for years now, and if Apple keeps its promise to move its entire line to Intel by the end of the year, then soon there will no longer be new Macs which can run Classic, either. There may/may not be a 3rd-party solution which allows OS 9 or something resembling Classic to run on Intel, but I'm not holding my breath. Furthermore, I suspect that OS X 10.5 will be the last OS X version to support Classic, even on PPC.
Powerbook G3 Mac
OS 9.1.x

Printing a file created in OS 9.2 "classic" environment

I have just installed OS 10.3.9, but still want to work in classic environment (OS 9.2, AppleWorks 5.0) & print out the documents I create. I have used my printer (Epson C42UX) installation disc but when I click on chooser in classic environment, the printer is not listed.
iMac 400 graphite, powerPC G3 processor (400Mhz), 644MB RAM, crt, slot-loading Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I've tried many times but I can't find a driver for OS 9 on the Epson installation disc, so only OS X is installed. I have made some progress - now the Epson C42ux icon is appearing in the chooser window, but I can't print from it in classic.
Probably only because the Chooser sees it through its USB connection. You still won't be able to print to it out of Classic until you install OS 9 drivers, just as if you were on a Mac running OS 9. Good news is I located the OS 9 drivers on Epson's site. You can get it here. Drivers 7.3bA in the center. To install, you'll first have to have OS 9 (Classic) running. Then run the installer per normal.

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