Quicktime's Conform Aperture is cropping my footage??

So I recorded some 1080i/59.94 Uncompressed 8-bit video via SDI using a Blackmagic Studio card.
Final Cut Pro (and After Effects) report the footage as true 1920x1080. But when I open in Quicktime Player Pro to convert to ProRes, I get this wacky 1888x1062 resolution. Someone pointed me to this Apple document that talks about Quicktime aperture conform (which I've never heard of).
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24215?locale=enUS&viewlocale=enUS&login=email
So I've never heard of QT Player actively cropping and scaling movies. Is sounds like I shouldn't be using QT Player to convert my files, right?

Hi. Is there a possibilty to export quicktime movies with final cut pro where 'Conform apperture to ...' is always disabled or set to clean? I need to encode some quicktime movies with other encoders like Rhozet's Carbon Coder or Cinemacraft HD encoder. In these encoders, especially on microsoft windows, the apperture setting is always set to production and therefore the results are incorrect. I always have to conform apperture to clean or disable it manually.

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QuickTime Properties Conform aperture to

Is anyone having a problem with Quicktime when capturing.
Setup is Final Cut Capture easy setup Blackmagic HDTV 720p 59.94-10 bit. Aspect 1280 X 720.
When file is opened in QuickTime video size is 1248 X 702. Aspect is change is SD also
Apple talks about Conform aperture to: in Quicktimes properties window but thats after you've captured footage. Looking for a setting that defualts it to off so the capture is correct.

I am a technology idiot, so you'll have to dumb everything down for me.
I need to make a quicktime file that I can put on a CD for my thesis advisor and that will play on most computers. I am using the h264 in compressor instead of just selecting export to quicktime in final cut because I wanted to put a gamma filter on the footage (when I exported it to quicktime, it looked a little bleached out and my teacher advised this gamma filter). I didn't intend ever to change the aspect ratio or the pixel aspect ratio, so if that happened it was an accident.
That being said, my teacher ran me through this process this morning and it worked fine. We took a tiny clip of the movie, slapped on the gamma filter, and used the h264 setting in compressor. When we opened the file in quicktime, he selected this "conform aperture" to "production" and the project went back to the right aspect ratio. So I guess I don't understand why it isn't working now? Is there someone I need to select or deselect in the compressor to get the right aspect ratio? Please explain it to me in layman's terms!

Color crops my footage.

How do I stop color cropping my footage? I'm working on 1080P DVC Pro HD footage in Final Cut (Pal) and when I send it to color it automatically trims off the sides of my footage.
I've searched the manual and the web for a solution but can't find one.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the reply.
The footage is 25 frames per second if that helps.
my first port of call was to the project settings. I have it set to 1920 * 1080 HD.
I've tried all the other options and they are all worse.
I've played around in the Geometry room as well, but the missing edges don't seem to exist inside color.
Maybe the problem is coming from Final Cut? I'm using the send feature as the programs are on the same computer.
The original footage was 16:9 aspect ratio. In Final Cut I put a matte on to make it 2.35:1 (Obviously without "baking" it I wasn't expecting the matte to go across, I was just going to redo it.)
But a good part of the width is disappearing.
One thing I have just noticed which is starnge, is that once the footage is re-imported to FCP, although the footage is still too slim, if I check the "drop shadow" box in the motion control panel, more of the image will appear although it's distorted.
Confused...

'Conform aperture' in QT problem

I was shown how to make anamorphic standalone movie appear 16:9 by changing 'conform aperture to' in QT Pro. Now I'm having the same problem with an .m2v movie. And when I go to Presentations and and click on 'conform aperture to' the check appears for a fraction of a second but won't stick, and though grayed out 'classic' changes to 'clean' but there's no effect on the movie, it's still 4:3.
What the--!?!
50+ film @ http://elmerlang.com including:
http://elmerlang.com/LA-NY07.html
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The Dimensions section of the Geometry window is grayed out but shows 720x480. (Why is it grayed out?) I get a 16x9 .m2v file by clicking on the 16x9 choice in the Aspect Ratio in the Video Format panel of the Encoder window.
My problem is that I'm trying to create a 16x9 .m2v file from an Anamorphic sequence and the opening and closing credits look weird. See http://elmerlang.com/TextPic.html Other text panels in the film are not messed up. I've tried many ways, including using the good panels to create new credit panels but no good.
This is discussed in the thread here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1153424&tstart=0
I have spent all day working on this problem and may be losing my sense so I hope I've answered your questions.
Thanks for posting.

How to crop/export footage in 2.39:1

Using premiere pro 1.5....... have footage i shot in 16:9 and would like to crop and export into 2.39:1 or similar aspect ratio without stretching... any ideas?
thx

The formula is thus:
Do the math on the original aspect ratio. 16 / 9 = 1.777. Divide that by the aspect ratio you want to end up with. 1.777 / 2.39 = .74. Multiply that by 100 and we get 74%. Subtract that from 100% and we get 26%. So 26% of your current image needs to be gotten rid of to create the 2.39 aspect ratio. Which means a 13% crop top and bottom.
You can do that by using the crop effect within Premiere if you're making a DVD or Blu-ray. Or you can do that in the Export step if you're creating a computer or web file.

I cannot get Aperture to crop the picture

What am I doing wrong.
Is there another button I need to accept the crop ?
THe crop lines show and I can move them anyway I want.
When I release the line I cannot get the picture to crop.
I am sure it is something obvious but I just cannot get it to crop.
Thanks Greg

Press "a" to exit crop mode and return to select mode. Your crop will be saved.
It may feel a little wacky, but in the grand scheme of things, it makes sense. Full instructions are in the User Manual section [Working with the Crop Controls|http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapt er=17%26section=6%26tasks=true]
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Aperture custom crop dimensions change after exporting

I am a professional photographer that uses Aperture for photo editing and management. I have very specific pixel dimensions that I need to use for finished work. I set up my custom crop to my dimensions, but when I export the dimensions are not exact. For example, my crop size is 2166X1600. I end up with 2166X1599, 2166X1598, 2166X1601, and 2166X1602. Any crops off by more than two pixels, I have to go back and try to recrop. Any thoughts on why the custom crops aren't exactly what you set them up to be?

Export at 72 dpi and it will be the original pixel dimensions. The 1025 px dimension dived by 150 dpi is 492 px. As for the PDF version, never seen them export differently than the page size (plus bleed, etc if added). ID assumes 72 px per inch.
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Keying in premiere crops my footage

Hi, so I've been editing a peice recently that requires me to do a lot of green screen keying, I've just started out using premiere and whenever I finish keying something and then force rendering it, it cuts my peice in half at a slight angle and no matter what I tweak it doesnt change can anyone help?
thank you.

yes the sequence matches the media and the other footage I have qeued up arent cropped it's just when I color key or garbage key something when it finishes rendering it cuts away a little bit than half of the clip at a slight angle, so not even a uniform crop

Aperture's crop a little disappointing

I recently switched from iPhoto to Aperture, and wow are there a lot of features. It's actually a little intimidating. But anyway, I use this software on my MacBook Pro. With iPhoto, if I wanted to crop an image, I would pinch or expand my fingers vertically and horizontally to crop a picture. It was a huge convenience. In Aperture, I can't (or at least haven't found a way) to do this. Is there a way to make the Aperture crop work like iPhoto's?

Sovelin,
I don't have a multi-touch trackpad, so I am unable to use the function, but Aperture 3 indicates you can use the "pinch" in crop mode.
[http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=1%26se ction=3%26tasks=true]
Your profile does not indicate what version of Aperture you are using, but since you are new to Aperture, you are probably using version 3.
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Bad Aspect Ratio from Compressor with DVCPROHD clips.

I created a 30 minutes long sequence in FCP using DVCPRO HD 720p24. I exported the sequence as a QuickTime movie using current settings... the QuickTime export looks perfect and playback displays the proper aspect ratio. I then sent this file to Compressor 3 with standard presets for AppleTV and iPod Video (large and small).
They all turned out with an incorrect (elongated, not squished) aspect ratio. All three exports. The source file looks fine but it is the main suspect as all conversions yielded the same result. Any suggestion on what can be wrong with the exported file or with the compressor 3.0 settings? Before installing Compressor 3, I did exported the file using QuickTime Pro and it turned out with the correct aspect ratio. Clips properties show correct display dimensions.
Thanks!

I believe this is an (annoying) issue with QuickTime's Conform aperture property. For some reason, the Final Cut Studio apps do not write to this property. QuickTime Pro does, which is why those exports are the correct display ratio.
For DVCProHD material, opening your Compressor (or FCP or Motion) created movie in QT Pro and setting that property to Clean snaps the display of the movie in QT to 1248x702 (accounting for - and cropping - the overscan and blanking areas), while setting it to Production should give you the 1280x720 frame you desire.

Pixel aspect and downrez to NTSC problem

Okay, I seem to have a complicated problem...
1. I have footage that was shot mostly at 1080p30 on an HVX200 (there is also some 720p60 here and there)
2. I am making an NTSC version, pan and scan, not letterbox, and have my sequence settings set using the standard DV NTSC preset.
3. I am also making a PAL version, also pan and scan, sequence settings are standard DV PAL preset.
4. I then export through Compressor:
NTSC Settings- Quicktime movie, photo-JPEG, full quality, proportions- 720x480, pix aspect ratio- NTSC CCIR601
PAL Settings- Quicktime movie, photo-JPEG, full quality, proportions- 720x576, pix aspect ratio- PAL CCIR601
Here's the problem- the final results are coming out wrong. NTSC clips look stretched wide, PAL clips look squished skinny. In QT, the aspect ratios both show some kind of "widescreen" effect. The NTSC shows the aspect as being "720x480 (640x480)" and PAL shows "720x576 (768x576)"
I know this won't be accepted for my final requirements. I need the aspects to simply be 720x480 and 720x576 without those dang parenthesis. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

flyingosockman wrote:
What I need are essentially NTSC and PAL DV files that are compressed with PhotoJPEG. I didn't know that the square pixels was part of the compressor, however, that's very interesting.
Basically my requirements are photoJPEG, 720x480 for NTSC and 720x576 for PAL.
That's like asking for soda, but without the carbonation.
Jokes aside, sometimes that is what you have to deliver.
To get back to your original issue, what you're seeing (the figures in parentheses, such as 640x480 for NTSC-DV) are the results of QuickTime's Conform Aperture property which interprets non-square pixels as square pixels for QT playback. If your movie were actually NTSC-DV (and not PhotoJPEG), it would look correct in QT Player.
I suspect whoever you're delivering to has ways to correct for the distortion that you're seeing in QT Player when they'll be outputting (to tape? to MPEG-2 stream?).
In other words, if those are the specs you've been given - 720x480 PhotoJPEG for NTSC, for instance - your outputs and workflow are correct.

More aspect issues

I've searched and read the posts for aspect ratio problems, but haven't found an answer yet.
Problem is, I have converted a movie from PAL using following settings: compression: DV(25)
standard: NTSC, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
aspect: 16:9
When I open the result in Quicktime, and display full screen, it comes up as letterbox and looks fine. So far, so good.
But when I add the DV file to an iDVD project it comes up in a strange squashed ratio. (Project is setup 16:9, NTSC, best quality).
I think the problem is with the DV file, but it's hard to tell because the info I get from various sources is inconsistent:
Quicktime properties...
visual settings
normal size: 853.33 x 480
display size: 427 x 240
scaled size: 853.33 x 480
preserve aspect ratio √
offset: 0 x 0
Quicktime info...
format: DV, 720 x 480 (853 x 480), Millions, DV, Stereo, 48.000 kHz
fps: 29.97
normal size: 853 x 480 pixels
current size: 427 x 240 pixels
Quicktime presentation -
√ conform aperture to 'clean' (any other setting is distorted).
FCP item properties...
frame size: 720 x 480
compressor: DV/DVCPRO NTSC
pixel aspect: NTSC - CCIR 601
anamorphic: √
Any ideas how I can get this sorted out?

David,
Did you try running the movie through Anamorphicizer?
http://homepage.mac.com/sith33/FileSharing34.html
You'll need QT7 Pro (download the one marked QT7 if you have it).
Then, import the movie file into iDVD and it will play widescreen.

"coded area 720 x 576 / shown area 787 x 576 " with PAL DV

When I look at the A/V attribute info of some movies that I shot with my mini-DV camera, Compressor tells me "coded area 720 x 576 / shown area 784 x 576 ". What does shown area mean, and how can it be greater than the coded area?
I import the DV movies from my camera to iMovie and export them as photo jpeg or mjpeg quicktime movies.
I understand that PAL DV video uses a pixel dimension of 1.066, so when I want to watch a PAL DV video on a (square pixel) computer screen I have to compensate that by converting the (interlaced) 720x576 movie to (progressive) 768x576. But this coded/shown area thing is confusing me. ..

Yeah, you're on the right track. Typically, those stats from Compressor relate to QuickTime's Conform Aperture property, which accounts for pixel aspect ratio as well as blanking (what the link calls encoding artifacts).
Or have you ruled that out?
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How to crop & print specific sizes in Aperture

I have a project I am working on where I need to make a series of prints that are flush-mounted onto boards that are 2.25"x5". I want to take images from my Aperture library, crop the long and skinny portion from them them, and print them out on my Inkjet printer (single prints on 4x6's on my Canon 6220 for tests, but I am going to want to print multiple-up prints on 5x7 paper once I get going as I need 10-20 copies of each print). I started by cropping (using the Custom feature) and then using a 4x6 preset in the printer dialog with the image size set to 2.25x5. I, of course, have run into the issue that the crop tool does not crop by inches, but rather pixels, and only in certain aspect ratios. I have tried making an export preset, as some suggested, but that only works if the image is the right size to begin with. By chance, some of my prints are exactly the right size, but mostly they are a bit short or wide...
How do I make a template or crop guide so that I can crop-out the portion of my image that I want, keeping it in the correct aspect of 2.25x5, and then print it out at the exact size? And then how will I do this as a multiple print job on a single piece of 5x7 paper? Do I need to figure out how many pixels a 2.25x5 print will be? Can I set a custom aspect somehow? I know in PS there is the ability to set the "canvas Size" and work the image into that, but I don't have PS on this machine. I have Pages to work with as well, but no Illustrator or InDesign apps or skills. Ideas?
Thanks!

If you select Do not constrain or Custom in the crop tool you can set the crop to any aspect ratio you like. You can either drag the box or enter your dimensions in the tool. Note it won't take decimal points in the dimension boxes so in your case enter 500x225
The crop tool only reports MP because inches would make no sense here. The image could be exported and printed at any size the crop tool only sets the aspect ration of the image.

Output the same size as the cropped video - to Quicktime

I have cropoped and resized my video and want to export it to quicktime the same as the cropped size.
I have tried to follow the instructions at this link, using the Crop button. I followed the instructions: "To crop the image interactively, drag the sides or corner handles of the crop box around the source image."
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WS877FE27E-DDE6-4c35-9158-D1E1F5DEEEF2.html
However, I don't see the "Change Output Size to automatically set the frame height and frame width of the output to the height and width of the cropped frame". Using CS4 and exporting to quicktime 32 bit export.
So instead of doing the crop it is exporting it at 1440 x 1080.
Is it possible to crop and export to Quicktime?
Thanks
Rowby

To further explain --
THe crop setting in the Export Setting dialog box gives me two drop down options:
Scale to fit
Black Borders
"Change Output Size" is greyed out -- even though I have the image cropped in the Export Settings "Source" tab.
Exporting to Quicktime/Animation/32 bit
And in the Export Settings Video settings the width remains at the source's 1440, 1080. The "Constrain width and height" button is unchecked. Aspect is set for D1/DV NTSC Widescreen 16.9.....
Rowby

Quicktime's Conform Aperture is cropping my footage??

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