R9 280X GAMING 3G High Temperatures!

Okay, so I have just installed a brand new R9 280X into my PC.
When under load, it seems to reach very high temperatures and begins to throttle. (~95 degrees Celsius)
Just wondering if this is normal as from what i have read, peoples cards seems to run at about 60-70 degrees.
Here are my card details:
Thanks in advance!

Quote from: Svet on 31-March-14, 21:38:16
this vbios version can't be seem on this picture, i need the vbos file itself
Hi, sorry about before! Here is the link to my vbios download. Thanks in advance! https://mega.co.nz/#!bt5XiSAa!6d07jJRFNM4lT3zWDAmyGnqTo-V4zsqZe4FW5LZEdz0

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