RAC clone from PROD to DEV

HI,
I wanted to know what would be the steps to clone a RAC database instance to another RAC database instance, in this case PROD RAC to DEV RAC? Are there any docs out there?
Thanks in advance

The steps are no different to clone a single instance db.
With Oracle 11g there are 2 nice new feature in Enterprise Edition which makes creation and maintaining of a development system faster and easier:
=> Use RMAN Duplicate to clone a DB without the need of a backup location
=> Use DataGuard Snapshot Standby. This allows you to open the Standby DB for development (e.g. over the day) and resync it with production (e.g. at night). This reduces the need to do the cloning every time again.
See: http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/twp_dataguard_11gr1.pdf
Regarding Pre Oracle 11:
Cloning of the DB can also be done via. RMAN duplicate (see documentation), but you will need additional space to store the backup.
See Oracle® Database Backup and Recovery Advanced User's Guide 10g Release 2 (10.2) under RMAN Duplicate.
Furthermore in GridControl there is a nice GUI to do this.
Hope thats helps a little
Regards
Sebastian

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HI,
Refer Note 230672.1 - Cloning Oracle Applications Release 11i with Rapid Clone
I hope u have applied necessary patches...(Latest Rapid Clone patch & autoconfig patches)
Follow these steps....
Clone PROD to DEV
1. Prepare the Source System
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perl adpreclone.pl dbTier
b. cd <COMMON_TOP>/admin/scripts/<CONTEXT_NAME>
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tar -czvf prodora.tar.gz prodora/
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a.Database Tier
cd $ORACLE_HOME/appsutil/clone/bin
perl adcfgclone.pl dbTier
[oracle@dbs4 bin]$ perl adcfgclone.pl dbTier
Enter the APPS password [APPS]:
First Creating a new context file for the cloned system.
The program is going to ask you for information about the new system:
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Do you want to use a virtual hostname for the target node (y/n) [n] ?:
Target instance is a Real Application Cluster (RAC) instance (y/n) [n]:
Target System database name [PROD]:DEV
Target system RDBMS ORACLE_HOME directory [oraDB/proddb/9.2.0]:/devDB/devdb/9.2.0
Target system utl_file accessible directories list [1]:
Number of DATA_TOP's on the target system [1]:
Target system DATA_TOP 1 [oraDB/proddata]:/devDB/devdata/
Do you want to preserve the Display set to dbs1:0.0 (y/n) [y] ?:
Do you want to preserve the port values from the source system on the target system (y/n) [y] ?:
Database port is 1521
Backing up /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/DEV_dbs4.xml to /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/DEV_dbs4.xml1.bak
Creating the new Database Context file from :
/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/template/adxdbctx.tmp
The new database context file has been created :
/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/DEV_dbs4.xml
Log file located at /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/clone/bin/CloneContext_06210847.log
Running Rapid Clone with command:
perl /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/clone/bin/adclone.pl java=/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/clone/bin/../jre mode=apply stage=/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/clone/bin/.. component=dbTier method=CUSTOM dbctxtg=/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/DEV_dbs4.xml showProgress contextValidated=true
Beginning database tier Apply - Mon Jun 21 08:48:20 2010
Log file located at /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/log/DEV_dbs4/ApplyDBTier_06210848.log
Completed Apply...
Mon Jun 21 08:50:06 2010
Beginning APPSDB_DEV registration to central inventory...
ORACLE_HOME NAME : APPSDB_DEV
ORACLE_HOME PATH : /devDB/devdb/9.2.0
Using Inventory location in /etc/oraInst.loc
Log file located at /etc/oraInventory/logs/OracleHomeCloner_06210850.log
ORACLE_HOME /devDB/devdb/9.2.0 was registered successfully.
Starting database listener for DEV:
Running:
/devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/scripts/DEV_dbs4/addlnctl.sh start DEV
You are running addlnctl.sh version 115.6
Logfile: /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/log/DEV_dbs4/addlnctl.txt
Starting listener process DEV ...
Listener DEV has already been started.
addlnctl.sh: exiting with status 0
Apps tier
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First Creating a new context file for the cloned system.
The program is going to ask you for information about the new system:
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Do you want to use a virtual hostname for the target node (y/n) [n] ?:
Target system database SID [PROD]:DEV
Target system database server node [dbs1]:dbs4
Target system database domain name [dbs.com]:
Does the target system have more than one application tier server node (y/n) [y] ?:n
Is the target system APPL_TOP divided into multiple mount points (y/n) [n] ?:
Target system APPL_TOP mount point [oraAPP/prodappl]:/devAPP/devappl
Target system COMMON_TOP directory [oraAPP/prodcomn]:/devAPP/devcomn
Target system 8.0.6 ORACLE_HOME directory [oraAPP/prodora/8.0.6]:/devAPP/devora/8.0.6
Target system iAS ORACLE_HOME directory [oraAPP/prodora/iAS]:/devAPP/devora/iAS
Do you want to preserve the Display set to dbs2:1.0 (y/n) [y] ?:
Do you want to preserve the port values from the source system on the target system (y/n) [y] ?:
Complete port information available at /devAPP/devappl/admin/out/DEV_dbs4/portpool.lst
UTL_FILE_DIR on database tier consists of the following directories.
1. /usr/tmp
2. 1
3. /devDB/devdb/9.2.0/appsutil/outbound/DEV_dbs4
4. /usr/tmp
Choose a value which will be set as APPLPTMP value on the target node [1]:
Backing up /devAPP/devappl/admin/DEV_dbs4.xml to /devAPP/devappl/admin/DEV_dbs4.xml1.bak
Creating the new APPL_TOP Context file from :
/devAPP/devappl/ad/11.5.0/admin/template/adxmlctx.tmp
The new APPL_TOP context file has been created :
/devAPP/devappl/admin/DEV_dbs4.xml
Log file located at /tmp/CloneContext_06210854.log
Running Rapid Clone with command:
perl /devAPP/devcomn/clone/bin/adclone.pl java=/devAPP/devcomn/clone/bin/../jre mode=apply stage=/devAPP/devcomn/clone/bin/.. component=appsTier method=CUSTOM appctxtg=/devAPP/devappl/admin/DEV_dbs4.xml showProgress contextValidated=true
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Mon Jun 21 09:00:47 2010
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ORACLE_HOME PATH : /devAPP/devora/iAS
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Skipping the starting of services
INFO : Rapid Clone completed successfully
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The run of adrelink.sh force=y "ad" finished with status 0. I've also tried running the adadmin utility and chose to relink all products. But adpatch also fails with same error. Have you tried to relink adpatch only and see if this helps (I understand you did for all AD executable files) -- Also, please check the adpatch timestamp to verify.
OR is cloning from an AIX 6.1 unix environment to an AIX 5.3 environment just not compatible with oracle E-Business Suites?This is not supported -- See (FAQ: Cloning Oracle Applications Release 11i [ID 216664.1], 13. Can I clone from one operating system version to another?).
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Determining the instance (PROD or DEV) inside of BI publisher

We have a problem in that all of our instances print to the same printers. However, when we clone an instance of PROD to DEV, we want the reports to say which instance they came from so no one gets confused. Right now, we have no distinguishable away to determine that. Is there any information coming through the raw XML data that could give us the instance name (PROD or DEV). If not, is there any built in variable we could grab?
Thanks.

Not sure, what is your datasource for the report.
There is no identifier by default.
But you can make use of some options:
1. add query in the report itself to get the instance name of Db and display in the page footer/header.
2. if you had used the common sub-templating concept, just changing the single template in the common , would have helped
3. using custom properties
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WARNING! USING SUPERDUPER TO CLONE FROM AN HDD TO AN SSD MIGHT SERIOUSLY DAMAGE THE HEALTH OF YOUR SSD!
This is the new thread which I referred to when replying to:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2274972&start=0&tstart=0
I used SuperDuper to clone from a VelociRaptor 300GB HDD to an OCZ Agility EX SLC SSD, with disastrous results.
To save me the time of rewriting all the events please refer to the following emails and online submissions:
(Biltan-Wales - 21 Dec 2009 - 11.02 GMT):-
After reading several very favourable product reviews of the above SSD, I have just purchased one from Aria Technology Ltd., to use as a boot drive for my (early 2009) 8-Core 2.93GHz Intel Xeon Nehalem desktop workstation.
Also, prior to purchase of an OCZ SSD, I posted a question on Apple's Discussions' Forum:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2263023&tstart=0
From the response to this, and from reading several other threads regarding SSDs, I found that several Mac Pro owners are using OCZ SSDs as boot drives, and in some cases employing up to 3 of them.
I received my Agility EX from Aria on 16th. December, and yesterday afternoon I decided to set up my boot drive and 4 drive RAID 0, as described in: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2263023&tstart=0
First of all I used SuperDuper to clone from my VelociRaptor 300GB drive in Bay 1, to my original Apple (WD) 640GB drive in Bay 2.
Then I removed the original Apple drive, and installed it in an ONNTO dataTale TQ-M12H external single enclosure, using a Firewire 800 interface connection. Next I selected this as my boot drive to check it would boot OK, restarted my system, and there was no problem.
So my next step was to install the Agility EX, and another 3 VelociRaptor 300GB drives, in the Mac pro workstation.
First, I reselected VelociRaptor 1 as my boot drive, so that I could use SuperDuper to clone to the Agility EX.
The Agility EX was installed in the lower of the 2 optical bays, and was connected to the pre-wired SATA and power cable, and the VelociRaptors were placed in hard drive bays 2, 3, and 4.
I then started up the Mac Pro, and there were 4 message boxes on the desktop, requesting that the drives should be initialised. So then I used Disk Utility to initialise the 4 drives. The SSD was named "Agility EX Boot", and the others "VelociRaptor 2", VelociRaptor 3, and VelociRaptor 4". The Mac system accepted all 4, and mounted desk top icons for each drive. I cannot remember the exact figure, but the Agility EX was listed as approx. 64GB in Disk Utility after its initialisation. All 4 VelociRaptors are shown as 300.07GB. All drives were formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
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Eventually, my only option was to stop the process, and quit Super Duper.
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My system does not recognise the Agility EX at all now! Also, it is no longer listed in Disk Utility!
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I tried disconnecting and reconnecting everything - all drives, interface connections, power cables etc., but to no avail!
This morning I tried this again, but still I cannot get my system to even acknowledge the Agility EX, let alone list it!
So at the moment I am still using VelociRaptor 1 as my boot drive, and, in fact, as my main drive, because I am reluctant to use it with the 3 other VelociRaptors as a 4 drive RAID 0 set up until I get this problem with the Agility EX resolved.
(OCZ - 22 Dec 2009 - 18.29 GMT):-
Cloning from a HDD to an SSD is very problematic. I strongly recommend against doing this. Instead you will want to just install normally onto the SSD. You can clone from SSD to SSD, or from HDD to HDD, but going from one to the other can cause issues.
Try disconnecting the drive from the computer for an hour or so. This will allow all power in the drive to fully discharge. This is a way of resetting the drive that can usually recover the drive. Then plug the drive back in. Does the drive show up again?
If so, delete the partition on the drive, then create a new partition and then install the OS onto it clean rather than clone the OS onto the drive. That should resolve the issues you are having.
(Biltan-Wales - 23 Dec 2009 - 16.19 GMT):-
Thank you for your advice.
I have now disconnected the Agility EX SSD, and removed it from my Mac Pro's lower optical bay.
As Christmas is imminent, and I will not be using my system very much over the next few days, I will leave the drive for 4 to 5 days to allow ample time for all the power to discharge.
Then I will reconnect it, and I will let you know whether or not the drive is recognised by my system.
I was not aware that cloning from a HDD to an SSD could be problematic. Several threads on the Apple Support Discussion Forum have recommended using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner for this purpose. SuperDuper is the preferred option of most Forum members, whereas Lloyd Chambers (diglloyd.com), author of "macperformanceguide.com", uses Carbon Copy Cloner to clone his HDD boot drives to his Intel and Crucial SSDs.
After the Agility EX had been set up as my system boot drive, my intention was to use SuperDuper to clone from it to my original Apple (WD) HDD, now in an external enclosure with Firewire 800 interface, and then use SuperDuper's Smart Update for regular backups, so that I always had an up to date spare boot drive for the OS and applications.
The current VelociRaptor 1 boot drive would then be erased, and I would then use the Mac OS Disk Utility to create a 4 drive software RAID ) with the other 3 VelociRaptors, and this would be backed up using Time Machine to my existing WD My Book Studio Edition II 2TB External Hard Drive.
Please correct me if I have misunderstood your advice, but are you saying that I should only use another SSD, and not my original Apple (WD) HDD, as my back-up external boot drive? I don't know of any other Mac users who are using SSDs for that purpose, possibly because of the prohibitive cost of doing so.
I am more than happy to follow your advice to reinstall the Mac OS and my applications cleanly onto the Agility EX, and, in fact, I did exactly that with my first VelociRaptor HDD, before I had SuperDuper. However, that would still leave me with the problem of how to set up and maintain an external back-up system boot drive, without incurring the expense of another SSD. Any suggestions please?
Anyway the most important matter is the existing problem, and I am hoping that following your advice will resolve this.
I will contact you again early next week. In the meantime have a very enjoyable Christmas!
(OCZ - 24 Dec 2009 - 00.25 GMT):-
If the image is of an HDD and that image is then cloned onto an SSD that does tend to be problematic. I do not recommend doing this, as an image of the HDD somewhat regularly does fail to copy onto an SSD and still remain functional or fast.
You can store the image file on any sort of drive. Storing the image file is fine, as that is just a digital file, so the storage medium doesn't matter. Its actually applying that image to a drive is where the problems often occur.
You can image from a HDD to a HDD just fine, or an SSD to an SSD just fine, but going from one to the other is problematic enough that I recommend not doing this. Sometimes it works just fine, but other times it can fail catastrophically to the point of even bricking the drive. To error on the side of caution I recommend just going a clean install on the new SSD.
Once you have that clean install done you can then take an image of that SSD and image on to other SSD's, or store the image on a HDD for backup purposes.
(Biltan-Wales - 29 Dec 2009 - 13.16 GMT)
Thank you for your last email.
Further to your previous email, and my reply of 23/12/2009. this morning I reconnected the Agility EX SSD.
However, unfortunately, the drive has not showed up again on my system. There is no icon for it on the desktop, nor is it listed in Disk utility.
When I checked Serial-ATAS in my Mac Pro's System Profiler, all 6 Intel ICH10 AHCI are listed in the Serial-ATA Device Tree, but, whereas all my other drives are sub-listed, there is nothing underneath the ICH10 AHCI for the lower optical bay.
As the drive has had 6 days to discharge and reset, it would appear that it has not recovered.
Where do I go from here?
I am still awaiting a reply from OCZ, but that is not surprising, because of the different time zones and the Christmas?New Year holiday period.
In the meantime does anybody else have any ideas, please?

Hi thanon,
"So the SSD is not visible, not even in disk utility, even after a restart ?":-
No.
"Check the log of SuperDuper (Window-Show Log); warnings are in red, I think.":-
This is a copy of the log, but it only refers to the original Mac (WD) drive as the Target Volume and it only lists the last Smart Update. There is no record of the original cloning to the same drive on 21st. December, nor of the interim Smart Updates. There is no record logged at all for the OCZ Agility EX SSD, despite the unsuccessful cloning attempt on 21st. December:-
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | SuperDuper!, 2.6.2 (87), path: /Applications/SuperDuper!.app, Mac OS 10.6.2 build 10C540 (i386)
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Started on Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Source Volume: VelociRaptor 1, mount: /, device: /dev/disk3s2, media: WDC WD3000HLFS-01G6U1, interconnect: Internal SATA, file system: "Journaled HFS+", OS: 10.6.2 (10C540), capacity: 299.73 GB, used: 30.53 GB, directories: 164608, files: 521266, ejectable: NO, ACLs: Enabled
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Target Volume: Untitled 1, mount: /Volumes/Untitled 1, device: /dev/disk5s2, media: Ext Hard Disk, interconnect: External FireWire, file system: "Journaled HFS+", OS: 10.6.2 (10C540), capacity: 639.79 GB, used: 30.27 GB, directories: 164519, files: 522654, ejectable: YES, ACLs: Enabled
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Copy Mode : Smart Update
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Copy Script : Backup - all files.dset
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Transcript : BuildTranscript.plist
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | PHASE: 1. Prepare to Copy Files
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Preparing VelociRaptor 1
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying the integrity of volinfo.database
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | volinfo.database OK
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Enabling permissions on VelociRaptor 1
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Refreshing Disk Arbitration ...
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that permissions are enabled for VelociRaptor 1
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Permissions on '/' are enabled.
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Preparing Untitled 1
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Enabling permissions on Untitled 1
| 11:39:15 AM | Info | Refreshing Disk Arbitration ...
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that permissions are enabled for Untitled 1
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Permissions on '/Volumes/Untitled 1' are enabled.
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that Untitled 1 ACL support matches VelociRaptor 1
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Preserving Spotlight state on Untitled 1
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Disabling Spotlight search indexing on Untitled 1
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | PHASE: 2. Copy Files
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Copying files from VelociRaptor 1 to Untitled 1 using Smart Update
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Cloning VelociRaptor 1 to Untitled 1
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Copying copy files with delete using script: /Users/williamtanner/Library/Application Support/SuperDuper!/Copy Scripts/Standard Scripts/Backup - all files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 27 commands from copy script /Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude system temporary files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 6 commands from copy script /Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude system cache files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 1 commands from copy script /Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude Norton FileSaver files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 2 commands from copy script /Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude Google Desktop Index files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 1 commands from copy script /Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude iTunes Temporary files.dset
| 11:39:16 AM | Info | Loading 0 commands from copy script /Users/williamtanner/Library/Application Support/SuperDuper!/Copy Scripts/Standard Scripts/Backup - all files.dset
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /.vol
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /.vol
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /cores
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /Network
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /.Spotlight-V100
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Preserving /.Spotlight-V100
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | /private
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/-S
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/zz
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/com.epson.epw
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/com.apple.speech.synthesis.globals
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/launchd
| 11:39:20 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/com.WD.WDDriveManagerService
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/vm/swapfile0
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/vpncontrol.sock
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/usbmuxd
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/syslog.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/syslog
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/printtool
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/portmap.socket
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mDNSResponder
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/cupsd
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/com.apple.ActivityMonitor.socket
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/asl_input
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/SCHelper
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/diskarbitrationd.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/configd.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/DirectoryService.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/.DSRunningSP1
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/automount.initialized
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mds.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/com.apple.loginwindow.didRunThisBoot
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/pppconfd
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/resolv.conf
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/sntp.log
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/ntpd.pid
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/utmpx
| 11:39:23 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mds
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/db/BootCache.playlist
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/db/volinfo.database
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/MobileDevice.log
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launchd-99.KTlnYd
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-TIwnDn
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-S6asBo
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-1v6MDi
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/icssuis501
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/4b3745a3d4d81
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/target221.indexState
| 11:39:32 AM | Info | /Users
| 11:39:36 AM | Info | Ignoring /.hotfiles.btree
| 11:39:36 AM | Info | /bin
| 11:39:36 AM | Info | /sbin
| 11:39:36 AM | Info | /usr
| 11:39:48 AM | Info | /System
| 11:41:47 AM | Info | /Library
| 11:42:41 AM | Info | /Applications
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /.Trashes
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /.fseventsd
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Preserving /.fseventsd
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /dev
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /net
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /home
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | /Volumes
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/My Book
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/VelociRaptor 3
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/VelociRaptor 4
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/VelociRaptor 2
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/VelociRaptor 1
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Untitled 1
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Evaluated 685438 items occupying 29.45 GB (164606 directories, 511269 files, 9563 symlinks)
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Copied 463 items totaling 0.69 GB (117 directories, 335 files, 11 symlinks)
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | Cloned 29.15 GB of data in 306 seconds at an effective transfer rate of 95.25 MB/s
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Resetting Custom Icon bit on Untitled 1
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | PHASE: 3. After Successful Copy
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Making Untitled 1 bootable
| 11:44:22 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Blessing OS X System Folder
| 11:44:23 AM | Info | Successfully blessed Mac OS X folder on Untitled 1
| 11:44:23 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Blessing OS 9 System Folder
| 11:44:23 AM | Info | Did not bless Mac OS 9 System Folder on Untitled 1 because it does not exist.
| 11:44:23 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Updating prebinding on Untitled 1
| 11:44:23 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Updating boot cache on '/Volumes/Untitled 1'
| 11:44:30 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache[271] current i386 cache file invalid because /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Desk topServicesPriv has changed
| 11:44:34 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/Resources/MetadataLib.dy lib for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:34 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/MacOS/RawCamera for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:38 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache[271] current ppc cache file invalid because /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Desk topServicesPriv has changed
| 11:44:41 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/Resources/MetadataLib.dy lib for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:41 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/MacOS/RawCamera for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:45 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache[271] current x86_64 cache file invalid because /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Desk topServicesPriv has changed
| 11:44:48 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/MacOS/RawCamera for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:48 AM | Info | updatedyld_sharedcache: warning mismatched install path in /System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/Resources/MetadataLib.dy lib for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 11:44:52 AM | Info | Successfully updated boot cache on Untitled 1
| 11:44:52 AM | Info | ...ACTION: Restoring Spotlight state on Untitled 1
| 11:44:52 AM | Info | ......COMMAND => Restoring Spotlight search indexing state on Untitled 1
| 11:44:53 AM | Info | /Volumes/Untitled 1:
| 11:44:53 AM | Info | Indexing enabled.
| 11:44:53 AM | Info | Indexing enabled on Untitled 1
| 11:44:53 AM | Info | Copy complete.
"Maybe turn the MP off, pull the power cord and disconnect all external devices but keyboard and mouse, disconnct the SSD, reconnect and start MP":-
I have tried this several times without any success.
"Also, make sure no programs are running during cloning, and leave the computer alone.":-
SuperDuper was the only program running when I cloned firstly to the Mac (WD) HDD, and secondly to the Agility EX on 21st. December.
Also everything was disconnected before I removed and transferred the Mac HDD to an external enclosure.
After I had checked that the Mac HDD had been cloned successfully, everything was disconnected again before I fitted the Agility Ex and the other 3 VelociRaptors in the lower optical drive bay, and drive bays 2,3 & 4 respectively.
I used a Lindy anti-static Service Kit throughout the whole process. I purchased this originally for when I installed 16GB of Kingston RAM, an ATI Radeon HD4870, and my first VelociRaptor

What sequence to be followed to move tranport req's from r/3 dev- quality

Hi all
we are having our landscape as
r/3 dev -> bi dev
r/3 quality -> bi dev
r/3 prod -> bi prod
we are now in development and moving all our transport requests from r/3 dev -> r/3 quality. and our r/3 quality will be connected to bi dev.
we have to make a list of transport requests in a sequence taking care of all the dependencies.
Can anyone please explain what all things have to be taken care when making a list of our transport requests from r/3 dev to r/3 quality.
for example : Like we have many enhancements that are done to the standard datasources.
suppose we have list of transport requests like this what should be the order of preference.
1. request1-datasource activation.
2. request2- new append structure
3. request3-changes to extract structure (adding them from the pool into lbwe)
4. request4-new data element created for within the above append structure.
5. request5 - cmod code for transaction data zxrsau01 program
6. request6- cmod code for master data zxrsau02 program.
we have seen issues like we found some appended fields missing in quality system after transporting.
please help me with the sequence in which transport requests ( r/3 datasources )have to be transported from r/3 dev to r/3 quality
thanks
Krishna
Edited by: krishnav3.5 on Sep 2, 2011 10:56 PM

one last question
when transporting requests related to generic datasources from dev to quality or dev to pro what should be the order of transports.
is it the same order as for standard datasources?
we have following requests related to our generic datasource
request1: data element used in append structure
request2: request for append structure
request3 : data source activation.
What is happening is like when we are following the above order we see that in our datasource all the appended fields are hidden (hide tick).
so we have followed the order
request1
request 3
request 2
request3 again.
Can any one explain if this is that right order . becoz now we see all the append structure fields hide-untick but
importing request 3 twice seems something odd. can anyone explain why this is happening
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