Radeon 9000 Pro Graphics Card

Hi Everyone:
Will the Radeon 9000 Pro Graphics Card work in the G4 Tower with a 2x slot?
What about in a iMac G4?
Thanks-
Sue

Thanks Guys-we figured it all out in the iMovie discussions!
Sue

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StephanZcat,
I've been out of town for a bit and just saw your post and links. I'll do some research and see if I can come up with something. ...and maybe we can get some other experts in here.
JBernstein:
Apple usually has a disclaimer about all 3rd party upgrades to Mac's that states they 'do not support them'. So, if it's not for sale at the Apple Store or a Dealer, "It's not supported" - even if it works just fine. For Apple Authorized Do-it-Yourself upgrades there is a page you can access:
http://www.apple.com/support/diy/
There are many sites that track Mac upgrades, I'll list a few.
For 3rd party upgrades and issues, look at:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
http://www.barefeats.com/
http://eshop.macsales.com/benchmark/index.cfm
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seeing the differences in video cards
http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1327
Note: Your Sawtooth's motherboard does NOT support ADC connections. There is no power supply for them. You will have to make sure whatever Video card you get has DVI and VGA (not ADC).
Look at this for compatible video cards for a Sawtooth:
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Hi dazbacon,
Since you're using MS-6309 which is a Pentium III board, I move this thread to the respective Pentium III forum.
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Hi-
The ATI Displays panel is a handy tool. Install if you like, with no worry as to adverse effects.
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Should be no need for outside updates for the 9000.

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Now my G4 has died (probably the power supply and I'm being told it's not worth it to fix---buy a Mac mini!)
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Assaf could well be right that you have a power problem here ... I would not mmediately think of BIOS problems in this case (although your system appears to be quite old and Tiny used to have their own BIOS versions).
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Hi, i was checking on the web regarding the specs of my Sawtooth and stumbled upon this page: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4_400agp.html
My Sawtooth comes with the ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card. Its indicated the max resolution support is 1920x1200. I was wondering if it is able to support resolution 1680x1050 for wide monitors like the Samsung 205BW? Have anyone tried using a wide screen monitor with the Rage 128 pro card? Does it work well?
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Hi, I posted the exact same question in another forum, and i was directed to this link: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=58395
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The issue is that upon installing the ATI card into the machine WindowsXP is freezing and then recovering with an error message about a device failure. In checking the system log I see an error message about the ATI driver being stuck in a loop.
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japamac wrote:
Hi-
I am aware of the AGP specs.
There is one other factor, that you have failed to consider.
Apples use of the ADC port also included use of pins in the connector that later became needed for the 8x AGP standard.
*ADC port is not a part of AGP 8x standard.* G5 uses AGP Pro port, which has somewhat longer slot, but additional pins are at the back of the card rather than front like ADC connector.
In the 4x AGP cards, the ADC port uses pins that are designated for other use in 8x.
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Here you're right - ADC connector on G5-aware cards is slightly different. But keep in mind, that it is still used for ADC voltage supply, so in theory it should be enough to tape out ADC connector on 9000 Pro to not harm either mainboard or graphics card. After all, flashed Radeon 9800 boards do not have ADC connector at all
The AGP bus is 1.5 V only and is not backward compatible. Older AGP cards will not work in the Power Mac G5 computer.
This is quoted from the Apple Developer Notes for the G5.
Of course, but rv250 GPU used in 9000 pro card is 1,5 V compatible, so basically it should work...
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I am looking to purchase a new widescreen monitor (Viewsonic VA1912WB) which supports a native resolution on 1440x900. I am trying to determine if the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro card will properly support this resolution. Anyone have a clue, or tried it yourselves? Thanks!

I had found that page and had drawn the same "hopeful" conclusion that you are suggesting. I also looked in my displays preference pane and noticed quite a few options that aren't on the ATI site as "supported displays," which leads me to believe it's possible.
I've checked out some other boards (pc based) and they are able to make it work but it involves modifying all sorts of driver files. Stupid PC's!
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