Radeon 9600 posting low scores

I have yet to test with 3Dmark 2003, however with 3DMark 2001 SE I get maximum 9600 3DMarks with my setup.
With the Ti4400 board which fried (which is why I had to buy this card) I was getting much higher FPS scores during the portions of the test which worked. (the card would eventually lock up with funny pink and green bars across the screen).
Are there any settings in the BIOS for this Radeon card which I am missing?
My 3DMark score with 9600

Honestly, the 9600's aren't that good. I think I was reading somewhere- like Tom's Hardware- that the 9600 isn't even as good as it's older brother, the 9500. You'll want to go check out a 9800 Pro. I bought my Sapphire 9800 Pro from Newegg.com for only like $210. Best of all, the Sapphire 9800Pro looks and performs almost exactly like ATI's 9800 pro (I have both). The Sapphire is the same color, uses the same heatsink, same layout, they both even use Samsung RAM.
Haven't checked prices recently, but isn't an ATI 9600 around $200? Spend the extra $10 and get a 9800Pro card, the difference is night and day.

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ATI Radeon 9600 and PowerMac G4 QuickSilver - problem

Hi guys!
Sorry for the big amount of posts but I have yet another problem.
Yesterday I replaced the stock Nvidia GeForce2 MX in my QuickSilver with an OEM ATI Radeon 9600 128MB from my G5. I taped the pins 3 and 11 and the card worked immediately.
After using the Mac a bit, I noticed that the graphic performances are pretty much exactly the same as before. I installed Leopard and I got the translucent menubar, but the graphic performances are terrible (seems exactly as bad as the GeForce).
Does anyone have the same issue? Here is a screenshot from System Profiler in both Tiger and Leopard:
And here are some Xbench scores (the same card in the G5 scored about 121 points):

The DP800 shoild help, especiall the 1 MB L3 per CPU, but the Bus speed is still a bottleneck.
Overall, the Geekbench scores almost doubled, from 372 on the 733, to 670 on the DP800, which was mostly CPU not Graphics improvement, but you should see some.
I only have Xbench results for my QS2001 with upgraded CPUs to 1.47 DP/7455s & an MX2 it seems...
Results
146.05
System Info
Xbench Version
1.1
System Version
10.3.5
Physical RAM
1024 MB
Model
PowerMac3,5
Processor
PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.47 GHz
Version
7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache
32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache
256K @ 1467 MHz
L3 Cache
2048K @ 4.16 GHz
Bus Frequency
134 MHz
Video Card
GeForce2 TwinView
Drive Type
WDC WD1200BB-00CAA0
CPU Test
163.16
GCD Recursion
182.54
7.13 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic
183.66
653.17 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic
182.95
2.66 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT
113.59
1.75 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library
183.42
7.34 Mops/sec
Thread Test
187.53
Computation
177.19
1.43 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention
199.15
2.50 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test
116.12
System
159.57
Allocate
857.50
289.11 Kalloc/sec
Fill
124.56
991.53 MB/sec
Copy
104.09
520.46 MB/sec
Stream
91.27
Copy
93.16
379.93 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale
91.50
380.09 MB/sec [altivec]
Add
89.52
377.76 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad
90.99
374.51 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test
145.34
Line
119.01
3.03 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle
123.73
8.70 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle
135.90
3.13 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier
130.84
1.42 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text
342.87
5.59 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test
153.13
Spinning Squares
153.13
107.16 frames/sec
User Interface Test
233.57
Elements
233.57
79.47 refresh/sec
Disk Test
98.39
Sequential
107.10
Uncached Write
109.10
43.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write
110.63
43.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read
96.87
15.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read
113.40
45.82 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random
90.99
Uncached Write
79.92
1.14 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write
92.08
20.77 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read
92.10
0.61 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read
102.80
21.16 MB/sec [256K blocks]

MSI KT6 Delta LSR and Radeon 9600 XT 256mb x8 AGP Problem

hi,
Ive just brought a Radeon 9600 XT 256mb and it wont run at x8 agp at all, games lockup as soon as i start them, within 5 mins all text on display corrupts and i get a message saying the gpu recover has set the gpu to default settings.
I cant change anything in BIOS to set it to x4 agp as its not selectable and says AUTO only for agp speed setting.
Only way to alter is goto smartgart in ATI drivers and select x 4 agp if u get in before text corrupts :(
Ive managed to get it stable at x4 agp now through smartgart.
BUT it says on box and in manual this motherboard supports agp x8 but why dont it run it ???
i havent a clue whats up with it.

hi,
Ive got it running stable in x4 agp and found a post on ATI website about some motherboards not working proberly at x8 agp with Radeon 9600 series graphics cards.
http://mirror.ati.com/support/infobase/4219.html
Got nice scores in 3dmark 2001 and 3dmark 2003
But what confuses me is Quake 3 demo that didnt change at all over my old card and radeon 9000 pro i tried once too.
I got
174fps with Radeon 9100
175fps with Radeon 9000 pro
173fps with Radeon 9600 XT 256mb
Thats on Athlon xp 1700
strange or what ?
oh well its a old demo anyway but main thing is big increase in 3dmark 2001 by over 2000 marks

Low scores in 3dmark..

tried to run 3dmark01 SE today on my machine and i thouh i got so freaking low score, only 13000 points, and i was thinking if i have forgot to install any drivers for something that can be the cause why games are so freaking slow on my machine?
or if anyone have any tips what the problem can be?
spec:
P4 3.0c
1024 mb Corsair memory (400 mhz)
Hercules ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Ati 3.7 drivers)
MSI 875P Neo Fis2r
Win2k with SP4
if there is something you wonder about, please ask.

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Originally posted by goalie20
http://www.rage3d.com/r3dtweak/ This program will allow you to overclock your ATI card if you desire-but also shows the clock speed for your card under the control tab "overclocker". I believe the standard clock speed is around 378/337.50. Anything lower and your card is "underclocked". I use a special fan located in a pci slot below my video card that exhausts heat off the video card out the back of the machine. If the heat is the same today as when you were getting better performance several weeks ago-I do no see that as an issue. After a loop of 3dmark-what are your system temps? Are your Intel INF drivers installed? Several members have had problems by not properly installing these.
Core Clock: 378.00
Memory Clock: 337.50

1360 X 768 Resolution with ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

Maybe this isn't the right forum, but I've been surfing for hours with no luck so please forgive me if this seems out of place.
I output a show recently to QuickTime at 720 24 fps. I'd like to watch it on my 40" Samsung 720 HD TV. I cabled up and managed to get a picture in nearly fullscreen and nearly appropriate aspect ratio, but it doesn't look all that hot. Samsung tells me I want to set my Display settings on my Mac to 1360 x768 to achieve optimum picture. I told them I don't have that option in my settings. They said I probably need to update my driver on my ATI Radeon 9600 Pro video card. I did, still no 1360x768 setting. They said I might want to install the ATI Displays utility. That doesn't seem to offer anything useful. ATI's online support says I might want to install ATI's latest ROM updater, but I can't find any such thing even though the web seems full of mentions of such a beast.
Anyone have any ideas or any suggestion as to where I should post this question?
Martin

FYI:
http://discussions.apple.com/help.jspa#answers
Steve should get the Solved Green Star...
Patrick

Total lockup KM4M-L w/ ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

OK, its been a while since ive had any problems at all but unfortunately I am getting problems with my KM4M-L based PC completely locking up.
I am pretty sure that this is a graphics related issue since it started when I installed an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB.
I tried removing old nVidia drivers completely, have jusy formatted and re-installed Windows XP Pro with SP2, but the problem is still there. I have tried the card on AGP 2x and 4x, with fastwrite enabled and disabled, and different memory allocations of 64MB and 128MB, but still no joy.
I have also tried the latest two sets of drivers from ATI with no joy, and the latest chipset drivers & BIOS revisions from MSi.
Does anyone know of any compatibility issues between my hardware or something I may have missed in my frustration? Thanks, Huw
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Thermaltake Xaser Desktop

OK, I have tried a number of things since posting last.
I have been running the PC without the video card, just using the onboard graphics, which didnt seem to help.
I have air dusted, and replaced the GPU heatsink and fan for a large machined one with a more appropriate size of fan but im still getting some problems:
The first is the complete lock-up, which still occurs at seemingly random intervals with no pattern at all.
The second problem is quite frequently on botting the computer, when windows has loaded, the screen display seems to breakdown into random pixels as soon as I start using anything, the effect is hard to describe but its almost as if the screen is being airbrushed, very odd
I should add that I have also removed the Maxtor HDD, since last posting, and also run a series of MemCheckx86 tests which seem to indicate that the RAM is fine.
Any ideas anyone? I am starting to suspect that there may be multiple problems contributing to this annoyance

PPC G5 with ATI Radeon 9600 Pro monitors not getting signal

hi there.
I have a PPC G5 with ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card and I cannot get a monitor to work properly. I am trying an old Apple Studio Display (circa 2001) and a Viewsonic VA520.
It seems like the Apple display should work, but all I get is a black screen. I ran it through a DVI to ADC adapter and had it working for a short period of time, but for some unknown reason it went back to the black screen.
The Viewsonic gives a 'NO SIGNAL' screen and not much else.
Both of these monitors have worked on other G5's. I am guessing this is a graphics card issue.
I appreciate any kind or helpful words! Thank you.

I'm having a similar problem with the G5 not recognizing a VGA monitor on either video out. I have no problem using two monitors with the DVI inputs but I need to use a VGA video splitter for a third screen. It worked at the beginning of this week, and now it refuses any VGA out, even without the splitter, just going into directly into the VGA in of one of my working monitors via a DVI-VGA adapter(i've tried different ones). I read another post about trashing "displays" and "windowserver" preference files but i haven't yet tried that..any clues??

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro fuzziness

Hi,
I have a G5 tower with ATI Radeon 9600 Pro running two fujitsu LCDs, both at 1680x1050, 60 hz. Today, they're both incredibly fuzzy - bordering on unusable. They remain this way if I step down to lower res.
This is only on my login. My wife's login = crisp and clear. Likewise the login screen. Have tried resetting the PRAM, no change.
One thing I do notice today is that the very far right edge of the menu bar is bleeding over into the right screen, which I don't recall it used to do.
Also, the display is shifting about on the horizontal axis, like it's trying to find a better line sync or something (to use an old CRT metaphor)
Any help much appreciated, Robbie
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Dual 2GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hi-
Welcome to Discussions!
Something new in your (user) startup items?
Since it only occurs in your account, you could have some incompatible extension/utility, or be missing one.
Might compare yours to your wifes-
System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items
Might check to see if you have any Universal Access preferences enabled-
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GfX 5200,Radeon 9600,GF4TI4200 Which is better

hi.
i need to know which display is better on game,
GFX 5200,Radeon 9600 or Gf4 Ti 4200-8x
and can yours provide the 3dmark score and stats.
thanks

Yap Deathstalker you're right... I've put Ti4200 ahead of Ti4400 is because if the Ti4200 is not o/c, its performance is around the performance of Ti4400, but once the Ti4200 is o/c... Bang!!! It's a real monster ahead of Ti4400!!! :D :D :D That's why it earns the position in front of Ti4400... and it's cheap to have one .
Juz luv my MSI's Ti4200TD ...
My next card, Radeon 9800 Pro, 9900 Pro or NV35 cards...
All the Best... :D!!!

8X AGP locks up Radeon 9600 pro

I can't get my Radeon 9600 pro to run on 8x AGP. I swapped the card for a new one with the same results. My AGP voltage is increased to 1.7, aperture size 128, I'm running the latest drivers and updated the mobo bios to v1.8. Fast Write on/off has no effect. On 4x AGP it runs perfectly.
The more graphic intense the programme, the sooner it seems to lock up, Max Payne 2 last 2-10s, while CC Generals can hold up to 10-20min.
I put a lot of research in before I bought the MSI board and I was convinced it's one of the best options on the market. This issue is very disappointing, I hope I am just missing something, please help.

Well "Deon"...I'm sorry to say. ...You most definatly need a new PSU....To tell you the truth, I find it hard to believe that you can get the PC to even POST. ..You have been lucky....I sugest that you go and get a new quality PSU...I would try either a Enermax 450 or a Antec True Power 420 or 480Watt, the 480 Antec True Power unit would be the Best choice though http://www.antec.com http://www.enermax.com Most people do not realize that the Northwood P-4's that are faster than 2.0 GHZ can draw up to 11.0 Amps on the +12 Volt Rail under full load..And your PSU has a 12 Amp rating on the +12 V Rail ....Not to mention that you have a combined wattage max of 140 on the +3.3 V and +5.0 V rails......So I know it is hard to believe but your 300 Advertized watt PSU...Really is more like a 200 "Real" Watt Power Supply.....Now I'm not saying to compare my PSU specs. to yours, as I have a little overkill on the +5.0 Rail..........Sean REILLY875

K8N Neo Platinum & Sapphire Radeon 9600

Okay, so this issue has been addressed in a few places, but I couldn't seem to find a definitive answer.
Is the Sapphire Radeon 9600 incompatible with the MSI K8N Neo Platinum motherboard?
Here's my story:
Just upgraded my case, motherboard and CPU (see sig for specs)
Clean install of Windows XP Pro, SP2
Installed ATI Catalyst drivers from ATI website
Reboot and Windows Device Manager shows an error with my video card. "The device cannot start (Code 10)" Now this is odd because I just pulled this video card out of my old P3 system and it worked like a charm.
Did some research on the forums, and I've tried all of the following:
Changed AGP voltage from 1.5 -> 1.6
Turned FastWrites on AND off
Installed Omega drivers instead
Used Shift-F2 & Alt-F3 in BIOS to turn off NV/ATI Speedup
Installed new Antec PSU with 21A 12V rail (which should be more than 'nuff to just power my mobo, CPU, vid card, and hard drive, which is all I plugged in to it)
All to no avail. I still have the exact same problem. Is there a fundamental incompatability issue here, or am I just doing something wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated. Specifically, if anyone has this mobo/vid card combination, I'd like to know how you set it up and what I need to tweak. Thanks!
oh, I'm running BIOS v1.4 (MSI tech support told me to upgrade to latest BIOS and it'd be okay. They lied. :-P)

I managed to fix my problem:
Format C:/
Install Windows XP
Install Service Pack 1
Install motherboard drivers using MSI LiveUpdate 3
Install ATI Catalyst v.1.0.1796.585
Celebrate when your video card works properly.
Yell and cuss at Service Pack 2.
Now I usually don't subscribe to the "Microsoft sucks" school, but it does seem that in this case, they were the problem.
Anyways, it's all working now. I just hope I don't run into the "freezing in games" problem that others have posted about.
Thanks to both of you for your help. I do appreciate it.

Bug related to ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 / Different graphic cards ?

I have posted in different post regarding a color shift I experience in my pictures using Aperture.
All my displays are hardware calibrated and I'm starting to suspect it's related to a bug related to spesific graphic cards?
A picture illustrating my problem can be seen here:
http://homepage.mac.com/mr.lee/Aperture/
What graphic cards do the rest of you have that experience similar problems?
I have read that Apple maybe will include an update on some grapic cards in their 10.4.4 update and hope this will solve my problem
It's strange to see that the loupe function in the illustating picture shows the correct blue colors in one of the frames (the frame normally used to view the details in pictures not zoomed to 100% like I did in this example)
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I've got the same problem with my ATI Radeon 9600 XT. The histogram on a B&W image even shows non-identical RGB curves
http://www.mungosmash.com/ViewPhotograph.php?GUID=246
I'm almost positive it's a bug with the ATI drivers.

30" display and the Radeon 9600 pro Mac/PC

Okay so I posted this on another "Display" forum before I realized I probably should have posted it here. Sorry. Anyway:
I just hooked up my new 30" display to my new Radeon 9600 Pro that supposedly has dual-link DVI ports for driving a monitor such as this. However the resolution is stuck at 1280x800. I've tried both ports on the card just in case only one of them was a dual-link (I'm unclear on whether it's one or both). However neither one produces the proper resolution.
The instructions seem to be directed at PC peeps and so doesn't make any sense to me. It's talking about uninstalling and reinstalling drivers for the card which I am not aware of a Mac needing but what do I know?
Can anybody tell me what I'm missing?

Well, I tried logging into the forum last night to tell folks to nevermind my query but the server wouldn't let me in. All is now well. This is what happened:
After entering my question I was poring further through the nominal manual and saw something about drivers for the card. Well, this was the first time I'd swapped out a video card plus nowhere in what I'd read in researching the matter ahead of time ever did I see any reference to drivers. Well lo and behold I went to the AMG site and found drivers to download. Unfortunately they were supposed to be installed BEFORE I put in the new card so I took out the new one, put back in the old one, installed the driver, reinstalled the new one and SHAZZAM! it worked and I am running with stunning clarity at 2048...or whatever it is.
A friendly respondent alerted me to a "2" that is stamped somewhere on the face of the card. But I fortunately picked the right one without knowing it. The manual really is not clear as to whether one or both ports are dual-link and it says nothing about how to determine which one is.

ATI Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition will not work with leopard

When I installed a new ATI Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition, 256MB; my Dual 2 GHz G5 (June 2004) will not allow me to drive my Apple Cinema Display while running under leopard, (neither 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 with Leopard Graphics Update).
The mac starts up as usual and gets to the white screen with Apple logo -then the progress ring eventually stalls. The mouse pointer becomes visible and can be moved freely around this screen.
I can connect from other macs on the network and navigate files, but screen sharing results in an all black window.
The Radeon 9600 works fine if I start up the mac with the Tiger installation disk.
I have tried every suggestion that I could find on these boards and elsewhere: zapped the pram, reset the SMU, installed older ATI Drivers, etc...
Of course the G5 is far out of warranty. I've been running Leopard since the day it shipped - so that's out of warranty now, and there is little help to be found on the ATI/AMD website. I'm afraid I'll have to return the card before Apple releases another graphics update.
The stock graphics card that came with this mac is the nVIDIA 64MB GeForce FX 5200 - but it's having trouble keeping up with Leopard's demands - my isight barely works, most special effects in iChat and PhotoBooth are unusable, and of course I'm not given the option to use a transparent menu bar,
I am really good at swapping video cards in the G5 now - but I'm so frustrated.
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
thanks

Hello I have Grafic card ATI Radeon 9600 Pro-256MB install. after Updates. I was after *delete all ATI files besides*
ATINDRV.kext
ATITVOut.kext
ATIRadeon.kext
ATIRadeon9700.kext
ATIRadeon9700DVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
ATIRadeonDVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeonGA.plugin
ATIRadeonGLDriver.bundle
ATIRNDRV.kext
from System/Library/Extensions run ther 30'' Cinema, mit 2560x1600 but without Quartz Extreme . *I'm very angry of APPLE* 3 week without help, 5 Telefon support with Apple, with ATI without solution.
I know that ATIRadeon9700.kext drive Quartz Extreme. But I don't know what can I do too.
My solution for this moment is only this one. If I know my solution from Apple, ATI or another one look sometimes on
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6645245&#6645245
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How do I connect a second Cinema Display to a Radeon 9600 PRO card?

I have a G5 dual (PowerMac7,2) with a Radeon 9600 pro card running an HD cinema display (clear plastic) and want to connect a second smaller 20" Cinema Display with the same type of plug - I think I need a DVI to ADC adapter - is this the case?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Yes, this is the case.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7E5 0FEF9&nplm=M8661LL/B
Also, read this:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75286
Especially Note 3 at the bottom.

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