Radeon 9600 Pro faster then 9600 XT?????

Is the Radeon 9600 Pro faster then 9600 XT? I want to upgrade my PowerMac G5. I have a 9600 XT (128MB) that came with my machine. It's hard to find cards for the G5 (the machines that are not PCI Express). I purchased the 9600 Pro for the Mac and PC (256MB), but I am not sure that this is a faster card. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks so much.

Hi
For me the X800 XT would be the best upgrade in terms of performance and cost. The very last G5 models used PCI express for the graphics card rather than AGP, so in a sense the technology had already moved on before the Intel based Macs were even introduced.
It's nothing unusual though. The G3s use PCI and are limited because the technology moved to AGP. The early G4s use AGP 2x and are limited because the technology moved to AGP 4x (and some cards such as the 9600 won't work with AGP 2x). The later G4s use AGP 4x and are limited because the technology moved to AGP 8x Pro. Most G5s use AGP 8x Pro and are limited because the technology moved to PCI Express etc. I guess it's largely unavoidable if technology is to move forward, and in a sense welcome otherwise you'd have a G5 with the same graphics technology as a G3.
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