Radeon 9700Pro fine on K7N420

Just thought I'd post that I received my Radeon 9700 Pro in the post today, and installed it one my K7N420 motherboard just fine.
I thought I would post this because some other people have been saying that the R9700 is getting lock ups on there systems, and it seems it is either due to the PSU or the motherboard. So far it seems to be a few VIA chipset motherboards.
But I have been playing around on it all day, and I have had no lock ups, or BSOD's.
Here is my 3Dmark score I got just after I put it in:-
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4405568

Is your score obtained with the extra floppy power connector plugged into the VGA card?
PS Your score is a bit low (like 2000 points) did you use the latest drivers for your card?
its 300 quid over here for one of those babies :O
BIm2k

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KT4 Ultra FISR and Radeon 9700pro

OK, I upgraded my MB from the k7t266pro to an Kt4 Ultra. I also upgraded to an AMD xp 2500+ and new DDR 333 ram. My video card is the ati 9700pro. This card functioned just fine with my old board as I never crashed.
Since I have upgraded I have not been able to play any 3d games!! all the games start and are playable for 2-5 mins then it just completely freezes my system. i cannot even do an end task and have to hit the reset button to restart the PC.
I am running Winxp home edition and am fully patched. I have also upgraded the bios and installed every new driver from the live update utility. i have the latest drivers available from ATI as well.
what gives here? I have searched Google and various other sites and i have run across many many threads with people having identical problems with this board and video card. my thought is that it is not the video card, as it ran flawlessly on my old MSI board. i do PC support and system admin for a living and 99% of the time I can resolve PC problems on my own, however, I am at a loss with this one. I have been a loyal MSI customer as this is the 4th MB i have bought from you guys over the years, but i can't help feeling disappointed right now. any ideas? This stinks as I was so looking forward to the upgrade in performance and now i got jack.
Tabascodog
System info:
MSI KT4 Ultra FISR
ATI 9700pro
512 DDR 2700 Ram
300w PS (AMD approved)
Maxtor 30bg ata 133

I took the advice of some of you and got a Antec 430w TruePower PS to replace my old one. Still no good. I was a little skeptical about the new PS thing since I run a pretty minimal configuration.
MSI KT4 Ultra - fisr
AMD XP2500+
Radeon 9700pro
512mb 333DDR Ram
30BG Maxtor HD 133ata
Creative PC-DVD Drive
1 Generic Floppy
As you can see, pretty sparse. I soley use this box as a gaming type PC, so I try and keep the load light. At this point I think I would like the board replaced. Like I said, the 9700pro worked like a champ on my k7t266 pro, I doubt it is the new AMD CPU... so that leaves just the memory or the board at this point. I mean, driver wise I am using the same drivers as those that do not have problems. I am going to buy some high-end memory to eliminate that issue, but I highly doubt that will make the difference. I hope I'm wrong though.
Oh, BTW the option to change the AGP slot back to 4x is locked out for some reason. That kinda pisses me off too. I mean, at least give me the option to bring it back down to 4x.
Tabascodog

PT8-Neo LSR and Radeon 9700pro

Ok so I bought my new MSI board for my 2nd PC and happily installed the P4 2.4 cpu (northwood 533fsb non-ht, this is my 2nd box after all) and 1gb ram.
Placed in the Radeon 9700Pro (with Arctic Cooling vga silencer) and everything worked great.. in fact I was very impressed with the performance.
Then this morning, I succumbed to the bright idea of .. hey I wonder if there are any updates for the bios or drivers? ( ) So installed Liveupdate 3 that came with the board, and after it had run and repatched itself twice it told me, your bios is out of date.. here's ver 2.00..
So I downloaded it, made the dos floppy, and flashed the bios (a procedure I've done many times over the years) and set the new bios up.. win2k booted fine, and everything was great until... I opened internet explorer, and the radeon promptly crashed, the ATI software recovered it, but everytime I tried anything remotely concerning graphics, the Radeon crashed. This espicially happened with anything 3D of course, but also would happen frequently with 2D gfx also.
To cut a long story short, after experimenting (like all damn day ) with every bios for the PT8 Neo-LSR available, it seems that version 1.1 is the ONLY bios for the board which supports the Radeon 9700pro card under win2k at least. Or rather the only version that works for me and allows me to run games and stuff without Radeon stopping responding.
System isn't overclocked, and neither is the Radeon btw.. so I think I have the system working again now with v1.1 of the bios, but I haven't tested it a lot yet.. but at least it loads the radeon screen savers without crashing so far.

Yeah..
system is as follows..
Msi PT8-Neo LSR
Pentium 4 2.4C 533fsb (non-ht)
1gb 266 ddr ram (2x 512mb)
Connect 3D radeon 9700pro 128mb (Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer in perma High mode)
Creative SBLive value!
IBM Deskstar 60gb ide1 master
Seagate Barracuda 30Gb ide1 slave
Plextor cd writer ide2 master
Seagate Barracuda 80Gb sata 1
I think the idea mentioned before might be worth a shot... I can feel a full install of windows coming on.. more self torture
Edit
Yes, during the course of the day I did install the latest ati catalyst drivers and dx9 also..

ATI Fire GL X1-128 vs Radeon 9700pro?

What is the main difference in these cards? I think I might have the FireGL instead of the Radeon 9700pro. I was given a bunch of parts when my friend upgraded and he did not tell me what all of it was at the time. This explains the memory problems I had earlier. Also can I continue to use the Omega Radeon drivers on this card if it is the FireGL?

The main difference between the 2 is the Cost!!.As a ATI Fire GL 128 Cost about $700-1,100 US......As you know this is a lot more then A 9700-Pro!!...The Fire GL Line of Cards from ATI is comparable to the "Quadro"Line of cars fro NVIDIA, only the Quadro cards are closer to 5 X the amount of a regular FX series Card...A Quadro FX 2000 256 Cost about $1,800-2,000 US!! ...These specialty Fire GL and Quadro FX Vidio Cards Look basicly the Same on the Outside as their Gaming Card Brothers, But the Main defference is they have special electronics on them which in turn allows them to access certain features in a driver which makes them that much more programable....The People that use these Vidio Cards are Mainly Game Programers, and People that do a lot of CAD work.....These Cards are very fast in certain CAD programs But they are capable of playing games Just not at as Fast a Framerate as a True Gaming Card.....But if you needed to run a CAD program such as "Light-Wave 6" then your Gaming card would crawl, where the Fire GL would not....So if you do indeed have one you are lucky ...As like I said Before It is worth up to 3-4 Times what a Regular ATI 9 Series card is...............Sean REILLY875

Intel ICH5Raid & radeon 9700pro incompatable

I have recently switched from promise to intel sata raid.
My system performance in 3dmark/games dropped a great deal.
After hours of trial & error I have discovered its the graphics card (radeon 9700pro) for some reason it is running with no agp memory which severly affects performance. I can be 100% sure of this as I have exchanged it with a nvidia card which runs okay. The funny thing is that before the raid switch I could not use any setting greater than slow in the bios performance but know can use any setting however that does not make up for the performance lost with no agp memory. The radeon card works okay in another machine. I am using latest drivers for everything. CARL.
875p (1.6)
3.0ghz 800mhz (zalman quiet fan)
corsair 3200xms twin 512mb
radeon 9700pro (3.5)
maxtor sata 120gb 8m cach x2
xp pro sp1
q-tec 550 watt (do'nt laugh)

What do you mean it is running with no AGP memory, and what makes you think that.
You can set the agp apature in the BIOS, but that should make a huge difference. What games are you using and just how poor is their performance?
I have a 9700 Pro and it works flawlessly with this board.
I found using the omega drivers worked amazing with my card so I am using them. You would probably have better luck in the forums at http://www.rage3d.com or at http://www.driverheaven.net. Both sites have a really solid ATI user base for support, and you can find tons of help at both sites, and the omega drivers at driverheaven.
Regards,
oglsmm

648Max and Radeon 9700 - Im confused

I just installed a Radeon 9700 pro. I was getting a beep sequence when booting and it would go no further. I would just restart the computer and it would come up fine.
Everying appears to work fine after that but I do not like things to work any other way than perfect.
I looked into these boards and have been reading alot about this issue and so I checked my versions.
I seem to have A revision 1.0 Motherboard and a revision 1.1 Radeon 9700pro(D33011).
Should I talk to MSI and ATI about replacing them?

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Originally posted by AMaskedMan
I just installed a Radeon 9700 pro. I was getting a beep sequence when booting and it would go no further. I would just restart the computer and it would come up fine.
Everying appears to work fine after that but I do not like things to work any other way than perfect.
I looked into these boards and have been reading alot about this issue and so I checked my versions.
I seem to have A revision 1.0 Motherboard and a revision 1.1 Radeon 9700pro(D33011).
Should I talk to MSI and ATI about replacing them?
i had boot problems with this combo when i first bought them. msi asked me when i purchased the MB and asked for a number on the box tht shows what month it was made. if it was made last september they had a issue with 9700 and the board and they rma''d the board and everything works fine now.
dont know if that would be your fix though but i would suggest talking to them.
other than that make sure your using bios 1.1 or 1.3 (heard 1.2 was problematic for 9700) and that your power supply is adequet.
Edit:
just saw you had rev 1.1 of the 9700. that rev has had boot issues with agp 8 MB's. so if the problem i described doesnt fit yours(not made in sept) you might talk to ati about getting a rev 1.3 or higher. i had to get the 1.3 when i was using a via agp8 board and people on Rage3d had problems with the same issues on the sis 648 boards also.

[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

Did the new agp drivers help anyone with the problems with 9700PRO

just wondering if the new agp drivers from via fixed any issues with people with MSI and/or radeon 9700PRO
I used to experience crashes in games only when I overclock to 333FSB but none at 266FSB. I did get 600 more 3dmark2001SE points by using the new agp drivers. But I tried battlefield 1942 and my video locked up when I boarded an airplane in the wake island mission. I had never experienced a freeze with the old agp and am interested to know how others have made out.

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KT3 U2 and ATI Radeon 8500 multimon conflict

Has anybody gotten a Radeon 8500 to work with the KT3 Ultra2 in multimonitor mode, and in WinXP sp1? No matter what I do (uninstall/reinstall drivers, etc) the Radeon 8500 will not fire up in multi monitor mode; all I get is two monitors with the same desktop. The radeon worked fine in multimon on my old Abit KG7.
I updated the KT3 bios to ver 5.7, and let live update take care of the via chipset and vga drivers update.
-mark
KT3 Ultra 2
Athlon XP 2100+ t-bred B
1 gig Mushkin PC2100 cas 2
PC Power & Cooling 400 W psu
Alpha 8045 hs/Sanyo Denkai 80mm cpu fan
ATI Radeon 8500 LE
Adaptec 29160 scsi card
Hercules Game Theater XP
3Com 3CR990-TX-97 NIC
3 IBM Ultrastar scsi hds

Nope. Minecraft seems to run fine, albeit quite slowly:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7122698/bbs_ar … pyface.png
Cinnamon screenshot: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7122698/bbs_ar … adface.png
The rendering errors at the bottom border of the "Cinnamon Settings" window and the white boxes between the chromium tabs. These are more or less permanent, they stay there until the window is destroyed, and reappear quickly after the window is first rendered. The white noise looking things on the chromium window stay there until the window repaints itself. Moving the chromium window causes the white noise to start flickering.
The screen froze when I opened a nautilus window and tried to resize it. Xorg.0.log doesn't mention any errors.
This doesn't happen in Cinnamon 2D, so I assume it has something to do with the OpenGL implementation.
Forcing 7600M by adding
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
to
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-radeon.cfg
causes Xorg to not even start.
I'm thinking that I've managed to improperly configure the drivers, although I don't see how.
Screenshot from aur/doomsday running doom shareware: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7122698/bbs_ar … s_good.png
The .wad (data file containing all the game's assets) isn't corrupted. The engine itself might be, as the sprites are always corrupted in the same way. Note the barrel on the right side that has parts of a lower resolution version of itself (mipmapping) and blue armour, the light thingy in the middle that contains a lower resolution of itself and a shotgun ammo, and the pillar in the other room that is just not nice to look at. Moving away or towards the sprite (which effectively changes the mipmap level rendered) might make the sprite look as it is supposed to be.

Help!~! what is prob ? (Radeon 9700 or Ram)

ok here is my new system report first
Model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Speed: 2.41GHz
Performance Rating: PR2652 (estimated)
L2 On-board Cache: 512kB ECC synchronous ATC
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c
MP Support: 1 CPU(s)
System BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. Version 07.00T
Mainboard: MSI MS-6585
System Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) Unknown (0648)
Front Side Bus Speed: 4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
Installed Memory: 512MB
Monitor/Panel: Samsung SyncMaster sm950p(T)
Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Windows System: Microsoft Windows 2002 XP Professional Workstation Ver 5.01.2600
>>
Manufacturer: MSI
Model: MS-6585
Version: 1.0
Manufacturer: Uknown Chassis Manufacture
Case Type: Desktop
Can be locked: No
Version: Version 1.00
Manufacturer: MSI
MP Support: Yes, for 1 CPUs
MPS Version: 1.40
Model: MS-6585
Version: 1.0
Error Detection Method: 32-bit ECC
Error Correction Capability: 1-bit
Supported/Current Memory Interleave: 1 way / 1 way
Number of Memory Slots: 4
Maximum Installable Memory: 512MB
Maximum Module Size: 128MB
Supported STD/FPM/(B)EDO Speeds: 70ns, 60ns
Supported Memory Types: STD, FPM, EDO, Parity, ECC, SIMM
Supported Memory Voltages: 3.3V
ROW-0 (RASL-6 RASL-11): 512MB DIMM SDRAM double-bank
ROW-1:Empty
ROW-2:Empty
ROW-3:Empty
Model: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) Unknown (0648)
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c
Front Side Bus Speed: 4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
>>
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Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
Version: Version 07.00T
Date: 07/03/02
Plug & Play Version: 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version: 2.30
(EE)PROM Size: 256kB (2Mbit)
Can be Updated (flashed): Yes
Can be Shadowed: Yes
Is Socketed: Yes
Supports APM: Yes
Supports ACPI: Yes
Supports Plug & Play: Yes
Supports ESCD: Yes
Supports Enhanced Disk Drive: Yes
Supports Selective Booting: Yes
Supports LS-120 Boot: Yes
Supports ZIP Boot: Yes
Supports BIOS Boot Block: Yes
Supports Network Boot: No
NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible: No
:D
ok when i made this system with Radeon 9700 pro i had prob cant play game everything just freeze so i thought i had prob with Radeon 9700,MSI648 Max
so i changed back to my old video card NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 but i'm still getting same prob i dont know what is wrong ;(
something is in my mind 'Ram' my ddr400 cuz when i first time i made this i had some masage
warning!! CPU/DRAM Frequency is Wrong !
buh ~~ buh ~~ buh ~~~!!~!~!
so i check bios setup nothing is worng
CPU/DRAM Frequency Ratio : by spd
DRAM Frequency : 200 Mhz
Auto Detect CPU FSB : Enable
CPU Frequency : 133
anybody can help me out ?? :D
if the prob is Video card what do i have to do ??
someone told me i can change AGP 8X to 4X speed with program Riva Tuner but there is no option i can change
someone help!! ;(

Hi,
I have exactly the same problem: games keep going freezing after a while. It was worse at first, then I disabled the "spread spectrum" in bios. It was then better, but still freeze from time to time (once or twice an hour) during games (morrowind, jediknight, hitman2).
I also tested the solution of snoopkoira, but did not work. Anybody else has an idea?
config:
sis648 max-L, bios 1.3
Intel P4 2.66Ghz 533
512 Mb DDR400 Kingston CL2.5 in slot 1
hercules radeon 9700pro with latest drivers (catalyst 3.0)
directx9 (also tested my system under DX8.1)
windows xp pro 5.1.2600
latest SIS AGP drivers

K7N2 Delta ISLR and XP3200 Woes

Let me share some of my experience with random crashes and lock ups on my main system.
Hopefully some might find it helpful and others might have useful comments to add.
It all started when I decided to upgrade my system. I waited until new technology was announced and then went out and bought the hardware that was knocked off the top spot.
My current system is:
Althon XP3200 Barton
1Gig PC3200 (2x512M)
K7N2 Delta ISLR Bios 7.7
Radeon 9700pro
Antec TruePower 550W PSU
XP Professional
SATA 120G Barracuda
When I first assembled the system I could not, and still cannot, get it to run stable as a XP3200 with a FSB of 200MHz (400MHz) and the memory in dual channel mode. The system wouldn’t boot, would randomly crash, would come up with fatal XP errors.
So after consulting the message boards I was informed it was probably be down to two causes; a inadequate power supply or overheating.
That is when I went out and bought the Antec TruePower 550W PSU. The reason being the CPU temperature was around 47C - 52C (107F - 115F) with ambient around 35C (88F). Not too hot I thought.
Anyway this did not solve the problem so I then decided to change the CPU coolers. I now have a nice collection, Alaska, Aero, Gigabyte and others. Current one on order is SLK-900A with a delta FFB0912EHE fan. But again this did not solve the problem.
I then thought that maybe the ambient inside temperature was too high and therefore pushing the CPU temperature up. To solve this I fitted two hard-drive fans, four 80mm case fans and a PCI exhaust fan. This was on top of the 3 fans already in the system. Still the system would not run. I even took the side panel off and had a 6” mains fan blowing into the case. Still couldn’t make it stable.
I have just ordered a Thermaltake Wingo V8000A case.
So I decided to check out the XP3200 and memory. After playing around I found out that:
1. The memory is fine running dual channel at 400MHz. I ran memtest using my CPU and memory in a friends PC for 12 hours without any problems (Abit board).
2. The system is stable if I drop the FSB to the processor to 166MHz (333MHz). How I am currently run the machine.
3. The system was more stable if I ran the memory in single channel mode.
4. The point it becomes unstable is when the CPU FSB is 192MHz (384Mhz).
5. The problem occurs on another K7N2 Delta ISLR motherboard. Actually exactly the same problem running a different XP3200 and 1Gig.
I have tried all possible combinations in the bios, except Vcore, Vddim voltage levels. Which is my next step. I think I need to up the Vcore at higher frequencies as I believe it may be a bios /motherboard inherent problem.
I hope this might be helpful to some who are experiencing the sample problems.
Couple of things I don’t like about the mother generally a part from the fact I can’t set it up correctly.
1. The decoupling capacitors around the CPU socket are too close. This limits the choice of CPU coolers you can fit.
2. Motherboard components interfere / prevent you from fitting certain cards in the PCI slots. Such as the SPDF adapter that comes with the motherboard.
And does anyone know:
1. What is the maximum temperature I should be seeing for stable operation on a XP3200?
2. Any recommendations on another suitable motherboard? I basically spent all the money I had so if I can’t get it working I’ll bin the motherboard and buy another one.
Oh, why don't I run it at 333MHz? Well then I got a slower system than I started with and it means I admit defeat!

I have this same board with the same BIOS and am also using an Athlon XP 3200+ (with Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM) and had the same excruciating stability problems. I had tried/tested everything in sight and no stability. Then I found a posting in this forum made a few months back by WebFan (with an XP 3200+ and basically the same RAM), who said he had the same kind of problem. He had only achieved stability when he reduced the FSB setting to 192 MHz (obviously not a coincidence). (Thank you ever so much WebFan.) I reached the heaven of stability by making the same change. Then I started experimenting; I moved the bus speed to 193, still okay. I set the RAM settings to the 3-3-6 2.5 that Corsair says are stable, still okay.
Then, and this I believe is the key step, I installed the lastest set of chipset drivers from nVidia (not the older version provided by MSI). This change subjectively seemed to improve performance noticeably, so I decided to take the big plunge and return the FSB to the rated 200 MHz setting. It's only been three days, but STILL OKAY! Before setting the FSB to 192, I was having all kinds of blue-screen crashes numerous times a day. I haven't had a single one in ten days, three days running at the full 200 MHz.
It seems to me that the board/chipset were not tuned to handle the 3200+. If you look at the description of the board on the MSI global site, it says it's compatible with Athlon XP 3000+ and up. My guess is that only the lastest edition of the drivers, version 4.24/4.27, is up to the job. (I'm not interested in overclocking and so haven't been interested in seeing if I can do better than the rated 200 MHz setting [400 MHz DDR clock speed]. Leave well enough alone, if you ask me.)
Try them; you have nothing to lose but your instability.

Invalid Format

I am trying to connect my G4 FW with Radeon 9700pro to a 26" HD TV.
The TV has PC (VGA) slot and I have tried connecting from DVI to VGA adapter from G4 to VGA port on TV. This results in a black screen after the apple screen. The TV tells me there is an Invalid Format.
I am guessing the resolution and refresh details in preferences are incorrect, however if I connect a spare monitor, set up the display, connect to TV, it works fine. Until I do a restart. Then I get the Invalid Format again.
Would it be worth opting for a DVI to HDMI cable or would it give me the same results?
Is there anyone out there that can advise?
Thanks

Hi-
You can get a DVI-D to HDMI cable. That will eliminate the adapter, making a cleaner, more trouble free connection.
The 9700 has DVI-I, but the DVI-D will connect just fine.
The DVI-I has integrated analog with the digital, and the DVI-D only takes the digital.
Analog is of no use with a digital monitor/TV.

KT6 Delta - Core Centre seems to have broken it!

My spec is as follows
KT6 Delta motherboard
AMD Athlon XP2600+
Crucial DDR400 3200 512MB Ram
160GB SATA hard drive
Radeon 9700PRO
Windows XP Home
The machine has been running absolutely fine for months until I foolishly decided to press the auto button in core centre for optimising clocks etc.
This resulted in the machine crashing followed by booting failure just after the Windows splash screen comes up.
The machine will boot with another IDE disk - but after installation of XP the mouse fails to operate???
As soon as the SATA disk is reconnected and configured as a non boot device, the same boot failure happens again.
I have also tried resetting the CMOS to no effect.
Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

I had that problem due to my 9800PRO.Dont know why,but a fresh format needs to be done all underclocked and with a old cheap video card installed.After you load winxp and get everything working,load VIA drivers then put the ATI card in,load its drivers and you should be good to go.I did this on 2 machines so far with no problems.Don't know what it is about ATI and a fresh install,but it makes windows xp do weird stuff.I also found that setting the FSB and uping the ram to the correct MHZ also causes winxp problems when doing the install.That is why I leave it "ALL" underclocked until I get it loaded(win xp)then the VIA drivers next before installing the ATI card and it's drivers.
You also said the mouse fails to operate.When I do a fresh install,I have to use the ps2 mouse adapter instead of the USB or the mouse will fail.
I dont know if anything I said will help you or not,but I had spent hours and hours trying to figure out how to load up everything with my combo the correct way.FWIW,I had always had a problem with getting my ram to 400mhz setting with my combo.Tried BIOS flash,reformat,fresh install's of all drivers ect......After using the following procedure above,I could change the ram to the 400mhz where it needed to be and it was all because of an improper loading procedure that I could not find posted anywheres.
Good Luck

GF 4 Black Screen

I am trying to upgrade from a GF3 to a GF4 4200. I have tried all the drivers, VIA 4in1 , AMD AGP 5.33, and still get a black screen after the WinXP logo when booting up.
My pc initially boots up fine. Then I load the drivers and the card is recognized. Then I reboot and see the WinXP logo then get a black screen.
This has also happened with a fresh install of WinXP and also Win98SE, with only the video card in the mobo. I have also exchanged the card once and get the same issue.
I also tried an ATI Radeon 9700PRO and the same black screen came up after loading the video card drives. I can run the GF3 without any issues.
Please help, any advice appreciated.
Yoop

I put the 430W psu in and still have the same problem. The screen goes black after the WinXP logo when loading windows. After 20-25 seconds, a BSOD comes up with the error:
STOP: C0000415 UNKNOWN HARD ERROR
UNKNOWN HARD ERROR
BEGINNING DUMP OF PHYSICAL MEMORY
PHYSICAL MEMORY DUMP COMPLETE
CONTACT YOUR SYSTEM ADMINISTATOR OR TECHNICAL SUPPORT.....
What to do now?
Yoop

845G can't detect Adaptec 39160

I got a 845GMax-L, an ATI Radeon 9700Pro, an Adaptec 39160 SCSI card and a Promise SmaRAID IDE card. I am encountering a whole bunch of weird problems with the motherboard not seeing the SCSI and/or the RAID card.
1. If I flash the Adaptec 39160 SCSI card to 3.0 BIOS, the card can't be detected by the motherboard, no matter which slot I plug it in.
2. When I left the 39160 card at BIOS 2.57.0 or 2.57.2, the card can be picked up by the mb just fine, as long as the Promise SmaRAID card, which is connected to 2 IBM 75GXP, is NOT plugged in. Whenever I plug in the Promise SmaRAID card (along with the HD), the mb will not detect the 39160 card. This is also true no matter which slot I plug the cards into.
3. If I do NOT connect any HD whatsoever to the Promise SmaRAID card but just plug it into the slot, the mb can detect both the SmaRAID card and the 39160.
4. With the Promise card unplugged, but the 2 75GXP plugged into the onboard IDE channels, 39160 is detected by the mb just fine.
5. If I do not use the Promise card, but plug in a Magic-Pro ATA133 RAID card instead, the 39160 card can be dtected, but the Magic-Pro card won't be detected.
6. If I unplug the ATI 9700 Pro and plug in a Hercules GF2GTS, then BOTH the Promise card (with the 2 75GXPs) AND the Adaptec 39160 card will be detected just fine.
I include all the details to help you guys at MSI troubleshoot it easier.... so what gives? Why the particular combination (9700 + 39160 + SmaRAID) doesn't work? Is a fix coming up or I am just out of luck?

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I guess I will try again. 8)
I really hope it is the power supply, because that makes things much easier.... all I need is to buy a new one..... tho I still kinda doubt it, because the setup works fine as it is, so long as I do not plug the Promise card in. And that's 9700 + 2 15k drives + 2 7200 drives + 2 optical drives....
That is, unless somehow those IDE cards actually takes up a lot of power?

Radeon 9700Pro fine on K7N420

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