RADEON 9800 XT 256MB VIDEO CARD won't sleep

RADEON 9800 XT 256MB VIDEO CARD
Posted: Dec 8, 2006 4:21 AM
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I have a RADEON 9800 XT 256MB VIDEO CARD and when my cpu goes into sleep mode the card has a fan on it and it's still running. I checked if I had any app's still open but I don't except for Dashboard. So how can i get the video card to go into sleep mode?
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Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

offtheroad-
Do you have the CPU and monitor set to go to sleep at the same time?
Luck-
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Do you have the CPU and monitor set to go to sleep at the same time?
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Can you find your model here? http://support.apple.com/specs/#powermac
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