RADIUS (NGS) is not disconnecting users

Hi,
I have a guest network set up on a WLC with an external RADIUS server (NAC Guest Server). However when the time profile expires (user account expires) on NGS the active user is not disconnected.
Now if the user logs off the guest network (either using the logout window or via the idle/session timeout) and tries to log back in they correctly get an error message when they try and log back in on the portal. The issue is that active users are not getting foraceably logged off the guest network.
I'm sure i've seen this issue referenced somewhere before but I couldnt find it.
Eoin.

the key point is that Radius is an authentication that happens when the client connects. The Radius server cannot take actions unless it is contacted in the first place so a radius server cannot kick users.
This is "too bad" and yes things are coming to change that. The new versions of IOS switches start to support "Radius Change of Authorization" that allows the radius server to kick people on demand etc ... But that's not yet there.
The session timeout is the time for which the WLC leaves the client in peace before asking for a reauthentication.
For a WPA SSID, the client laptop will automatically reprovide credentials after timeout usually so it's a smooth reauthentication. But for guest, if the authentication method is a login page, the user will have to re-enter his credentials and if he was doing a file transfer, that got interrupted so that's not cool to set a very small session timeout.
So you have to decide I'm afraid to set a session timeout of 2 hours let's say, time that you find acceptable to have to reauthenticate again. This means that the clients will definitely not be able to have network access 2 hours (maximum ! once their NGS user account expires, they will be kicked at the next reauthentication which happens between 0 and 120 minutes later) after their account expired.
Nicolas

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    Is your iMac one of the new Intel iMacs? I think Mac users with the new Intel Macs are having trouble with the older iPods like the Third Generation iPod. I'm using mine with PowerPC Macs & it works fine. The only issue is that I can't get it to charge to 100 percent. I had to replace the Hold Switch, the Lithium Ion rechargeable battery & I had to upgrade to a 20 GB hard drive since the original 10 GB hard drive died. I had to put the iPod into Disk Mode before my '17 iMac G5 would even recognize it all after replacing the hard drive. I'm thinking the logic board may need to be replaced too since I read that in the Knowledge Base Articles that iPods may need to be repaired. Apple charges $299 if your iPod is out of warranty. I found a online store via Google that sells parts for older iPods at reasonable prices. I think once I get more money I'll try to replace the iPod's logic board next.

  • Constant "Do Not Disconnect"

    The battery display on my nano went from charging/lightning bolt to charged/plug icon, but the red circle blinks continuously, with the do not disconnect message. I want to use the darn thing... anyone know about this?

    Once you eject, that's what its supposed to do, dissapear from itunes. to get it to show up again, unplug the usb cable, wait 10 seconds and plug it back in.
    the do not disconnect will show as long as ipod is connected to itunes, so the user doesnt accidentally pull the plug. once you eject from itunes, the ipod should still charge, but it will not show up in itunes until you plug it in again.

  • Flashing do not disconnect symbol

    i plugged my ipod into the usb (regular, not 2.0) and it just keeps flashing "do not disconnect" with the red symbol. it appears the ipod got charged. nothing happens when i hit menu, or any other button. when i go to the button on bottom of screen it just says "apple ipod usb device cannot be stopped right now. try stopping it later" ok hopefully someone can helpme (please?)

    Hi coffeandtimbits,
    Let's try resetting your iPod:
    First, toggle your iPod's "Hold" switch back and forth a couple of times. (leave it on the white side of the switch, which is the Off position)
    Then, press and hold the Menu and Select (center) buttons together for 5-10 seconds.
    After your iPod displays the Apple logo as it resets, it should display the normal main menu for a couple seconds, then flash back to "Do Not Disconnect".
    Open up iTunes, and see if it syncs from there. If it does, then, when the sync is complete, click on the little arrow next to your iPod's name in the Source List (the left display panel) of iTunes.
    Hopefully, at this point, your iPod will safely eject, and show the Main Menu screen. It is does this, then it should be fine to unplug it from your computer.
    If your iPod isn't recognized in iTunes, or you can't successfully eject it from there, then this is probably the best thing you can do to safely disconnect your iPod (withOUT unplugging it when it says not to):
    Close all applications that are running on this user account, and other user accounts on your computer, as well.
    Then, turn off your computer (with your iPod still connected).
    After the computer has fully shut down itself (the HD quits spinning, etc), unplug your iPod from your computer.
    -Kylene

  • Shows !folder then goes to do not disconnect then to apple icon,

    my daughters ipod goes from the !folder icon to do not disconnect to apple icon, over and over.Tried the reset
    then it shows !battery icon, i can find the !battery icon
    any where on the web site what does it mean and does it have anything to do with the !folder,d.n.d.,apple icon repeating.also it shows on my tray when it shows do not disconnect but goes away on the others
    any suggestions?

    Firstly, sorry for my poor English, but I would like to share with you my experience, and hope that it may helps you.
    Since the release and update of iTunes 7, I have not faced any problem, but I heard a lot of articles from this forum about the errors 1417, 1418, 1428 and 50 etc. I could not make any suggestion and find a solution about it, all I could do is to copy some threads from some successful cases mentioned on this forum.
    Until yesterday, I finally received a 4th Gen 20GB iPod (around 2 years old)from a friend and asked me whether I could fix it for him, which has been left untouched as a paper-weight for almost 2 months.
    I tried to turn it on, and the screen was completed blank and the device looked dead. Before doing anything I prepared the following:-
    1. A window based PC
    2. A Mac computer
    3. An USB iPod cable
    4. A Firewire iPod cable
    5. An iPod AC charger
    As the iPod was previously formatted on a PC, therefore I tried to plug it with a PC via USB cable, it did not response and not able to get recognized by the PC. I ejected the iPod and connected with an AC charger, after a few minutes, I did a Reset for the iPod
    How to reset iPod
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61705
    The iPod showed an Apple sign, it stuck there for almost a minute, the screen then showed a battery with an exclamation mark sign, and after a minute, the iPod turned off itself. I was sure that the iPod carried very low battery, and could not be charged by connecting it with any computer (both Mac and PC).
    I decided to let it have a charge with an AC charger for a bit longer, after 10 minute I did the Reset again, this time a sign of folder with exclamation mark showed up after the Apple sign, and again could not get recognized by a computer.
    I changed my mind, and put the iPod into disk mode
    Putting iPod into disk mode
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651
    Instead of connecting with a PC, I plug it with my Mac using a Firewire cable, it did not response, so I switched the cable to an USB, interestingly, the iPod got recognized and a window pop up indicating that the iPod needed to do a Restore. Therefore I clicked “Restore”, after a few seconds, an Error message pop-up with Error Message 1417, the sign that I have been waiting for quite sometime.
    I ejected the iPod and the screen immediately showed a folder exclamation mark (a sign indicating a corrupted or a failure iPod OS). I am forced to put the iPod into disk mode again, connected with the Mac computer and open the Disk Utility
    1. Open the disk utility, hope your iPod appears there (left hand side), highlight it
    2. Go to Tab “Partition”, click either “Delete” or “Partition”, if fails, skip this step and go to 3
    3. Go to Tab “Erase” , choose Volume Format as “MAC OS Extended (Journaled), and click Erase, again if fails, skip it and go to 4
    4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
    5. Eject your iPod and do a Reset
    6. Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”
    It managed to complete the Restore process, and started to sync with the iTunes. However, it got stuck at the song no.238 from the total of 2000. I left it for an hour, but with no process, instead the iPod became “Hot” and the iTunes showed an Error message of 1428. I ejected the iPod from my Mac computer, the iPod’s screen turn to show the famous killer icon;“The Sad iPod“.
    This time it was totally dead, even failed to put it into Disk Mode and non of the computer could recognize it. Sigh, I hated to do it but I knew that I must did the following:-
    Holding the iPod in my Palm, and hitting it on a surface of a Sofa with 5 attempts.
    Did not surprise me, the iPod turned on and it showed the Language Menu on the screen. So, I put it into Disk Mode and connected with my window PC.
    The PC showed a sign and indicated that an USB device had been connected with it. I opened the iTunes and did a Restore there.
    However, an Error Message 50 showed up, but I were not worried about it, connected it back with my Mac computer with it in Disk Mode. As expected the iTunes opened and allowed me to do a Restore there.
    This time it managed to complete the process and a window of register pop up. After the completed the process, the iPod started to sync with the iTunes again, which finally managed to complete the process.
    I left it connecting with the AC charger overnight. In the next morning, I switched it on and have a play with it, I am so glad as it is working like a charm.
    From the above experience, I would like to share it with the user the following:-
    1. It always better to charge with an ac charger instead of the computer, as when an iPod carrying with very low battery, it may not able to get charge from a computer
    2. Try to connect the iPod with a computer, switching between USB and Firewire
    3. Try to format an iPod with HD problem, with a different kind of computer e.g. Mac or PC, as the formats are totally different, the way it formats may able to solve the bad sectors on the HD
    4. It may get better chance to get your iPod recognized, if you put it in Disk Mode
    I hope the following works in your case as I did.

  • Anyone else tired of the "Do Not Disconnect"?

    Is it just me or would many of you like myself like to have an ipod update that changes the "Do Not Disconnect" screen to a nice progress bar.
    I dont know about you, but I think this would solve a lot of problems. Just think of all of the users disconnecting before the screen even changes. Perhaps if there was a progress bar, users would be able to see an estimation of the time remaining.
    This is a Very needed update.

    I do not believe that you fully understand what the 'Do Not Disconnect' message means in all cases.
    If you use your iPod with Disk Mode Enabled, then the 'Do Not Disconnect' message will be present on the screen even if there is nothing being transferred to it at the time. It will remain on the screen until you manually eject it.
    A progress bar would be useless in this regard, since there is no progress to monitor.
    The 'Do Not Disconnect' message works perfectly as it is. I do not see any reason to change its behavior.

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