RAID 0+1 using Promise 378 Controller

I'm having trouble installing two SATA drives in my system and the problem is driving me nuts
I have two existing PATA drives on the Promise controller configured as a RAID0 array, which is working fine with XP SP2. I want to add the two SATA drives (Seagate Barracuda 200Gb SATAs) to the array and configure it to sripe across like drives and mirror across the dissimilar drives. So the two PATA drives are striped and that striped array is mirrored across to the striped pair of SATA drives.
The manuals all state that it's possible to configure the promise controller for 0+1 (which is what I think I need, but when I power up the PC with the SATA drives connected to SER3 & 4, the promise controller doesn't recognise them when configured in bios "as raid". It sees the drives when the controller is configured "as sata", but then the raid bios is bypassed at POST and obviously the boot doesn't happen.
So my question is, am I missing something with the Promise Controller setup, or does the bios version I have not support Raid 0+1. I guess I need an option that says "as sata with raid", which isn't there. Which BIOS version do I need to do this? or is it something else?
Am I being dumb or do I have to delete everything and start again using the intel ICH5R controller?
The two recordable drives are connected as primaries on the two non-raid IDE controllers.
I'm new here, so any help anyone can lend a hand would be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Tony

Hi Danny,
Yes, I did read it, but it did not address my particular situation - i.e. all four drives connected to the promise controller. The bits that do seemed to be saying "look at the manual", which isn't helping me. Last night, I updated the mainboard bios to 2.4, which didn't make any difference, so I'm still stuck.
Thanks for taking the time to reply
Tony

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Promise 378 SATA Raid question

Can someone tell me if my SATA drives are setup correctly given the details below? The only driver that works is the FastTrak 378 (not the SATA 378 driver). I want to make sure I am taking full advantage of my SATA drives. In the Promise setup it shows them operating as "Mode U5". What is this?
Any help appreciated.
My Drive COnfiguration is as follows:
SATA Drives are on SATA3 & SATA4 (Promise 378 Controller)
(as RAID 0 for performance)
Primary IDE Master - Sony DVD/RW
Primary IDE Slave - not used
Secondary IDE Master - ASUS DVD ROM
Secondary IDE Slave - ATA 133 Drive bay (Empty)
3rd IDE Master&Slave - not used
On Board Promise settings
FastTrak 378 BIOS Ver 1.00.0.27
2+0 Stripe - Functional
HIT CTRL+F for setup and
(in the setup it shows RAID 0 Drive Array as Mode U5)
Bios Settings
Boot Device Priority
1 - Floppy
2 - ASUS DVD ROM
3 - BBS-0(RAID):FT 378 Ary 1
On Board Promise IDE - As RAID
On Chip ATA's Operation Mode - Legacy Mode
ATA Configuration - PATA only
SATA Keep enabled - no
* PATA Keep enabled - no
PATA channel selection - both
* Combined Mode Option - PATA First Channel
* SATA Ports Definition - P0-3rd/P1-4th
* Configure SATA as Raid - no
(where * is greyed out)
Bios sees both DVD ROM & Sony DVD/RW
Boot to CDROM
Start Windows 2000 install
F6
"S"
load Promise FastTrak 378 Controller
Windows 2000 setup continues...

Everything looks good to me. Like Danny said though, you will need to change Bios to "Native Mode" for the Intel controller if you ever intend to use the Serial connectors. If not you're fine.
Also it's not clear from your post if you understand that you are using the 2 SATA drives as a Raid array. This gives you better drive performance but increases the chance of losing data. MAKE REGULAR BACKUPS.
The Promise SATA drivers are for using the Serial1&2, IDE3 connectors with single/separate drives where Raid arrays are not used.

Promise 378

Hi there, I have installed Vista home Premium on my Neo 875 mobo. It holds a intel RAID and a promise 378 controller. Everything works, but the promise controller. I have tryed several drivers included the latest I could find. the 1.0.0.39/41 driver. Vista accepts the driver, but is not finalising the installation and freezes. No error codes.
Does anybody have a driver or a workaround, that lets me install so that I can connect my SATA drive on the controller? I am not going to use it in raid, but only as sata controller.
Regards
Neo

Quote from: Neiwintro on 15-February-07, 15:23:08
Hello - I have checked the promise website, but no findings there. as I wrote, i do not use the controller as RAID. I have enabled it in bios as SATA and Vista finds the controller. When I load the driver Vista accepts it, but dont finalize the installation. I have tryed the newest driver from MSI with no luck and a driver 39/41 that others seam to have gotten to work.
I haven´t tryed the one MJ is using. But i will to night - thx.
I have a single 320 GB SATA1 disk on the controller. I worked fine when i had XP installed.
My system is as following:
2 80 GB SATA 1 disks in raid 1 on the intel controller.
a pioneer DVD burner on the first pata controller
1 80 GB PATA om the second pata controller
a 320 sata 1 on the promisecontroller
P4 3 Ghz cpu
1 Gb RAM
And I hope that I can use it until this summer. when I plan to build a new PC
Thx
Neo
I have successfully installed Vista Ultimate on 2xSATA raid 1 on intel controller for testing purpose. The Promise controller without RAID works perfectly with the driver version 1.0.0.26 (which I have used earlier) without any problem. If you need the driver, please drop me an email via emailremovedbymoderator. The driver version 1.0.0.39 has a problem in starting up.
Regards,
MJ
I removed your email address from the post to protect you from spam and such. PM the guy your address to give him the contact.
Frankenputer

Promise 378 RAID controller wierdness

Motherboard: MS-6728 865PE Neo2
Main BIOS: AMI v2.5 29th Sep 2004
Promise 378 BIOS: v1.00.0.27
Disks connected to promise S-ATA RAID connectors: 2 x Seagate ST2500630 500 Gb SATA2
Serious instability in Promise 378 raid. Over a few cold reboots, can get each of the following in the BIOS screen, with no way of predicting which:
RAID OK and functional
Channel 1 fail array critical
Channel 2 fail array critical
I have replaced SATA leads, swapped the disk connectors around, and beefed up the power supply to 850 Watts, but with no joy, and this is before we even get into windows.
If the array actually does identify OK and XP boots, trying to format the drive gives lots of these device timeouts in the system event log:
The device, \Device\Scsi\fasttx2k1, did not respond within the timeout period.
I have downloaded the lowlevel drive utility S/W from the Seagate website, and both drives have checked out OK when connected through the 'normal' ICH5 SATA connectors..
So I've basically I've bought 1 Tb of disk space and an 850W power supply and can't do anything with it. Are the any issuse with these BIOS versions? Any help/suggestions all gratefully received.
Many thanks,
Tony

Yep - both drives got the long version of the Seagate Disk Tools test, and both passed without a hitch. That's five hours of my life I'll never get back.
Anyway - the Promise TX2300 RAID card arrived yesterday, so I disabled the motherboard Promise in the BIOS, installed the card in a spare PCI slot (my last one!), and connected the drives. It turns out that this card also wont recognise the cards at 3 Mb/s, but they worked instantly when the drive jumper was replaced to limit them to 1.5 Mb/s. Partitioned and formatted I now have a working 2 x 500 Gb RAID 1, though I'm going to leave it a week before I move anything important onto it.... er, 'just in case'.
To summarise, the motherboard Promise and this new Promise RAID card use different silicon so their implementations could be different, but neither would talk to the drives at 3 Mb/s. I strongly suspect the Seagate drives have a SATA2 problem. I could easily be wrong of course, but I'm off to the Seagate forums now to try and pin it down.
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I am setup on the Raptor's already and would like to install another HD on the Intel if it can be done like mentioned.
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/D

Ok, I connected to the Intel SATA 1 plug and all is fine. WinXP found the drive, installed it and away I go.
Only other question I have..Is there a specific driver I should use for it now?
It shows up in the Device Manager as Follows in 2 places:
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Help Promise 378 Sata (non raid) Windows install

Ok I am now atempting a fresh WinXP install on my new WD Raptor.
The Problem being that XP setup does not see my Sata drive.
After F6 it gives me the following choices...
"Win2000 Promise Sata378 Controller"
"WinNT Promise Sata378 Controller"
"Win Server 2003 Promise FastTrak 376/378 Controller"
"WinXP Promise FastTrak 376/378 Controller"
The Obvious selection #4 has been tried multiple times, it never see's my Sata drive.
Options 1&2 give error as I did not copy Win2000 and WinNT folders on floppy.
Is XP based on NT or 2000? I dont remember.
Floppy was made according to "makedisk.txt in the 378_55.exe.
Ive tried multiple Bios settings under "On chip Ide configuration"
If you read my earlier post I had a problem with my current Windows install loading raid drivers by default. I think Xp setup is doing the same thing. How do I get it to load Sata drivers instead?
Thinking Promise or MSI (whoever) should have gone to the trouble of configuring seperate files, ie. 378_Raid.exe 378_Sata.exe!
Yes I have Changed boot order to the sata drive. Order is floppy, CD, Sata, Other (yes).
Tried legacy and native modes, Sata only and both etc. etc.
Still think the problem is with the floppy. Probably the "txtsetup.oem" file. But Im not enuff of a wizard to edit it proper.

Check the sata configuration in bios.
I set it in auto (it has auto,disabled enhanced and one more option,i don't remember)
or a 848p neo2-v board and it worked!
If you don't see it recognised by your bios it won't be recognised by windows either!
So don't bother letting it start the boot from cd unless you can see your drive in the bios.
What i suggest is that you continuously press delete at boot,
go into bios, change some settings, press F10, reboot,press delete again and if you still
don't see your drive,try others settings,press F10 etc.
Go into boot from cd,that is, xp installation ONLY AFTER you can see your drive in bios.

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I have a K8T NEO FISR motherboard with two Samsung 80gb SATA drives connected in RAID 0. Things were going along fine for the last several months and suddenly a couple of days ago, something went wrong and one of my drives dropped out of the array. Yes, it was stupid not having a current back-up of my hard drive, but regardless I am now trying to recover my files. They seem to be there, and a couple of different programs I'm playing with seem to be able to recover the files but they are corrupted. In looking at the files, especially JPG's it seems like the way the files are meshed is incorrect, and so I'm trying to find the default settings for the Promise 378 RAID 0 configuration.
I'm trying a program called File Scavenger and its asking for:
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Boot Sector - defaults to 319 but not sure if this is correct
From the way the pictures look, I think perhaps the setting that is causing me the most trouble is the First Sector location for the second drive... but being able to confirm all settings would be rather nice also.
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Arba

Yep - both drives got the long version of the Seagate Disk Tools test, and both passed without a hitch. That's five hours of my life I'll never get back.
Anyway - the Promise TX2300 RAID card arrived yesterday, so I disabled the motherboard Promise in the BIOS, installed the card in a spare PCI slot (my last one!), and connected the drives. It turns out that this card also wont recognise the cards at 3 Mb/s, but they worked instantly when the drive jumper was replaced to limit them to 1.5 Mb/s. Partitioned and formatted I now have a working 2 x 500 Gb RAID 1, though I'm going to leave it a week before I move anything important onto it.... er, 'just in case'.
To summarise, the motherboard Promise and this new Promise RAID card use different silicon so their implementations could be different, but neither would talk to the drives at 3 Mb/s. I strongly suspect the Seagate drives have a SATA2 problem. I could easily be wrong of course, but I'm off to the Seagate forums now to try and pin it down.
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Since Promise 378 s running on PCI bus, while ICH5R SATA has its 100MHz clock locked and independent of overclocking, I am interested to know whether overclocking the PCI bus and hence increase the performance of Promise 378 SATA RAID devices would show any improvement over the ICH5R? ATA100 or ATA133 doesn't make much difference as our HDD nowadays are still running quite slow.

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I am tired of trying by myself, hopefully you guys can help me out Ive been fighting this thing for 2days now and i hate this computer I'm on that feels like 28k dial up.
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i have installed windows on one drive and booted up using the same drivers was able to configure everything was slightly inclined to just say screw it 1 drive it is. but it was a shame since i bought them both to raid 0 em from the start. loaded windows up and even installed drivers.
i also heard that u need to do full format sometimes to get the raid to work if you have tried both raid drivers so i did slow fat format... no avail did it twice. and fast the rest. if you guys know of any boot-able type formating program that i could throw on a floppy disk that would be great too, if thats the case.
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Quote from: asd9000 on 17-May-08, 08:51:19
did all those settings. and have the newest and the disk version of the drivers.
do u guys really think that it not being able to find the driver file a power issue? either way i ll do anything at this point i rewired some stuff where the video card has its own rail and the hard drives have theirs with the cd-rom drive. took out my fan controler and really power hungry after market video card fan replaced with an old 60mm fan.
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William, I don't think I was clear on this. I swapped the controller with a new controller that I had in a spare parts kit. This was at Apple's request.
really, RAID is not a backup...
I'm well aware, but despite my incessant warnings, users will become lulled in to a false sense of security when something "just works" for a very long time. This array wasn't intended to store valuable data that couldn't be lost, but...
It may be possible for Apple to re-create the RAID set, did you ask AppleCare about the possibility?
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I was surprised that this array was lost when there were absolutely no prior signs of a problem and the system was merely shutdown and restarted cleanly. I'm more surprised and quite disappointed to learn that Apple will do nothing else for me (under a Premium Support contract) to attempt to repair a damaged array. When I asked questions about where the RAID information is stored, I received the answers: "I can't tell you that" and "Apple doesn't release that information". I did not get the feeling that they were working with me, but rather holding my hand while they walked me through published documentation.
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