RAID or Server Backup?

I am working on medical office in which they have a RAID 1 for the operating system (Windows Server 2008 R2) and a solo drive for the databases (2). The second drive does not have any RAID and I was going to to buy a new HDD to do another RAID 1, but I found
out that the second HDD was a WD Green drive and should not be used for a RAID.
At this point I called WD and they confirmed that the Red ones are the ones for RAID but then I will have to buy 2 drives and move the data from the green one to one of the red one to make the RAID. 
In the other hand I can use the server back-up tool to back-up the data but I don't think that's the best way to do it. 
Is it better using Server Back-up or do the RAID Mirror?

the idea of raid is it would give you redundant data if the existing hard drive became corrupt or crashes backup will not do that for you, you should always have a backup whether you have raid or not.  so your question is kind of off base.
If you are already using green drive for a data drive you probably are not getting very good performance out of it so upgrading to two red drive would be the best solution because you would get better performance out of system, but if you must you could
get anther green drive and raid them, they don't recommend it but it will work, you would want to look for the same model that you currently have so they play together nicely.
Another option would be to not actually mirror but put the second drive in and use NFS or some other sync tool to make a copys of the data between them real time, this will work if you are talking about non exchange and non sql data on the data drive.

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