RAID performance is poor on the K8N NEO NF4 SLi mobo...why?

I reccently downloaded and purchased pcmark05 to keep tabs on my system performance, I have 2 wd800jb/se ide in raid'0', isn't there supposed to be a performance gain with using raid?, is it a hardware or software version of raid that is used with my motherboard?, reason I ask is because I took a 50% performance hit configuring these 2 hd in raid as opposed to just using them straight up without raid, is it the nvidia raid controller or raid/ide drivers screwing up and making this so?, hell I don't know, I spent a couple of hours trying to find some specific information on this, I have to admit my knoweldge is very limited in the hd aspect, I don't really know the differences between sata, and ide other then they use different apetures, and sata is a newer more current technology, I know how to oc, set up ram or configure a system, but like I said I honestly don't know much about hard drives or what is fater or how to optimally set them up, I still manage to score 4400 on pcmark05 which is pretty good when the only lagging aspect is the hard drive performance, people who are scoring half of what I'am still are getting twice as high marks in the hard drive test.
In fact I failed to find one score out of a couple of hundred that I came anywhere close to their marks, it is a shame cause otherwise I have a very tight system, just so you know I'am being realistic here, I don't exspect to get better performane the a w740 raptor, does anyone have any ideas or suggestions.....if not where would be a good site on the subject...Thanks
none raid bench result with one wd800jb http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=198218
raid'o' 2 wd800jb bench result http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=196491 note there is an 800 point difference, I hought raid was supposed to enhance performance somewhat

Well, I need to update my sig, I have only one 7800gt, sli hasn't always lived up to it's potential, so I would think I'am within the power requirements now/then, 460 should be more then enough, as far as my overclock goes other then some random crashes when I was FIRST setting up the oc, which btw is normal when you are finding the acceptable limits of the cpu/memory and then backing down into a good stable oc, would a 45% overclock really cause this poor performance in RAID?, cause honestly, my system is rock solid stable at it's current settings, cpu is 33 at idle and 40-42 under load, the ram is beyond specs but like I said it has been put thru every stress test I could get my hands on here are some everest reports if it helps to give you an idea......

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Where did bios version 3.6 go for K8N Neo PL/SLI ??

I checked the bios update page and they seemed to have removed 3.6!? The latest downloadable is 3.4? I'm using 3.6 at the moment should I be downgrading? I am having trouble with cool n quiet, and ncq with the 3.6 bios...

No problems here with 3.6 BIOS - I have been running BIOS 3.6 in my MSI7100 (K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI) since 8/22/05 - I'm listening to music using my onboard sound right now. However, the onboard sound is different than the Neo4-f board that nheimler has. I have not checked if NCQ or C'nQ are working.
BTW, alphamodel, I notice from your sig that you are using an Antec Sonata II case with the MSI7100 mobo - this comes stock with their SMARTPOWER 2.0 450W power supply. According to Antec's specs this supply does not provide a -5V output which is required for the K8N Neo4 Pt/SLI mobo (MSI user guide, page 2-10, note 'MSI Reminds you...' at bottom of page). I assume you are not having any problems with this PSU - or did you change it or has MSI made a change to the mobo?
I have an original Sonata (not II) that comes with a True380S that DOES have a -5V output and was considering upgrading to the larger PSU but had a problem in that it does not specify a -5V output.
Thx,
ss
Seup is:
MSI7100 (K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI)
AMD Venice 3500+, Zalman 7000 AlCu cooler
No O/C
2 x 1 GB Geil RAM (PC3200 3-4-4-8)
Radeon X300
2 x WD Raptor 74 GB (not RAID)
2 x Seagate 250 GB SATA (on SiL 3132 soft RAID controller)
Antec Sonata Case w/True380S PSU
Win XP32/SP2

Does the K8N Neo-FSR support the mobile chip out of the box

just like the titles says
does the K8N Neo-FSR support the mobile clawhammer out of the box.?
if not what bios would i need,. or can anyone confirm what bios is being shipped on these motheboards now.

Jim,
From what I've read, there are updates to the memory controller and the addition of SSE3 support to Venice. It's also reported to have some performance improvement over Winchester and Newcastle. It will use a default 1.4v VCore. Hopefully, It's power comsumption is on the same order as the 90nm Winchester's or less.
If Monarch is shipping the combo with available Bios, you can bet they work. I'm thinking of giving them a call on mine to transfer the 2yr warranty to my youngest daughter (it's a graduation gift) and to discuss the Bios 3.3 vs. 3.3B3 issues. They shipped mine with B3, and I think there may be a reason. The B3 works great with a simple WPCRSET patch of the CAS to RAS Delay. That's why you see those memory settings working on mine.
On the "boxed" vs. OEM, I think buying the combo with warranty and a better heatsink is a much better choice. Use the Venus 7+ in my specs. It's low profile, all copper, and one of the highest rated. Monarch has it in their configurator. It's as quiet as AMD's. Monarch also gives you a 30 day free return with a Fedex prepaid shipping label in the package.
Danno

Which bios savior for the k8n neo chip???

I'm not sure which chip is in the k8n neo platinum so I hope someone knows....here's the link to the bios saviors http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/scan/se=Electronics/se=IOSS%20BIOS%20Savior/mp=menu_search.html

i have an ioss rd1-pmc4 bios saviour so i popt the bios chip out of my board and the chips look identical. i did not try it in though as i only got my cpu and motherboard the other day.will try soon

Is a 24 pin atx cable needed for the k8n neo 4 platinum?

i have a Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480 Watt PSU. i am thinking about upgrading from an msi k7n2 delta to the k8n neo 4 platinum motherboard.
if i do this, do i need this adaptor cable?

Quote from: Deathstalker on 08-June-05, 22:18:54
ryansebiz,
That Power Supply has the 24 Pin Cable as part of its cables. You do not need any adapters.
Take Care,
Richard
thanks richard, you saved me $11 on a cable adaptor

MOVED: Looking for feedback on K8N Neo NF4 Platinum SLI, LUV THIS BOARD

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Looking for feedback on K8N Neo NF4 Platinum SLI, LUV THIS BOARD

Im no pro but with your raid setup you need to stay with bios 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2. I understand that 3.3 & 3.4 causes problems but the new 3.53 beta bios fixes the problems in 3.3 & 3.4. See below:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=80933.120
Regarding your pcie clock, if you are using coolbits and nvidia drivers only (no MSI drivers at all), then I have used nvidia's ntune to help set the clock. For my x1 msi 6600gt, working backwards from the bus speed optimization it equalled to 106...but I am really not good at this and you should post your question under the VGA portion of this forum for a better answer to that 1 question.
However, using MSI's DOT works well too and its automated.
Btw, the pcie setting has nothing to do with your cpu/memory overclock.

X2 3800+ (E6) support for the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI

Hi everyone:
I have decided to purchase the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (MS-7100-020) and I ready placed the order. However, I wonder if it supports the AMD X2 3800+ (E6 Version) CPU? The reason I asked the question because I found the following table from the Taiwan MSI web site which shows that X2 3800+ E6 is undertesting.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
Thank you for any replies.

Mine worked, ran for 2 weeks already at stock, tried & ran to 2.2GHz on stock HSF with no problem.
Using X2 3800+ E6, MSI K8N PLI Platinum mobo, 3.7 bios & Inno3D 7800GTX single latest nvidia 78 drivers, 2x512MB DDR400 CL2.5 Kingston Ram, Hitachi T7K250 Sata 250GB HDD, NEC ND-3530A Benq 1640, , Silverstone Zeus 650W PSU
At first I have this concern too, but tried it anyway.
See my screenshots for your info.

Better HSF for the K8N Neo Plat?

I have been looking at a few HSF's for about a month now, and I'm still not sure if I will buy it now or not but I will sooner or later, but these are the two that I have seen suggested the most, and seem to be the best (that don't sound like a vacuum):
Zalman 7000-CU= $38.50
or
Thermalright XP-90= $39.99
and keep in mind that the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan so that will be an extra $5.
So which one should I get?
Specs in sig
EDIT: Also if you don't like either one of these, could you suggest an alternative.
Thanks

I have the copper/aluminum Zalman CNPS7000A-ALCU Pure Copper/Pure Aluminum CPU Cooler which ihas lowered my temp greatly. It's only $34.99 with free 2nd day shipping from ZipZoomFly.com. They have great prices and you can't beat the shipping.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=371002
Just note that you will have to remove the backplate from the Neo motherboard but if you use a plastic spatula and hair dryer it comes off very easily. Just keep firm but not hard pressure lift on the plate while using hair dryer. I was a little heavy handed and it made a sickening sound when it came off. Nothing bad to board as it was only the sticky stuff letting go.
Again, great HSF especially if you use Artic Silver5 with it. I connected mine to existing motherboard connection and used the included speed controller to slow down my 120mm input fan a little.
Rick
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HSF on Nvidia/NB (29c)
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It's my PSU enough for the K8N Neo 4 Plat. Sli

I have an Nspire PSU 450W
+12 25A
+5 40A
+3.3 28A
It is enough for...
K8N Neo 4 Platinum Sli
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
MSI NX6600GT-TD128E
PCI Video Capture card
Zalman Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler
HD SeaGate Barracuda 120GB
CD-ROM
DVD/CD-RW
??????????????????????????

Dude, if you're even thinking about SLI on your new K8N Neo 4 Platinum SLI mobo, you should forget about that Aspire PSU (unless you want to fry everything in your Rig) and bite the bullet and get a PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool® 510 SLI (510W) http://www.frozencpu.com/psu-151.html.

[AMD] Whats the best BIOS for overclocking on the K8N Neo-2 Platinum

any one know which one is best.
thanks

I have no idea what biosversion that is the best in general for OC the K8N Neo2 P.
I use 1.5 and it´s the only version I´ve used.
I believe not many people have tested OC potential for all 6 versions 1.0 - 1.5.
( even more if you include the beta´s).
I would say OC potential depends more of what hardware you are going to use.
Good RAM and a good CPU stepping are in most cases more important then biosversions.

MSI K8N Neo 4-F Mobo/AMD64 3200+ and OCZ 3200 FREEZE HELP!

I have an AMD64 Winchester 3200+ Processor running on a MSI K8N Neo 4 -F Motherboard. Initially I ran 2 256MB PC-3200 2-3-3-6 modules. When I tried to install Windows it would freeze.. After 3 different attempts I finally got Windows installed, but the freezing continued. Typically it seemed to freeze whenever I installed a Program from CD. For example Office 2003 and was a nightmare. I tried numerous things to stop my problem, but in the end found the only solution was to switch out my two OCZ modules with 1 Muskin 512MB 2.5 3 3 8. Once I did that it ran fine, not as responsive as the OCZ modules but it didnt freeze! So I put the two OCZ modules back in, removed the Muskin and set the timings manually to match those that the Muskin was running on. They seemed fine for awhile, but eventually froze. Once restarted, samething occured. Now I am back on the Muskin RAM. I had planned to order 2 more of the OCZ modules to take myself to 1GB, but obviously that isnt going to work. I am a tad bit stressed out over this. Could the freezing be caused by the memory? I am concerned the memory isnt the issue and that I may have a bigger problem... I am open to ANY advice! I have done alot of googling with no help.

Hi there,
You'd better install windows again, format the drive and reinstall, and in that instalation it should not freeze, if it does then something is wrong, you shouldn't continue the instalation because one of the most common symptoms of a not stable system is a not smooth win instalation.
Let us know of the mem model number so we can help you further, because some of the memory modules from OCZ need alot of Volts to work stable, it can get to 3.0v.
Let us know the mem model e what PSU you have and Amps on it.
Be well....

Buying a K8N Neo 4 Platinum mobo - need some answers

Hi,
First post here, so I should say I did a search and did actually read the stickys.
Like I said, I'm getting the MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum and need to know:
1. Does it support NCQ?
2. Can I use "PDP SYSTEMS Memory Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB (512MBx2) DDR PC-3200, Model PDC1G3200LLK" with it?
(And have it working @ 2-3-2-5-T1 Dual Channel like it should without OC)
2.1 Can I use 4 dimms of this memory without going down to 333mhz?
3. I'll also get a 6600GT, DVD-RAM,DVD-ROM, 200GB HD - which PSU I should go with?
I wanted to get a TT410W, but heard I should go with "Enermax 350W EG365P-VE FMA 20/24Pin Power Supply" because it gives higher 12V rail power.
I dont plan on doing OC
Thanks in advance for your answers, and sorry about my english.

Quote from: kctay on 10-March-05, 02:14:51
Chrisss,
I think that Tiresmoke's point is that your statements aren't productive, I don't see a history of you trying to ask any of the well versed vetrans here for any help regarding the stability of your system, or inherent problems with the mobo in question. You also don't even list the components that make up your system in your signature which might allow someone to help you without you even asking a valid question.
Statements like this; "I have so many stability issues it's not even funny. I have not overvlocked anything and the PC crashes randomly." simply aren't meaningful without knowing the pertenent facst surrounding your issues. Furthermore, the problems you have may have nothing whatsoever to do with the motherboard.
Sixth, this is a good motherboard for your stated needs, I run the SLI version and have nothing but positive things to say about it. I did extensive research before buying this product, and it really paid off, this is a great motherboard.
Actually yes i did ask: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=75700.0 But only one person helped me. It could be that the SLI version is more stable. Just read the posts. there are a lot of people with issues with the K8N Neo4 Platinum. Not too many with the SLI. So it's not only me.

How are some guys running an Athlon 3800+ X2 chip on the K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI?

I see many people running an AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2 Dual Core proccessor on a K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI board, but mine dosen't work. I don't get any signal to my monitor (don't know if this is the cause). MSI says the 3800+X2 dosen't support the SLI board, but many people got it to work. Any one know how?

Mine working fine, but on cold boot, sometime it hang on me. I have changed 3 PSU to get it stable, from Coolermaster 450W, Be Quiet 520W to Silverstone 650W, ambient 25C, CPU 30C, Proc 37C.
Bios 3.7 the one they are still testing.
Have you check you PSU rails volt., disable CnQ,....
So far stable, multiple programs at once with no significant drop in responseness & speed, Half Life 2, P2P downloading x2, IE x 3, encode DVD at the same time.

OCZ PC4200 Performance Series and the K8N Neo Platinum

I'm going to be building a new PC soon and i've decided on the Neo Platinum but i don't know if the memory i've decided on will work or not (i've been hearing a lot of mixed opinions): OCZ PC4200 Performance Series
Can anyone help?

I have no first hand experience on whether or not that particular ram will work or not. However, I believe somewhere OCZ tech states that their EB line of ram is more suited for the AMD 64 line.
That being said I would find ram with tight timings. I have used OCZ Tech 3700 gold Rev 2 with no problems. Right now I am using Kingmax Hardcore DDR 500. Im using timings of 2.5-3-3-5 1T @ 2.8V. I found that enabling 1T timing had a pretty good impact on how the system performed.
There is a noticible difference (for me anyways) between 3-4-4-8 2T and 2.5-3-3-5 1T timings. Benchmarks, UD grid, etc all improved with the tighter timings. The A64 likes low latency ram, I suggest you cater to its needs.
Quite a few people have had good luck with Crucial Ballistix ram also. But for the money the kingmax was a great deal to me. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Major problems I am having with the K8N neo platinum:(:(

Hiya all,
I bought this K8N motherboard two weeks ago and at first I seemed very happy with it, but when fulfilling the final steps in the installation of my PC(being installing of all my important games, voice over IP software, firewalls, security etc)I started noticing some very very disturbing things.
First of all, my onboard sound is totally unusable for online gaming, my microphone cannot be set up no matter what combinations of options I use. The sound is just messed up. When i and my friend enter our ventrilo server and he starts speaking he hears himself 10 times in an echo, and its not him thats causing this its me. When another friend joins and i leave all is just fine(hence i am the cause). Also to try and fix this problem i bought a soundblaster live 5.1. I can install it under windows XP but for the life of me I cannot get my microphone to lit up my ventrilo voicechat thus my voice is not recognized and not processed, so this then also does not work, 2 methods to get voice over IP working and none of them work??? I will award MSI the nobel price of irony for that.
Secondly, all punkbuster related online games have become totally unplayable. At first I got very annoying freezes every 2-3 minutes, it lasts a few secs and then i can play on for 2-3 more minutes until it happens again, and again and again....... Now I fixed that particular problem by downloading specially modified Call of Duty 3.9 ATI catalyst drivers but the fun doesn't stop there. Now when I play games I get strokes of extreme choppyness in an online game like Enemy Territory. When setting my fps to a steady 76fps and seeing it stay that way and knowing it can easily stay stable even at 100fps is what I find very very weird. So my comp runs very smooth, but lo and behold there is still choppy performance, other players struttling ahead as if all of them have major lag(while all sport pings of ~20-40).
When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
Now with my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz and my exact same radeon I did not have any of these problems, its a slower comp but it still runs these online games 10x smoother??? I have noticed however that it is indeed mainly related to punkbuster or opengl related games. And as far as I can tell, only ATI suffers from it, since my friend who has exactly the same setup as me runs supersmooth with no lag whatsoever. All he has diff from me is his graphics card, which is nvidia???
Am I now forced to shell out another 300$ for an nvidia based card that matches the speed of my 9800 pro?? This whole buying of the MSI has grown into quite the ordeal.
Thirdly, I am also noticing some strange temps on my CPU, i have a zalman CPS7000A-alcu and it should cool better than stock, but after 4 reseats and applying of AS5(applied according to their instructions on site)it still gives me temps of 59°C at full load????? I find this really really high, and I do know i applied the paste very very good. I can tell cuz after I reseated it a few times each time you can clearly see how good it has spread towards all the edges. And its a fine thin layer, so no probs on my end. I am doing all this by the book and with greatest care.
As I am a clanbase player, and a very good one at that, I am seriously hampered in my gaming experience. While I used to get killed/deaths ratios of on average K:60-90+ /D:11-20 on my P4 for Enemy Territory I now have a very hard time even getting on K:50 D:32 each level. This is a serious dent in my budget as well since now for sanctioned events I will have to buy a new comp just to be able to play to my old standards:(:(:(
I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
Sad very sad how they treat us poor dumb customers these days,
Regards,
A disgruntled MSI buyer
PS : I said above this problem is mainly related to ATI based cards but when you try to tell me i should try new drivers then plz don't go there cuz I tried everything from omega to iota and nothing works, the only thing that even stops the freezing is the specially modded drivers some dude fixed up. But it still leave me with crappy performance.

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Originally posted by Capcom
Hiya all,
I bought this K8N motherboard two weeks ago and at first I seemed very happy with it, but when fulfilling the final steps in the installation of my PC(being installing of all my important games, voice over IP software, firewalls, security etc)I started noticing some very very disturbing things.
First of all, my onboard sound is totally unusable for online gaming, my microphone cannot be set up no matter what combinations of options I use. The sound is just messed up. When i and my friend enter our ventrilo server and he starts speaking he hears himself 10 times in an echo, and its not him thats causing this its me. When another friend joins and i leave all is just fine(hence i am the cause). Also to try and fix this problem i bought a soundblaster live 5.1. I can install it under windows XP but for the life of me I cannot get my microphone to lit up my ventrilo voicechat thus my voice is not recognized and not processed, so this then also does not work, 2 methods to get voice over IP working and none of them work??? I will award MSI the nobel price of irony for that.
Secondly, all punkbuster related online games have become totally unplayable. At first I got very annoying freezes every 2-3 minutes, it lasts a few secs and then i can play on for 2-3 more minutes until it happens again, and again and again....... Now I fixed that particular problem by downloading specially modified Call of Duty 3.9 ATI catalyst drivers but the fun doesn't stop there. Now when I play games I get strokes of extreme choppyness in an online game like Enemy Territory. When setting my fps to a steady 76fps and seeing it stay that way and knowing it can easily stay stable even at 100fps is what I find very very weird. So my comp runs very smooth, but lo and behold there is still choppy performance, other players struttling ahead as if all of them have major lag(while all sport pings of ~20-40).
When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
Now with my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz and my exact same radeon I did not have any of these problems, its a slower comp but it still runs these online games 10x smoother??? I have noticed however that it is indeed mainly related to punkbuster or opengl related games. And as far as I can tell, only ATI suffers from it, since my friend who has exactly the same setup as me runs supersmooth with no lag whatsoever. All he has diff from me is his graphics card, which is nvidia???
Am I now forced to shell out another 300$ for an nvidia based card that matches the speed of my 9800 pro?? This whole buying of the MSI has grown into quite the ordeal.
Thirdly, I am also noticing some strange temps on my CPU, i have a zalman CPS7000A-alcu and it should cool better than stock, but after 4 reseats and applying of AS5(applied according to their instructions on site)it still gives me temps of 59°C at full load????? I find this really really high, and I do know i applied the paste very very good. I can tell cuz after I reseated it a few times each time you can clearly see how good it has spread towards all the edges. And its a fine thin layer, so no probs on my end. I am doing all this by the book and with greatest care.
As I am a clanbase player, and a very good one at that, I am seriously hampered in my gaming experience. While I used to get killed/deaths ratios of on average K:60-90+ /D:11-20 on my P4 for Enemy Territory I now have a very hard time even getting on K:50 D:32 each level. This is a serious dent in my budget as well since now for sanctioned events I will have to buy a new comp just to be able to play to my old standards:(:(:(
I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
Sad very sad how they treat us poor dumb customers these days,
Regards,
A disgruntled MSI buyer
If you would like to submit a list, numbered (1, 2, 3, 4) with problems and your complete configuration, I'd be happy (along with others) to go through and find the problems for you.
If you just want to post a rant with "MSI Sucks" and admit your a chump for doing a stupid thing like buying an MSI boar: Then just return it please. Save others the trouble and get your money back.
That way you are happy, and don't have such a high stress level.

RAID performance is poor on the K8N NEO NF4 SLi mobo...why?

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