RAM freq under Bios 1.37

I am currently running 16GB Hyperx pnp at 1600MHz. My bios is v1.36. Has anyone confirmed that v1.37 sticks with 1333MHz config? Is it permanent?
W520 i7-2760, FHD, Win7 Pro&Ubuntu 12.04, Q1000M, M4 256GB, Hitachi 500GB 7200RPM, 16GB HyperX PNP, Ultimate-N 6300, BT|
T61 Intel Duo T7300, Ubuntu 10.04, Hitachi 500GB 7200RPM, 4GB

My tests with the W520:
Geekbench 9358 with BIOS 1.36 (memory runs at 1600 Mhz)
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/788560
Geekbench 9308 with BIOS 1.37 (memory runs at 1333 Mhz)
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/788372
4575 PCMark 7 with BIOS 1.36
http://3dmark.com/pcm7/374878?key=-ZNaXr3xd4uSmmv9wzyuhg
4558 PCMark 7 with BIOS 1.37
http://3dmark.com/pcm7/374262?key=ujQS6W0lgBOncgFCKfk1EQ
PS: I believe the reason there is not so much difference is that with 1333MHz the Column Address Strobe (CAS) latency is lower.
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MOVED: 1 beep at startup, DRAM refresh failure? Board/RAM problem? Bios needs changing?

This topic has been moved to Intel Core-iX boards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=142656.0

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