Ram or PSU problem

I just brought a K7N2 Delta ILSR with an Athlon XP 2800, its been a week now and im having nothing but problems with this board.
I when i replaced my old processor and motherboard everything was working fine....for the first 10 minutes(if im lucky).
When i set the FSB to 166 my computer will crash, reboot or not load windows XP at all, even freezes in the bios sometimes but when i set it to 133 which takes the processor down to 2200+ everything is fine. I have tried changing the ram 4 times and im getting the same problem at 166. These are the types of ram I have tried
Hynix PC2100 256MB DDR 266MHZ CL2.5
Nanya PC2100 256MB DDR 266MHZ CL2.5
Samsung PC3200 512MB DDR 400MHZ CL2.5(made in Korea)K4H560838E-TCC4
Crucial PC2700 512MB DDR 333MHZ CL2.5 CT6464Z335.
All of these I have tried in different memory banks running alone.
I ran memtest when my computer was set to 166, its crashed at 5%, set it to 133 and tried again, completed tests with no errors.
Ive tried 3 CPU fans with the paste, disconnecting all the hardware apart from the HD and graphics card(Geforce 4 4200ti 64MB AGP X4) as im using a 300W power supply, played around with the mem timings, updated the bios through dos and none have worked.
So can anyone give me some help please in what to do, Ive spent so much on on buying different hardware nothing is working and I dont want to spend more money on buying a new power supply if the computer will still crash.

Please list the corresponding Amperages on the +12v, +5v, & +12v lines on your new PSU, should be on the sticker.
You said something about getting Kingston RAM, as Deathstalker mentions
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malachi,
A word of warning, Kingston is hit or miss at best with nForce.
You could be recreating the same problem by picking up incompatable RAM and underpowered PSU's Even though a PSU maker claims it's a 400w, doesn't mean anything untill you look at the amperages and figure out what the combined wattage is and what it's continuous load capabilities are.
If all is well and you can't find RAM to work properly or get the CPU to run at 166 if it is in fact a Barton, then you need to look to the board or the CPU. It may server you better to take it to a tech near you that is familiar with that setup, I don't know your location so I do not know the availability of such a service in your area.
Either that or you end up spending even more money/time on troubleshooting it further.
So lets have the corresponding amperages on that PSU for starters.

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The decision of which rails are used to power the system components is actually up to the designer of the mainboard (the rails are used to feed the mobo's regulators which further modify/maintain voltages). You must check with the manufacturer (not something one usually finds in the manual).
But speaking in general terms, the +3.3 is used for memory and USB, +5.0 for electronics (PCI and drives) and the +12.0 for CPU and motors. (Some mobos for AMD use the +5.0 to power the cpu).
You did not mention the TCO, but looking at the max amps for the +3.3 and for the +5.0, I doubt it even reaches 170W. (In most PSU designs, the +3.3 and +5.0 rails are fed from a common source, and power drawn on the one rail is at the cost of power available on the other - so if you were to draw the maximum 125W on the +5.0, there likely is very little left for the +3.3).
Symptoms of insufficient power are characterized by their lack of character! In other words, they are sporatic, capricious, inexplicable and random. If the voltage on the +5.0 drops enough, the mobo will reset the CPU (a 'sudden' reboot).
Your voltage readings already indicate insufficient power; if your memory is on two sticks, remove one (or if you have devices powered through the USB, disconnet them) to test the theory by reducing the load.

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let me start with a short description of my problem:
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Also, i monitor RAM consumption using the Memory Clean app. there are like only 3.60 gb free space out of 8. is it ok?
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