RAM upgrade and other queries for 13" Macbook (Late 2006)

Hi everyone,
I have read many posts on these forums (very informative I must add) but I need your help in clarifying a few issues. I have a 13.3" white Macbook which I purchased in May 2007 - 2 GHz Core 2 Duo, 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, 80 GB HDD. I plan on upgrading from my current OS 10.4.11 to 10.6 Snow Leopard in a few weeks. My issues:
1. Upgrade RAM to the max allotment. I read on Apple support (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1651) that I can only go up to 2 GB RAM for my MB model. However various folks in this forum as well as 3rd party vendors dispute this for up to 3.3 GB RAM - via two 2 GB RAM memory. Can someone validate this? I plan to purchase memory from OWC.
2. My laptop fan is running more frequently than normal. Should I worry about this? I don't see any abnormal usage in Activity Monitor. Any thoughts?
3. I have clocked 312 battery recharge cycles on my MB battery. A couple of times the laptop shutdown when there was 15 mins charge remaining. Anyway the past few weeks I have kept the power cord plugged in since I don't move much. I read somewhere this bypasses the battery once the charge is complete. Is this true? Is there a battery recharge cycle count when its advisable to replace the battery?
Thanks in advance for the help guys. My MB has served me well and I really want to continue on this machine rather than doling out more $$ for a new MB.
Best,
Wal (SD)

I have about 20GB free space out of a total of 80 GB HD. At this moment I don't plan on increasing the HD space. But after installing OS 10.6, if the fan speed issue continues then I may invest in a new HD. My assumption is installing OS 1.6 will free up some space and I am hoping that will keep me comfortable.
Reg. my battery, yeah it has lasted for over 2.5 yrs. So I am happy about that. But I hear what you are saying. Perhaps I will get a new battery. Are there any longer lasting batteries introduced for the late '06 MB? A full charge lasts me about 3 hours - assuming I don't run any data or video intensive apps.
Thanks again for your advice!

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When upgrading an OS on a Windows, you pretty much format the harddrive and start all over. Back in the day I was a PC user, there wasn't really a "great" way to back up programs and files, so this was a nightmare. You could NOT just back-up software. You typically had to re-purchase and install it all from scratch. Is this the same with Macs? Furthermore, personal files were scattered all over the hard-drive for the individual software...so trying to back all that up to get it back on the new system = nightmare! I hate PCs.
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Videos online at YouTube.
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You need to backup regardless, I suggest a manual backup of users files to a storage drive, a 10.5 clone on another drive, the your ready to upgrade to 10.6
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No need to restore, OS X upgrades and leaves everything else in place, just some programs (with 10.6) or a lot (with 10.7) when you try to launch them they will fail.
Also when you connect TM it will do a substancial change to reflect the new boot drive.
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But in any event, my external drive crashed a few months ago, and I haven't replaced it, yet. So, I am replacing it soon and will get Time Machine back up and running...setting it up again, etc...leading to question C..
You need not only TM drive, but a bootable clone and user files on a storage drive.
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No, depending upon what OS X version you stop at depends how many programs no longer work.
You will have to buy a lot of new or upgrade versions with 10.7, not so with 10.6 only updates mostly because of Rosetta on 10.6 and not on 10.7
My opinion, since that machine is a bit dated, is to upgrade to 10.6, Software update to 10.6.8, and stay there.
Later on 10.8 is being released after this summer, you may want to consider getting a new machine with 10.8 a few months later to ensure all the bugs are worked out of it.
Your not a comptuer savvy person, you like most Apple users expect your machine to "just work" I think going to 10.7 will be a bad experience for you.
10.6.8 will server your needs until 10.8 is released and on new hardware where Apple will hold your hand for free for three months, 3 years with AppleCare.
Your not a "OS X upgrader type of a person" and Apple needs to get of thier collective assets and pay better attention to it's most common users.

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