Random Audio Render--deleted audio reappearing

When I adjust audio (i.e. change levels, in and out points, effects) on a section of audio that has already been rendered it oftentimes will not adjustment appropriately. It is like FCP uses the old rendered audio information and mashes it with the new. Sometimes the results are random bits of audio that pop in where they are not supposed to be--sometimes I have deleted the audio files from all tracks entirely and FCP still plays the audio like it is there.
I have had this problem for quite a while. I've deleted every render file on my computer, started new sequences, etc. This is clearly a bug--anyone found a fix?

maybe it has something to do with checking the render menu audio selections (for playback) or (item level)?

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I've unistalled Soundflower, emptied my cache and deleted old render files.
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We can not see your computer, your settings or even know what your source files are because we are not in the same room as you are!
We cant see what you are doing wrong ...so you will have to tell us a lot more and show us some screen grabs of your settings.

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I could do a MP3 to WAV conversion, but that defeats the
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How to Delete Audio Permanently ? Logic or Peak

hi, when you double-click an audio region in the arrange, it's opens for
editing. You delete some audio, save. Close the Logic file. Quit Logic.
BUT you could later get the audio back by start logic, open that song,
open the audio editor and choose "undo" and like magice the previously
deleted audio reappears.
I want it gone, forever, unrecoverable.
I've deleted the "LogicSampleUndo" files, i've Emptied the Trash per
page 90 of the ref manual.
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thank you for the reply,
but,
I meant that I want to delete a "protion" of an audio file. This is why I use Logic's sample editor.
Example, a voice dialog that lasts 8 bars. I was to delete, permanantly, the last 2 bars.
Normally, I would open the audio file in the sample editor, select the last 2 bars and hit
the delete key, Logic will show that it's "moving samples" and will warn that I am about to
delete. I hit yes, or delete and the waveform display updates to show that the last 2 bars
are deleted.
But under undo I can aways get the last 2 bars back. I want to NEVER get them back.
Empty the Logic trash?
Kill the undo?
What hidden file?

Audio Render

Am I to understand that it is safe to delete audio render and render files? This will not cause a problem when I go to re-open the project? Just want to be sure.
Thanks.

Assuming all your original media is still in place, the only "problem" you'll experience is the need to re-create the render files as part of further work on the project.

Unbelievably slow audio render times!

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It seems to me that there is a bigger problem than whether or not we are flattening, nesting or locking our tracks. It shouldn’t take as long as it is taking for some of us to render audio!!!
I only experienced this problem one time. I am not even sure what I did to change the outcome on the same project that I have since edited and rendered many times. But now the audio renders very quickly (less than a minute). I will say that in almost all cases my music videos have different audio sources (44.1KHz, 48KHz 16bit, 48KHz 24bit, and 96KHz 24bit) and that I set all my sequences to 96KHz since my master audio sources are recorded at that. I use an external firewire RME Fireface 800 using RME ASIO divers to handle all audio. I do find that this setup can be stubborn in that there are times PPro CC doesn’t know what to do regarding my audio so simply won’t allow me to play any track. When this happens I simply remind PPro CC of my settings by going to Edit/Preferences/Audio Hardware then check that the Adobe Desktop Audio is set to ASIO FireFace and click on ASIO Settings to check that the buffer size and sample rate are correct. If they are not I read the flash from the RME and all is good.
But I diverge, there is a problem Adobe and it needs to be fixed. This never happened to me using CS6…

Deleting audio file on device + Mac once and for all

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Hi and good day,
I don't listen much to music, but mostly audio files (radio programmes etc.)
But there is still one big drawback with iTunes:
What I want to do is to be able to __delete__ an audio file (or song)
on my iPad/iPod/iPhone (the Mac Library is there via Home Sharing)
once and for all:
I don't want to have to go back to iTunes and delete them there.
I want to delete them on the device and forget about them!
Please Apple it's about time.
Any suggestions welcome!
with best regards,
Omar KN
Stockholm, Sweden

Hi
i would say use Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/macosx/
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rickeyt
Thanks for the reply. Great news about the volume adjusts.
Now about those fades for the volume. How are you doing that?
1. Right click the Timeline video audio and select Fade and then
see the Fade options (I had a video with audio file, so I saw the choices as shown in the screenshot)
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ATR

How can I reinsert the deleted audio from clips in my sequence?

How can I reinsert the deleted audio from clips in my sequence?

I can tell you a work around to get you going in the meantime, just may be time consuming if you have a lot of clips in the timeline.
double click a clip missing audio
press the go to in point and copy the timecode to notepad
press the go to end point and copy timecode
right click clip, and reveal in project
double click the original in project
paste in timecode and set in & out points again
drag audio
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Forced to render same audio every time I export

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If I try to export from a new timeline that includes bits of these nested sequences, the audio render gets held up indefinitely. It seems that to export any small clip, I need to open up all the original source timelines and rerender their audio individually, then render the working sequence. This takes up a huge amount of time and is really killing me.
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Thank you for your reply regardless!!!
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togge
Great news about the audio.
Is this premade art made by you or by Adobe which offers it under Titles & Text Tab?
About the Adobe Titles & Text premade art over a still...keeping in mind that the Quick workspace is not my preferred workspace.
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