Randomly turns itself off, and won't restart.

OK, I know the shutdown issue can be fixed with a firmware update, but I think I might have another issue from what I have heard described in these posts.
I have had my macbook since July, so it's 5 months old and I’ve been seeing the following issues for the last 2-3 months.
I have been seeing a lot of random shutdowns (maybe every three times I sit down to use my macbook) with no error messages, fully charged with the AC adaptor plugged in. After it shuts down and I try to turn it on, it will stay on from anywhere from 10 seconds to less than one second before turning itself back off. Is this failure to power back up a different issue from the random shutdowns? They seem to correspond, because I have never had trouble powering up when properly shutdown and dormant.
I found a workaround to get booted when it is failing to restart by simply holding the power button for 5-10 seconds until the macbook beeps loudly, then I let go of the power button and it powers up ok, and I don’t see the random shutdown issue for a while.
I have not yet applied the firmware update; will this fix both of my issues? I'm worried that if the random shutdowns stop, that there might still be a hardware issue (not powering up) on my macbook that won't surface until I am out of warranty.
I also heard that a friend of a friend had this same problem and was given a replacement macbook, which makes me think I have a more severe problem.
Any ideas?
  Mac OS X (10.4.7)   macbook ultimate

Well... the issue is they may not have been seated correctly to start with... not so much that they would have worked loose. Actually, if you've ever tried to put RAM into a MacBook, you'll see that they're certainly not loose. Your main problem certainly seems like the random shutdown issue. Your start up issue is related to the same thing. Your MacBook gets a funky signal from a temperature sensor and shuts down. It doesn't want to come back on right away because it thinks the temperature issue has not been resolved. When you hold the power button in and get the beep, you are locking your MacBook at a slower speed which has seemed to work for some people temporarily. The firmware update should resolve your problem.
NOTE: If you know your machine will run for a few minutes under certain circumstances, make sure it's under those circumstances that you update the firmware. You don't want to have a random shutdown during a firmware update.

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