Range Extender 802.11g vs. 802.11n

Hi all,
I have a new Airport Extreme base station and use an old Airport Express as a range extender. The problem is it's pretty weak and barely gets signal to the room I need it in.
Does the new "n" version of Airport Express have more range, that is, if I replace the old one with a new "n" version in the same place, will I have stronger signal?
Thanks!

I ordered the new "n" A Exp, and the short answer is that it does not offer any additional range as an extender than the g version does. So, caveat emptor. The signal and performance was exactly the same with either model.
One item to note that Apple does not make very obvious is that the set up process is much different with an "n" network than a "g" network. In short, with an "n" network there is no need to go through all of the WDS stuff, just click the box that says "allow network to be extended" on the main station.
I was able to make use of the new A Exp to create a second wireless network plugged into ethernet in a different part of the house. This at least gives me full coverage by selecting whichever network has stronger signal in which room I'm in.

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