Range of Airport Extreme between two buildings

We will soon have a studio in our barn 130 feet from the house wired with cable internet. Will Airport Extreme send the signal that far and work well—no trees, clear line of sight, with basic barn construction and insulation in the studio/apartment walls between base and eventual second computer.

In theory it should work. But since it really depends on the RF environment at your location, the only way you will know for sure is to try it.

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Best way to get internet between two buildings???

Hello all! I have some questions about a possible setup I am thinking of running.
I have building that has internet coming into it. 15yds away, I have another building (which is brick) that has no internet options. I was thinking about buying two Airport Extreme's, making one the base and using the other one in the other building the access point for WDS. Then buy a couple of the Airport Expresses to push the signal throughout that building.
Thoughts on this? Is there a better way to get internet between two buildings (without running cables) and then push it through out that building?
I am open to any an all suggestions.
Thanks,
Grant

Welcome to the discussions!
Ethernet is always the best choice for signal strength and reliability. If you do not want to run ethernet cable to the second building, your options are down to ethernet powerline adapters and wireless.
The ethernet powerline adapters work by transmitting the ethernet signal over the AC power line. The difficulty here may be that the other building is on a different electrical circuit, so it may or may not work depending on how the electrical wiring is configured. An electrician could run tests to see if this would work.
The least reliable option is wireless. To have the best chance of working well, the "sending" and "receiving" routers need to be able to "see" each other through a window or other opening. Be sure to test with a laptop in the second location to see if you will have a strong enough signal to work with before you go this route.

Extending the range of Airport Extreme in house with walls

Any sugggestions on the best way to extend the range of Airport Extreme? The base unit is located in an office at one end of a house. I would like to be able to connect from rooms at the other end of the house, some 70' away. There are three walls betgween the base and the far room.

I have essentially the same problem, except that our router is a Netgear product (NOT my choice, my husband is a PC guy). I get a great connection when my G5 is on the desk, but if I put it under the desk (which is where I really, really want it) I get nothing.
Will an Airport Express do anything for me? Or do I need to get an AirPort Extreme router? If I get an Airport Extreme router and locate it closer to my computer can I set it up to work with the same cable internet service we have the Netgear connected to? Or do I have to have a totally separate service? My computer is downstairs, the Netgear is up. Moving it is not an option. Our house is wired for cat 5 throughout. (No idea if this matters, I'm clueless on this stuff). Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Help: Using Airport Express to extend the range of Airport Extreme

I am trying to use the Airport Express to extend the range of the network created by my Airport Extreme. The Express works in terms of streaming music from iTunes on the PC connected to th Extreme.
However, I am trying to run a short Cat-5 cable out of the Express to a nearby PC in order to have access to the internet. If the Express is recognized by the Extreme and can play music through connected stereo cables, why can I get an internet connection through the LAN port..??
Here's a real basic representation of my connections...
Cable Modem >>-- Cat5 -->> Airport Extreme >>-- Wireless -->> Airport Express >>-- Cat5 -->>PC#2

To wirelessly extend the range between two AirPorts, you need to configure them in a Wireless Distribution System (WDS).
To facilitate the WDS set up, try the following:
o Perform a "hard" reset on the AirPort Extreme Base Stations & a "factory default" reset on the AirPort Express Base Stations (AX) before setting up the WDS.
o Place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete.
o To avoid having to "switch" wireless networks during the WDS setup, attach each of the remote/relay base station, via an Ethernet cable, to the main base station. Of course, this would be dependent on the AirPort types used for the main/relays/remotes.
o Be sure to jot down the MAC addresses for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS as these will be required during the setup.
o When enabling wireless encryption, configure the relay/remote base stations first and the main base station last.

How to set-up new Airport Express to extend range of Airport Extreme

Purchased a new Airport Express to use it as a range extender on existing home network with an operating Airport Extreme base station. While I've read instructions, I'm unclear whether the Express needs to be connected by ethernet cable for its initial setup, or can I simply plug it and initialize it wirelessly onto the same household network? (I've tried the latter but without success).

to edex67 and Bob Timmons:
My objective is to extend the wireless range of the Airport Extreme base station wirelessly - so I do appreciate that the Airport Express would needsto be located haflway between the base station and the "dead zone" area.
The suggestion of using a Powerline ethernet connection to the Airport Express has merit (especially as I have one available).
I continue to use OSX 10.6.8 - does this affect my set-up in any way?
My problem had been - and remains - how to configure the Airport Express in range extend mode - I did click these boxes on both the Extreme base station and the Express, however the Express still has flashing amber lights and error codes - one indicating no internet availability on the Airport Express.

How to extend wifi range using Airport Extreme and Airport Express connected via ethernet cable

Hello,
I'm having an Airport Extreme fifth generation in my living room. I bought yesterday an Airport Express to extend the range of my WIFI in the house and I put in in my bed room. The two devices are connected together via an ethernet cable, from airport extreme (lan 1 port) to airport express to (wan port). Now from the airport utility what configuration I have to set to the airport express in order to extend my wifi range? Inside the wireless tab what i have to select in the network mode?
1. Create a wireless network (use same same wireless network name and pass work as the airport extreme)
2. Join a wireless network
3 Extend a wireless network ?
Thank you

You are way overthinking this. The utility will literally configure everything for you automatically. All that you need to do is name the device and click Next during the setup.
You can use your Mac using Mountain Lion or an iPhone or iPad.
Post back if you need the steps.

Airport Extreme with Two Airport Express Stations

Alright... It's been a while since I turned to the community for help, but here I go.
I've got an Airport Extreme Base Station (Dual Band) purchased a little over 1 year ago. I also have two Airport Express Base Stations (Let's call them AX 1 and AX 2 for short) purchased in the last 6 months. I am trying to configure everything as follows. Wireless signal originates from AEBS in one corner of the house, gets picked up by AX 1 downstairs, and then broadcast to AX 2 upstairs which in turn broadcasts the network to our computers upstairs. Instead what is happening is that it goes AEBS > AX 1 and then AX 2 acts as a client only to AX 1 and will not extend the signal any further. I've been trying to use the default "Extend a network" option, avoiding the WDS setup because i've read that WDS will drop everything to 802.11g instead of 802.11n. Is this true?
Signal in the house is fairly poor and I can't move the AEBS from where it is due to wiring constraints with the cable modem.
Any help would be appreaciated! I'm just trying to get decent 802.11n coverage throughout all the house :/

Christopher Sant wrote:
I've got an Airport Extreme Base Station (Dual Band) purchased a little over 1 year ago. I also have two Airport Express Base Stations (Let's call them AX 1 and AX 2 for short) purchased in the last 6 months. I am trying to configure everything as follows. Wireless signal originates from AEBS in one corner of the house, gets picked up by AX 1 downstairs, and then broadcast to AX 2 upstairs which in turn broadcasts the network to our computers upstairs. Instead what is happening is that it goes AEBS > AX 1 and then AX 2 acts as a client only to AX 1 and will not extend the signal any further.
I believe that "extending" a network can only use one "hop", so that you can't have AX 2 extend the network from AX 1. WDS would allow you to have one AX as a "relay" and the other as a "remote", but as you mention, there's a performance penalty for that.
Signal in the house is fairly poor and I can't move the AEBS from where it is due to wiring constraints with the cable modem.
That may actually be your best option. Consider using PowerLine devices to "extend" the Ethernet connection between your broadband modem and your AEBS:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/power-network.htm
Then put the AEBS near the center of your house and if needed, configure each AX to extend the network from the AEBS.

Extend range with Airport Extreme and D-Link DI-614?

Can I use an Airport Extreme and a D-Link DI-614 wireless router to extend the range of my network? If so, which router should be the main base station, and which should be the relay station?

...does anyone know the cheapest way to extend a wireless network?
Ethernet cable. Run an Ethernet cable between the 2 devices.

Airport Extreme creates two sets of ip addresses

After setting up an Airport Extreme Base Station I noted that some of my computers (some PCs & MBA, some wired and some wireless)have been assigned one set of addresses, ,(10.10.1.xxx) and another group of devices, all wired (computer, directv receiver, blueray, TV and AV receiver) have been assigned another group of IP addresses (192.168.0.xxx). Consequently the two groups cannot talk to each other. I cannot figure out how to bring them all into one group of IP addresses, or what causes this issue. Any advice?
My setup is Cox Cable internet going into Motorola cable modem connected to Airport Extreme Base Station.

Welcome to the discussion area, Dee2010!
If you have a dual band AirPort Extreme, normally the "main" network devices all receive addresses in the 10.0.1.x range for both ethernet and wired connections and clients on the "guest" network receive 172.16.42.x addresses via wireless only.
It is possible to assign one of three addresses ranges to either the "main" or "guest" network as follows:
10.0.x.x
192.168.x.x
172.16.42.x
Do you know if the DHCP "defaults" have been changed?
Clients on the "guest" network can connect by wireless only, not ethernet. And, guests cannot "see" any of the devices on the "private" network. This is normal for a guest networking feature as you usually only want to provide guests with an internet connection, but not allow them access to your other computers or drives on the network.
It might be a good idea to "hard reset" the AirPort Extreme back to defaults and reconfigure the device.
Is your cable modem a simple device with only one ethernet port, or is this a "gateway" which is a combination modem/router? If you have two separate routers on the network both acting as DHCP servers, that might explain the behavior that you see. If you have a "gateway", you would want to configure the AirPort Extreme in "bridge mode" so that all devices would be on the same network.
Post back on your findings.
Message was edited by: Bob Timmons

HT4260 what is the actual range of airport extreme in meters ? can it cover my whole home if it is in the range of 50 meters of radius ?

What is the actual range of the Airport Extreme in Metres? Can it Cover up to 50m in Radius?

What is the actual range of the Airport Extreme in Metres? Can it Cover up to 50m in Radius?
50m would be approximately the range.....if there were no walls or obstructions in the path the wireless signal must travel.
Since we know nothing about how many walls, ceilings or other obstructions there might be the path that the wireless signal would take in your home, or the construction type of those obstructions, we cannot even make a guess about whether the AirPort Extreme might provide a signal to cover your home.

What is the expected range of Airport Extreme on 5 GHz band?

I just installed a AE 5 gen. I live in a wood frame home and I having difficulty receiving adequate signal levels (5 GHz) on the second floor. Total distance 40 feet and two frame walls (one wall and one ceiling). I am replacing a LinkSys E2500 that presented a greater signal level with the same router Powerbook placement. Any suggestions?

The bottom line here is that the issue is one of obstructions, not distance. A ceiling is probably about equal to 3 normal walls in terms of absorbsion, so anywhere from 60-80% of the signal will be lost. If you need more wireless coverage upstairs, then it is likely that another AirPort Extreme will be needed in that location.
Since the signal is already quite weak upstairs, trying to "extend" the signal by using wireless only will only result in a weak signal being extended a bit further. No real improvement at all.
You will likely need to plan to connect the second AirPort Extreme using an Ethernet connection to maintain the bandwidth on the network.
The best solution by far is to run an Ethernet cable to the second AirPort Extreme. If that is not possible, the next best choice would be to use a pair of Ethernet power line adapters to send the signal over the existing power lines in your home.
This is an "iffy" type of thing, because it is one of those types of things where you will not know if it will work until you try it in your home. If you decide to try this route, make sure that you have a clear understanding of the store's return policy in case things do not work as hoped.

What's the range of airport extreme can the signal reach my basement my house is about 2500 sq ft

Whats the range on the airport extreme is the signal strong enough to reach the basement of a 2500 sq ft home. Thx

The maximum free-space range is 150 feet; slightly more in the 5 GHz band. However, walls, floors, other electronic devices, microwave ovens, etc. will attenuate the signal reducing the range for actual use.
I live in a 2300 SF townhome and wireless works fine from an AEBS on the second floor. I use an Airport Express on the first floor in Extend mode that is configured for my Slingplayer. Apple TV2 does not seem to have any problems. It's also on the bottom floor.
This is a six year old home so the walls are not made of plaster. Plaster on metal lath can prevent AEBS signals from being detected outside of the room where it's located.

Airport Express to Extend Range of Airport Extreme 802.11 ac???

Hi:
We just installed a new Airport Extreme 802.11 ac. I would like to extend range within the house with our older Airport Express. I plug in the Airport Express (model A1264) 1 m away from the Extreme, but the light just blinks yellow on the Express. When one turns to Airport Utility, the box in the top left (Other Wi-Fi Devices) shows no other discovered options. Is this 802.11 n Express not compatible with my new 802.11 ac extreme, or am I doing something stupid/wrong?
Thanks!

Tried soft and hard reboots on the Express. I now have a slowly flashing yellow light.
But, Airport Utility under the tab "Other Wi-Fi Devices" still lists nothing.
Airport Utility in the main window has a globe with a green dot next to the word "Internet" under it.
There is a vertical line under the globe going to an icon of my brand new Airport Extreme that has a green dot under it and the name of the Airport Extreme.
My iMac is connected to the internet via an ethernet cable (Wi-Fi is off).
This is the same configuration I had with my old Base Station, but for some reason the Airport Express doesn't show up in Airport Utility with my new Airport Extreme as the base station and I have no idea how to use Airport Express as a range extender.
Again, thank you for your advice and help.

Extending Range of Airport Extreme via LAN connection to Airport Express

I am an expat living overseas. I live in a 100 concrete walled house and thus when trying to set up a wireless network I have very limited range. Using Airport Extreme is not a problem downstairs...but to extend the wireless connection upstairs had been a challenge. What I've attempted to do is use the LAN connection on the back of the Airport Express Base Station and run the line upstairs along the side of the house into a room upstairs. I then have connected the ethernet line to an airport express in this room. My computers upstairs recognize the Airport Express and are connected to it...but I can't get an internet connection to those computers. Additionally, the Airport Extreme Base Station does not recognize the Airport Express as part of the network (wireless or LAN). Any suggestions?

I would bring the Expresses to the room where you have your Extreme and factory reset the Expresses so that they are in the original condition when they came out of the box - they will reflect their Apple IDs.
I would then open the Airport Utility (I am assuming you have the new Extreme, not the old one). Scan for the Expresses and then join them to the network.
If they work in the room where your Extreme is located then they are configured appropriately. They I would try moving them back to the room where you want to extend your network. If they then do not work you will know it is not the Express but the amount of concrete and metal in your building.

Extending the range of Airport Extreme 802.11n

I have 2 Airport Extremes 802.11n. One of the is connected to a DSL modem and it works fine. I have been trying to use the other one to extend the network, but have not been successful.
I used the exact steps in the manual (Designing Airport Network) published by Apple. The steps I used (several times) were under "Extending the Range of an 802.11n Network".
Whenever I compete the steps and update the base station, the one that I want to use as the extension (not connected to the internet) disappears from the Airport Utility Application and the base station blinks the orange light. I did reset the base station and tried the guide several times but no success.
I am doing something wrong or this manual is not complete. Any help from you guys will be most appreciated.
Thanks!

I have the same problem. I didn't have this issue with the 802.11g version. Are you using the base station in "bridge" mode? Because when I used the "n" basestation in DHCP/NAT mode, it worked fine. Unfortunately, I needed to change to bridge mode for reliability issues with my service provider.
Now I have the same issue as you.

Range of Airport Extreme between two buildings

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