Ranking on FreeText Search

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This is my Search string. I am using FREETEXTTABLE(dbo.pur_Item,ItemName,@searchfor) in the query.
DECLARE @searchfor varchar(500)
Set @searchfor = '4''0X6''8" 1 3/8" Composite Wood'
These are the results.   My question is why line 15 is ranked as 84. I would expect it to have a rank of 252 or at least
a higher ranking than line 10.

The exact algorithm for FREETEXTTABLE ranking (as of SQL Server 2008 R2) can be found here. (I do not currently find a 2012 explanation of the algorithm, but I have no reason to believe it has changed.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms142524(v=sql.105).aspx
Interesting things to consider:
ItemID 8903 is longer than the other lines showing. It looks long enough to be in the next larger ranking bucket which might affect rank.
If the indexes are not merged, then it can affect the ranking of the row.
The LANGUAGE of your full text search will affect how some words are broken
Also FREETEXTABLE is a much looser search than CONTAINSTABLE, as you can see by the description and algorithms.
So, I cannot analyze this for you exactly, but there are factors that you can see from the documentation.
Experiments:
Make a copy of ItemID 8903 and trim the length of the data to see if that changes the RANK.
Try recasting your FULLTEXTTABLE query as a CONTAINSTABLE query and see how that changes the results.
RLF

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