RAW and JPEG as one thumbnail ?

Hi there,
is it possible to view RAW+JPEG as one thumbnail in Bridge like in Lightroom? I shoot RAW and JPEG and so i see the same picture 2 times. One RAW Version and one JPEG.
I want to see them both as one thumbnail. They should be grouped together. So if i delete it the RAW and the JPEG version gets deleted.
please help!
regards,
Mari

You still don't understand what i mean and you seem to have no idea what i'm talking about. But it's okay..
Maybe you should read a little more about how LR works before you write about things you clearly don't know anything about.
i explain it to you one last time: I have RAW and JPEG Files. I'm looking only at the RAW Files when i sort out my photos and i don't want to delete the JPEGs manually. So i want Bridge to stack JPG+RAW together so they both get deleted when i delete the image. it's not that hard to understand actually
For those who understood what my problem was:
I found a script for LR that does exactly what i was looking for in Bridge: -> RAW + JPG Stack
So my problem is solved and everythings works fine

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