Raw(DNG) + JPG strangeness

Okay I'm having a bit of a problem with Aperture and I'm not really understanding what its doing.
I have my camera (Leica M8) set to RAW+JPG mode. I do this because I like the B+W that my camera produces but I also like to have the RAW file in case I feel like producing a color image. Best of both worlds and all is happy in Camera land.
When I first started using Aperture, after an import, I would see both the B+W jpg and the raw file in the browser. This worked especially well because I could then just choose which one to work on. Making adjustments on either of the files and then exporting them was seamless.
Somewhere along the line this stopped happening. I don't remember changing any settings, but now after an import all I see is the raw file. I have my images set to store in a file directory structure instead of the Aperture database, and when I go check those folders out, the jpg is indeed there, so technically its getting imported, but there's just no way for me to see it in Aperture.
Any ideas?
* I have tried switching on & off the "use Camera's jpg preview for raw files setting and nothing changed.
* I've made sure that stacks are set to expand, so its not just the images being stacked.

I'm just taking a wild stab at this. Do you have the import option of "Do not import duplicates" turned off?

Similar Messages

  • Lost metadata in file after attempt to Save RAW As JPG in PS CS3

    Someone in other place in this Forum advised me that this will be probably more appropriate place to ask these questions, so I will give it a go. Below is a copy of my post on PS Windows thread (well, two posts really edited into one):
    Hi,
    I have just found out that after I open RAW pictures from my Canon 5D (but same happens with pictures from Canon 10D) in PS and than try to save them as JPGs, I loose majority of my metadata from the files (after right click on filename in. I can still Windows Explorer and clicking Properties or simply adding additional columns in Win XP Windows Explorer detailed view.
    So same picture, without any editing at all, just opened as RAW file (which it is a CR2 or CRW file in Canons), and then saved as JPG, suddenly does not show the date of picture taken, focal length or exposure time are all gone. Does not matter if I try Properties in Win Explorer or say Properties in MS Office Picture Manager.
    Was trying to look for any setting in PS that would set the ability to save or abandon saving of this type of information in JPG file but could not find anything of this kind.
    What is interesting I went back to my pictures I have saved from RAW to JPG using same PS years ago, and I this was not a problem. Everything was saving OK.
    So in summary:
    1. This would not be a problem related to camera (it is unlikely that same problem would occur on two different models at the same time - even though both are Canons)
    2. It must be a way to force the Photoshop to do that, I f I was able to do it successfully, almost without knowing, before.
    Therefore, I would think that either:
    1. There is some set of defaults somewhere in PS that I have accidently turned off causing my PS not to save this metadata properly or in full, or
    2. That it came as some kind of bug with some of the updates to PS CS3 that I was getting over last year from Adobe.
    Has any one else encountered similar problem? If yes, what did you do to resolve this issue?
    I will be very grateful for any help, as I am not a frequent user of Adobe Photoshop and may just not be very familiar with the part that regulates that type of issues.
    And I do not use the Save for Web option.
    I just used (in PS CS3 running on Win XP Professional with SP3) the Save As from File menu.
    What is also strange is that if I use File - Open command and get the first window with Open dialog box, where you have some basic options for opening/converting RAW format pictures (this window does not come up when I open JPG files) and I use existing there button to Save (which does not actually allow to do any editing of the picture before such way of saving) all Camera Properties, or that metadata, is actually saved into the newly created JPG quite correctly.
    However if I use button Open in that conversion dialog box, and than save already opened RAW file as JPG, the majority of that data is gone (date picture taken, exposure time, aperture, focal length, exposure compensation steps etc).
    I can see that RAW file has all this in the sections called EXIF and XMP (under File - File Information) but Save As does not add this info in the JPG files for some reason.

    No, not really, because I ma not sure what it is for.
    I just used (in PS CS3 running on Win XP Proffessional) the Save As from File menu.
    What is also strange is that if I use Open command and get the first window with Open dialog box, where you have some basic options for opening/converting RAW format pictures (this window does not come up when I open JPG files) and I use existing there option to Save (which does not actually allow to do any editing of the picture before such way of saving) the all Camera Properties, or that metadata is actually saved into the newly created JPG.However if i use button Open in that conversion dialog box, and than save as JPG, the majority of that dtata is gone (date picture taken, exposure time, aperture, focal lenght, exposure compensation steps etc).
    I can see that RAW file has all this in the sections called EXIF and XMP (under File - File Information) but Save As does not add this info in the JPG files for some reason.

  • Bridge cs4 can not open raw and jpg directly by itself

    i never did it! i want to open raw and jpg files by camera raw directly with open photoshop. i have made the choose to open by double click in the preference but still can not do.
    my brother's computer can open both of them and we are similar xp system.
    and i have checked and reinstalled many times and still failed.

    A bit of magic (if I'd remember):
    1. open PS, from here File > Browse in Bridge
    2. open any RAW/DNG - it goes to PS
    3. switch to Bridge window (PS still open)
    4. R-click, select "open in Camera RAW"
    5. Close all
    Now opening in Bridge should work :)
    Chris

  • Images as RAW and jpgs - how to separate?

    I shoot both RAW and jpg, that way I have the RAW for detailed editing, and the jpg for quick edits to post on web, as required, or to send a quick copy to friends.  I will probably stop this (shooting both) when I get used to editing RAW, but that is part of my evolution and growth in developing my skills in my digital darkroom.
    When I first started with LR, I was using the Beta 2 version and simply imported my PS Elements 8 Catalog and that worked okay, because both versions of the image were imported so that I could see both of them and then pick the image I wanted for further editing.  I have now upgraded to the new, full version of LR3 and have just downloaded my first set of images from a weekend of shooting - went looking for bluebirds and only found one nesting box with an active pair in it.  I will go back for more in a day or so - more images that is.  It is strange how the population of nesting bluebirds in my part of the Western Prairies has declined significantly in the past five years, but that is a whole, different story,  Anyway to proceed...I downloaded the images from this afternoon's shoot and found that the RAW image (Canon - CR2) and the jpeg show as one image with a title that says IMG_xxxxx.CR2+jpg.  I would like to be able to break the two different images out, or at least get at each one separately for editing purposes.  For the life of me, I cannot figure this one out.  I am still waiting for Kelby's LR3 book that I pre-ordered...maybe this week.  Not sure if that will tell me how to do this, assuming I can.  If I can't do this, then I will have to import into Elements 8 and then re-import that file into LR3 - a process I would rather not have to do.
    Any insight that anyone can provide on how to do this (I assume it can be done) will be greatly appreciated.  Maybe it is something as simple as a "switch" on an import preset, or setting up a "custom" import preset (if there is such a thing). Thanks in advance.
    Regards,
    WesternGuy

    Susan, thanks for the insight.  I think I will follow your lead and delete the images from my catalog and re-import them.  Hopefully I can find the options that you have noted.  It would be nice, though, if there was a way to break them apart after loading, but at least I don't have too many to redo.
    Regards,
    WesternGuy

  • Question about RAW to JPG file sizes

    Hello all, I have a question/concern in reference to file size changes when converting from RAW to JPG formats in PSE6. I've recently purchased a CANON 50D, and have started shooting in RAW format (actually RAW2+JPG). I have the CAMERA RAW 5.2 plugin and my workflow process is something akin to this:
    1. Separate all RAW and JPG images into their respective folders.
    2. Open the RAW folder in BRIDGE, and then open up a CR2 file. CR2 file is approx 15MB at this point, as reported in Finder.
    3. Perform various corrections in ACR52 to the file, then do as SAVE AS to a DNG file.
    4. Next step is to OPEN IMAGE, bringing it up in PSE6.
    5. Make any necessary corrections to the picture, and then do a SAVE AS to a new file name and folder, selecting JPG format.
    6. Selection MAX QUALITY from subsequent dialogue box, and SAVE.
    When the file is saved, its now down to a mere 2.1 or 2.2MB, and when viewing its properties (vs. the same file that came from camera in JPG format), its down from a 44x66" format, to somewhere around 4x6" and 240dpi.
    I've been doing some reading on this over the weekend, but cant explain away the severe loss in file size, and whether this is right, or if I'm doing something wrong in the process.
    Appreciate any advice or suggestions to help improve my work processes, and ultimately the final photos!

    Regarding your file size questions, have a look at this thread and see if it answers some of your questions:
    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/741532/0
    > When the file is saved, its now down to a mere 2.1 or 2.2MB, and when viewing its properties (vs. the same file that came from camera in JPG format), its down from a 44x66" format, to somewhere around 4x6" and 240dpi.
    Dimensions and resolution are related and multiple combinations can be produced from the same number of pixels. For example, your 50D at maximum image size produces 4,752 by 3,168 pixels. This full-size image could be printed at:
    - 19.8 x 13.2 inches at 240 PPI
    - 47.52 x 31.68 inches at 100 PPI
    - 7.92 x 5.28 inches at 600 PPI
    As you can maybe see, talking about dimensions and resolution doesn't make much sense until you are ready to consider printing. Note also that I used "PPI" or Pixels Per Inch since this is the slightly more correct terminology. DPI or "Dots Per Inch" is usually a reference to how a printer lays down the ink drops onto the paper. Many printers actually put more "dots" on the paper than there are pixels. Many people and companies use DPI when they mean PPI.
    Now in your case you are apparently starting with an SRAW2 raw file. SRAW2 files from the 50D have a reduced number of pixels and are 2,276 pixels wide by 1,584 pixels high. At 240 PPI this would allow you to print the image at 9.9 by 6.6 inches. If you are ending up with something smaller than that, it means you have either re-sampled the image (changed the image so the same image is displayed with fewer pixels) or you have cropped the image.
    Hope that helps.

  • Ordering Prints from LR Raw/DNG

    I've got a boatload of raw/dng photos I need to print. What's a good workflow for ordering prints from an online service?
    Say something like Shutterfly? Looks like there's a plugin for LR. I'd like to avoid mass converting to Jpeg/srgb... is there any service that takes a raw/proPhoto rgb? Or is that overkill?

    JPG highest quality, full resolution with sRGB should be good enough for a place like Shutterfly, unless they gprovide formats for special paper, then you can convert to those, but be sure you specify they have a custom profile and no auto-adjustments are to be performed, otherwise things won’t look right since they’re likely to assume sRGB for the profile.
    Raw cannot have ProPhotoRGB associated with it since it is raw sensor data not RGB data.  And a raw file would be interpreted by the printing company using whatever software and settings they wanted, completely ignoring whatever you’d done in Lightroom.
    What gives you the idea that you need to send raw photos, or even ProPhotoRGB photos?  Is the prints going to be in glowing or fluorescent ink.  I can’t imagine any other reason to use ProPhotoRGB as an image profile desitined for printed output since paper usually has a lower gamut than your monitor, even.   You use ProPhotoRGB with 16-bit TIFs for intermedia or archival perposes.  You wouldn’t want to use ProPhotoRGB with an 8-bit format or as a final output format for printed or display purposes since the gamut of the paper or display would be much smaller than ProPhotoRGB.  Normally you use ProPhotoRGB as an intermediate format for images that will be adjusted further.

  • ACR: .dng .jpg   How to prevent highlights from blowing out yet again?

    How can a .dng in ACR be "Saved As" a .jpg without the .jpg process blowing out the highlights all over again?
    The affected images have to be tweaked yet again in ACR.

    Ed Gerson wrote:
    All  together now: Sigh.
    I'm sighing, but not because CS4 is missing any functionality.
    The point behind the little suggested workflow I listed above was that you do your color balancing, exposure, cropping, etc. in the Camera Raw tool and it stores metadata associated with each raw DNG file.  Then you open that file through Camera Raw and use it for publication via whatever process you want.
    Save images directly as JPEG from Camera Raw (if the sizes it offers are good for you).
    Save images through the Image Processor, which automates some simple processing tasks for you (e.g., resizing).
    Open individual images into Photoshop to post-process them (e.g., retouching a particular portrait or something).
    The key here is that Camera Raw provides the same developing settings however you (re)open the raw file for each subsequent use.
    If in light of all this you still DO want to save an intermediate file for later use, may I suggest .PSD format as that is a lossless format. Consider also saving in 16 bits/channel and ProPhoto RGB color space.
    Lightroom is a possible alternative, as it's highly optimized for flushing a large number of images through a workflow pipeline, though I don't need/use it because my digital darkroom activity is more along the lines of individual edits rather than production work.
    -Noel

  • Nokia 1020: any RAW to JPG converters which preser...

    Rawer does an excellent job, with variable quality Jpeg options so you can extract a high quality jpeg, but it discards the EXIF data which is really annoying.
    There is a PC based route I found which goes to a TIF and then Jpeg... lengthy.
    There are various PC progs which go DNG to Jpeg but the ones that support Microsoft's version of DNG all cost about $50.

    Hi Omke,
    Thank you for sharing your workflow--very generous and quite interesting.
    Yesterday, I barged into an Adobe Forums thread similar to mine and I discovered the reason for the file size difference, it's the 10 setting you get when you select Maximum Quality from the Bridge Save Image dialogue box. Bridge, like PS, actually goes to a 12 quality setting, but you have to type in the 12 manually (a curious requirement) rather than selecting the Max Quality option, which always goes to 10. Once I manually typed in 12, my Bridge-converted (RAW to .jpg) files became precisely the same size as when I convert them using PS.
    Here's a link to the thread:
    charles badland, "raw to jpeg,jpeg file too small" #36, 30 Sep 2008 1:47 pm
    Thanks again for your help and suggestions,
    --FTP

  • I cannot get .arw or jpeg files from my Sony A6000 to be taken into my Lightroom 4.4 via the normal "synchronise" process.  I have updated my Pc to Adobe RAW/DNG 8.4 with no improvement.  Can you help please?

    I cannot get .arw or jpeg files from my Sony A6000 to be taken into my Lightroom 4.4 via the normal "synchronise" process.  I have updated my Pc to Adobe RAW/DNG 8.4 with no improvement.  Can you help please?

    With regards to your .arw files:
    You need to either purchase and install Lightroom 5.4 -- OR -- download and install and use the FREE Adobe DNG Converter version 8.4, did you actually launch and use the DNG Converter?
    There should be no problem importing JPG files into Lightroom from your camera, what happens when you try? Is there an error message?

  • ARW to DNG & JPG: organizer versions/stacks?

    I shot a bunch of photos raw only semi-inadvertantly. (Been looking for an excuse to figure out a raw workflow, guess I found it.)
    So I've figured out how to use PSE Organizer 12/PSE 12 to batch the ARW to DNG then JPG or straight to JPG. Easy enough. (Though someow the first time through I ended up wioth two DNGs for each one. Still not sure exactly how I did that...)
    But that path seems to be complely divorced from the Organizer. I'd like the ancilary products (DNG/JPG) to be saved as Version Sets or Stacks with the original raw files. No Joy. I tagged the ARW and did the whole face recognition thing with the raw files. I'd like that metadata to somehow pass forward to the DNG/JPG. No Joy.
    Am I missing something? Just not supposed to batch this? (Given number of files, sigh.) Not supposed to tag anything at the raw stage? Just not suppsed to use Organizer? Expected to separately import the ancialary products into Organizer and stack them myself?

    Dick W wrote:
    I shot a bunch of photos raw only semi-inadvertantly. (Been looking for an excuse to figure out a raw workflow, guess I found it.)
    So I've figured out how to use PSE Organizer 12/PSE 12 to batch the ARW to DNG then JPG or straight to JPG. Easy enough. (Though someow the first time through I ended up wioth two DNGs for each one. Still not sure exactly how I did that...)
    Can you detail your steps to batch the ARW raw files ? The usual way in the organizer is the 'export' function, and in the editor it's the 'process multiple files' option in the file menu.
    But that path seems to be complely divorced from the Organizer. I'd like the ancilary products (DNG/JPG) to be saved as Version Sets or Stacks with the original raw files. No Joy. I tagged the ARW and did the whole face recognition thing with the raw files. I'd like that metadata to somehow pass forward to the DNG/JPG. No Joy.
    Am I missing something? Just not supposed to batch this? (Given number of files, sigh.) Not supposed to tag anything at the raw stage? Just not suppsed to use Organizer? Expected to separately import the ancialary products into Organizer and stack them myself?
    One important thing about saving to DNG. There is no way to save in version sets with the original raw files. Why do you want to save as DNG ? I don't see a way to batch convert raw files to DNG from the Organizer. You can open several raw files in the ACR dialog of the editor and use the 'save' button to save all selected raw files to DNG. If you save to a 'watched' folder, you'll be prompted to add those DNGs to the catalog. Once in the organizer, you could stack them manually with the originals.
    To batch convert raw files to DNG, I would use the free Adobe DNGconverter software; it's a standalone program which runs outside of Elements.

  • Multiple Black and white conversion from raw or jpgs

    Hi All
    Any help would be appreciated.
    I have 300 wedding images taken on raw and jpg. I now want to convert them all to black and white. Any way I can do this without doing it one at a time (whether using raw or jpg files)?
    Hope someone has the answer or else I need to fork out £500 for CS4!!
    Clive

    Hi
    Thanks for reply. I am able to open and convert from raw ok, what I don’t know if I can do is process multiple files that have been changed, i.e. to black and white?
    I don’t think PE8 will actually do this.
    Clive Wilkinson
    Assessment Coordinator
    Kirklees Warm Zone
    Mob: 07885 203466
    The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Yorkshire Energy Services CIC or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [email protected]
    Yorkshire Energy Services CIC, company number 3995784. Company is registered in England and Wales and has its registered office at: St Georges Quarter,
    Unit 9, New North Parade, Huddersfield, HD1 5JP, United Kingdom

  • RAW DNG sequence / Edit Original with ACR within Premier

    I need to speak to a Adobe Premier expert. I have a RAW DNG sequence shot on my Canon 5d Mark 3 via Magic Lantern imported into my premier project now. I want to edit the DNG's image settings with ACR (adobe camera raw). So i right click on my DNG sequence / clip and go to Edit - Original . ACR pops up and i make my image modifications. I click ok but the DNG sequence doesnt change, its stays the same.
    Now i can do all this without trouble within After Effects, but it just adds another step to my workflow. When it should be working within Premier. Im still waiting to see if ACR will ever work directly within Premier.

    Maybe whoever answers your question can give me some insight. I imported my DNG sequences to After Effects, because Premier wouldn't import the DNG sequences,  and created a new comp for each of the shots I have. Later in Premier I imported all those AE comps. Now where would be the correct place to color correct and grade this? Straight in Premier? Or will I be loosing the flexibility of the DNGs? Should I do it instead in the AE comps? Or maybe it doesn't matter? Thanks for the help!

  • How do I process raw .dng or .pef from pentax k20d into .tiff 's (or jpegs) in aperture 3?

    hi all my friends!
    how do I process raw .dng or .pef from a pentax k20d into tiffs or jpegs in aperture 3? (i have the trial only but will buy a3 if i actually can learn how to use it in 30 days...which i've failed so far)... the raw files are taking up too much space on my HDD. i understand how to change the colors, sharpness etc of the raw files. but how do i actually turn raw files into a tiff or jpeg to just keep in the library in aperture? i have no intention of keeping the raw's.. I just shoot raw to get better jpeg or tiff results.
    also I would greatly appreciate some tips how to do this in batches fast and easy. I have yet to yield images so good i will actually want to spend time perfecting them. for now i just want an easy way to turn raw files into tiffs or jpegs with some standard or completely auto mode. i can do it in camera but it is time consuming.
    and you cant convert raw to jpeg or tiff in iphoto, right?
    best regards, Joakim
    p.s. and thank you who will answer this...i can't find the answer anywhere...tried for a whole day... d.s.

    do you know if the raw files are some way made more compact when you shut down aperture? cause i mean, +20MB for a pic is a lot of space on the hard drive vs. 5MB for a jpeg or so...of course keeping your raws would be the optimum if they simply don't take that much more space than a jpeg... how does aperture do it? are the files "zipped" when not in use?
    No, the size of the files doesn't change, Aperture doesn't compress or otherwise alter the masters.
    and in either case, can you put the aperture archive/library somewhere else than on your local HD, like a portable 1 TB HD? mine is only 250 Gb or so and running low...
    This is doable and most people running on laptops use this method in one form or another. The best results are  obtained by keeping the library on the internal HD but storing the masters on an external HD. The masters in this case are referred to as 'referenced' (when the masters are in the actual Aperture library they are referred to as 'managed' )
    By putting the masters on an external disk but keeping the library on the internal you get the best of both worlds, reduced internal disk consumption and better speed accessing the Aperture library. If the library itself was on the external HD, especially if it was USB, you could notice decreased performance.
    There has been much written about this type of setup here in the discussions. Searching the list here should get many articles discussing this topic with lots of very good advice.  Also spend some tim with the User manual, Apple did a good job with it and the fist few sections really explain the various bits of the library and the different ways to set it up.
    As i wrote in my first question, is there an easy way to adjust the values of a 100 raw files automatically?
    To adjust a large number of images try this: Select one image and adjust  it as you like. Then select Metadata->Lift Adjustments, a HUD will open. Now select the other 99 images and in the HUD that opened select Stamp Selected Images, all those 99 images will now have the adjustments you applied to the first image.
    Again this is all covered in the manual.
    Good luck

  • Last wish, preset converting RAW into JPG with more contrast, saturation & sharpening

    A close family member is dying and she has still many RAW files, which of course look slightly lifeless as all RAW files do. She asked me to look for a simple Lightroom preset which will convert her RAWs into Jpgs with more contrast, saturation and sharpening. She has Lightroom 3, but has no experience in making presets and neither do I. She needs the preset to make the RAW files as Jpgs available to her partner & children. No fancy effects; just simple. She cannot work on her computer anymore. Can you help me with a concrete preset or if not can you make one for her?

    This forum is for plugin developers - consider posting in 'Photoshop Lightroom' forum instead (at top of page, New -> Discussion -> Photoshop Lightroom).

  • In case my input RAW/DNG files are already applied white balance , is there a way to cancel the white balance in light room ?

    Hello I am new to lightroom and I am verifying this tool  as a tool for raw converter (for image quality team)
    In case my input RAW/DNG files are already applied white balance gain
    Is there a way to cancel the white balance in light room ?
    Thanks
    Ron

    Make sure that Develop Settings being applied during import is set to "None".

Maybe you are looking for