RAW files linked as smart objects not affected by LR5

My understanding of linking (rather than embedding) a file in the latest Photoshop CC 2014 is that it would allow the linked file to be edited outside of Photoshop and still update when the parent file is opened in Photoshop.
However after placing, as a link, a raw file within Photoshop, (that had been edited in LR 5.7 and retains the last LR appearance), I find that if I reopen it in LR 5.7 and make further edits, it does not appear to affect the linked file in Photoshop. I am not even getting a ' ! ' to indicate something was changed outside of the program that I am in. Are raw files excluded from this feature? Are raw linked files still behaving as though they are 'embedded' and can only be further edited using Camera Raw?

Shootistbond007 wrote:
station_two wrote:
What I'm saying is that Camera Raw cannot see or access a sidecar file inside a Lr catalog.
The Sidecar files are not in the LR catalog. You keep harping on LR doesn't use camera raw, which it does…
No it does not. It utilizes its own internal conversion engine, which is NOT Adobe Camera Raw. It behaves very similarly, but it is NOT Adobe Camera Raw.
Whatever you want to call that "module", it is NOT Adobe Camera Raw, and it's developed by the Lightroom Engineering Team, not by the Adobe Camera Raw Engineering Team.
The various Adobe engineering teams are totally independent of each other, they are not only in different buildings but in different cities and states of the American Union, even in different countries.
The fact that they have little if any communication among them is highlighted by requests occasionally made in these forums by top Adobe engineers to let the other teams know when there are problems in one application that impact our workflow in another one.

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I just bough new CS 5 and find this big error. When i open raw file in Camera Raw and i have opened some jpg in CS5, it always opened as a smart object to this small jpg i have opened before. The same is doing my CS 5 when i drag some file from desktop, it always ended as a smart object in file im currently working with. Normaly it has to open as a new file not as a smart object in this file im already working with.

How are you opening your RAW files? If you are dragging and dropping them onto Photoshop, on top of an already opened file's workspace - all files will be placed as smart objects. If you drag the files to anywhere else in the interface, for instance the grey area on top of the workspace, they should open as usual. If you are opening them via Bridge or by double-clicking them in Explore, they should open as normal.

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This may sound strange, but to avoid the "Smart Object" designation, just stop "placing" the files. Either open them, or copy and paste them into Photoshop.
If you're just opening raster files in Photoshop, they come in as pixels - drag a newly opened raster file onto your target Photoshop file. If you're copy/pasting art from Illustrator, you can choose at the time whether it is a "Smart Object," or "Pixels." Sounds like you want pixels.

Archiving: toss original raw, keep it as smart object in PSD ok?

For archiving purposes, once a .NEF is embedded in a .psd file as a smart object,
I can toss the original .NEF, right? Cuz the entire reference is contained within
the smart object as long as I keep the .psd, right?
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Charles, I've got very bad news for you: Adobe controls TIFF (has for a while) and of course the DNG format too, as it is their own creation to begin with, just as they control PSD and PSB.
From the TIFF File Format entry in Wikipedia:
TIFF (originally standing for Tagged Image File Format) is a file format for storing images, popular among graphic artists, the publishing industry, and both amateur and professional photographers in general. As of 2009, it is under the control of Adobe Systems. Originally created by the company Aldus for use with desktop publishing, the TIFF format is widely supported by image-manipulation applications, by publishing and page layout applications, by scanning, faxing, word processing, optical character recognition and other applications. Adobe Systems, which acquired Aldus, now holds the copyright to the TIFF specification.
Adobe has chosen to publish the specifications for PSD, to make it accessible to other developers.
If they wanted to, they might conceivably pull the plug on TIFF and DNG, the same way you fear they can on PSD. No difference there.
TIFF and DNG are no more "open" formats any more than PSDs are, not more and not less, anyway.

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Do you seriously think we can answer that with zero information from you?
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Operating System/version
Photoshop version number
Amount of RAM installed
Hard drive(s) free capacity
Video card make and model
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Is there a way to link a smart object and his mask?
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R_Kelly wrote:
JJMack might have been referring to the script and video that is on the script page i linked to.
I did not know about the script. I just knew that ACR can only work on Camera RAw Files and convert the camera sensor RAW data into RGB Images and use setting other then ones set into the camera, ACR can also process Jpeg and Tiff files however Camers Sensor RAW data for thes images nolonger exists in the file. So ACR can not work on the images as well as it can when it has access to the Camera RAW data.
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I have Photoshop CC on my pc and Windows 8.
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Why does the Amount slider on the Detail Panel reset to 0 when saving the file as a Smart Object?

Whenever I open a Smart Object PSD file to adjust previous settings in RAW, I have noticed that the Amount slider in the Detail panel has reset to 0. Does this reduce the files sharpening? Is this a normal behavior? Can this be prevented?
I use a Mac running 10.6.8 and Photoshop CS6, version 13.0.5 x 64.

This behavior happens only on Mac desktop computer, not on my Mac laptop running the same CS6.
After I've edited an ACR file (including sharpening in the Detail panel), I change the file into a PSD Smart Object to complete my edit by clicking on "Open Object". I immediately notice this PSD file is not sharp. If I click on the bottom right of the image icon to return to the RAW file, I find the Amount slider in the Detail Panel has changed from the sharpening amount I gave it, to 0.
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Smart Objects not Updating in PS CC

I'm designing elements in Illustrator CC and then copy and paste them into PS and select Create Smart Object. I've also tried saving the AI element and then placeing in PS as well. Then if I double click the smart object to edit it, it will open up in illustrator and I make a change then save and close and when I re-activate PS the change does not apply.
Did PS change something that I'm not aware of? This is a huge pain in the A**. Anyone else having this problem?

I was actually just working in Illlustrator. Selecting the vector object and then select PS and Paste. I'm then asked if I want this to be a smart object. I select yes and it adds the object as a smart object layer. If I double click the layer it opens it in Illustrator, I make a change, save it and close it. Then back to PS and the smart object doesn't update.
I haven't used Place Embedded or Place Linked. I don't understand what those functions do. It's just not how I'm use to working.
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I am using CS3 and I have been having issues with my smart objects from camera raw, I given me an error, "could not edit smart object because disk not available". I have read a similar post, although they where not talking about camera raw smart objects and it was referring to people working over a network which I am not doing. In the past I have found that if I make sure that I open Bridge first, the smart objects will then work. I keep all of my raw images and my working files on the same disk and right now even if I open bridge first, I can not get the smart object to work. Any ideas?

Glad to see some interest. Thanks!
I've had it on both my old system and my new one, the old was a Dual 2.5 G5, the new one is a Dual 2.8 Quad. Both machines are kept fully up to date. The new ones system was created by updating off of the old one.
PS 10.0.1.
It's happened with both files from illustrator and from files created within photoshop - both those created by 'convert to smart object' and 'convert to smart filters'.
I can't remember if I've ever seen the error on either my laptop (macBook) or the mac I use at work (Quad 2.7 G5), if it happens on either I'll mention it here.
Some things about my system that might be part of the cause:
I have four external drives, three firewire, one USB.
I have four internal drives.
I use a wacom.
I'm always connected to a network of at least one other mac (g4 733), two if my laptop is on.
I also get the error where I can't save the file (disk not available?), and have to save out to a different drive, and then restart Photoshop.
I use spaces and sometimes get the flashing cursor error, and have to restart photoshop.
That's all I can think of.
Thanks for the interest.

Smart objects not updating (CS5)

I am using CS5 Photoshop and when I try to save edits on an opened smart object (eg. after editing a ‘placed’ photograph) a ‘Save As’ dialog box appears. When I save the edits to the smart object, using the prompted file name, they are not reflected in the master document.
Can anyone advise what the problem might be? Is the file path between the master document and smart object being lost?
Thanks for the help.
Justin

Yes I am apply layers to a JPEG. So it's solved by flattening the image and saving, but this mean I lose my fiter and masking layers.
Does that mean the quickest way would be to open the JPEG image before placing, save it as a PSD and then place it?

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