RAW + Jpeg Deleting Master Jpeg File

I have several 100 photos that were imported as RAW + Jpeg. I don't need or want the Jpeg master files. How do I delete them while leaving the RAW masters?
Dual 2 GHz G5, 2.5 GB RAM, Aperture 1.5.2 Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Dual 2 GHz G5, 2.5 GB RAM, Final Cut Studio Mac OS X (10.4.4)

i asked the same thing quite a while ago ... see if
this helps you out ...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5819
12&tstart=0
Thanks, but it didn't work.
Dual 2 GHz G5, 2.5 GB RAM, Final Cut Studio Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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How to Delete imported JPEGS after matching RAW files are imported as masters

Using a 5D Mark III and shoot JPEG (SD) and RAW (CF).
Aperture 3.5.1, using a managed library
Perviously, using a 7D so new to shooting JPEG and RAWs from an aperture Aperture workflow standpoint.
I know that i can import the JPEGs > delete images that do not make the cut > then import the matching RAW files in the import dialogue that correspond to the JPEGs in the Aperture Library.
I use the RAW files as my Camera Master images and once the RAW files are imported, the smaller resolution JPEGs are no longer needed or viewed in my normal edit workflow. I only need the JPEGs to quickly go through the images to find out which RAW files i need to import at a later time to increase the speed of import > edit > deliver.
My Assumptions:
1. Logic would lead me to believe that after import the user should see a stack like image representation with whatever file type is considered Master to be on top and the viewable secondary file type on the bottom. clicking on the image stack should allow you to see both file types as you would normally see with image stacks with the same files types. This is not the case... What am i missing here?
2. Logic again would lead me to believe that when i have the ability to delete one of the 2 image types as i do not need both in the end. After the import process is complete and RAWs are backed up, I want to delete the JPEG files as they are just taking up more space on my DAS drive array... There is no need to keep a duplicate of every file in both JPEG and RAW format. This is not the case as when i delete the JPEG or RAW, both files formats are deleted simultaneously. What am i missing here?
Problems: (correspond to Assumptions above)
1. I do not seem to have access to both images (JPEG & RAW) in a stack where i can expand and close the stack to see both? It seems like i only have access to the image type i have selected as Master? This seems counter intuitive to what the workflow should be as why would aperture 'lock the secondary file types away' so you can't easily view both file types as the same time for comparison?
2a. Reality seems to be that i do not have access to the JPEG and RAW image files. I can only see one at a time by selecting the images and choosing 'make JPEG master’ and then respectively... 'make RAW master', but you can't see both at the same time for file comparison.
2b. Also, I can't find a way to delete the JPEG images after the RAW files have been imported. I would presume most professional photographers shoot RAW and do not shoot JPEG as their camera master or editing master images. I do not understand why aperture has captured both as a pair in the library that does not allow me to delete the JPEG (in this case) as i have selected the RAW as my master.
If someone can please help... The function seems like either i am missing something obvious or that the implemented function of using RAW + JPEGs files for import is broken from a real world workflow standpoint.

leonie...
thank you for clearing that up for me.
I think that at this point it is silly to use the JPEG+RAW import functionality as it seems that it takes longer to do the above steps than to just import only the RAW files and press on from there.
I seems what i have done in the past of only importing the RAW files and then using the quick preview functionality to reduce image load times is the best thing in can come up with without keeping 'duplicates' in the database.
That really baffels me that there is no built in functionality to remove the JPEG from a RAW+JPEG pair and i wonder how the real world photographers who help Apple test and implement software to solve real world workflow problems thought the JPEG+RAW import was going to be used.
I do understand that i can use a smaller JPEG file size to reduce the bloat of the database, but used over hundreds of thousands of images is certainly going to make a dent in my total aperture database size and therefore storage needs down the road.
If you have any other workflow thoughts, or know of a 3rd party plugin/ etc... to fix this obvious shortcoming then i am all ears..
thank you again Leonie and have a great week

Delete RAW and set JPEG to Master

For a large number of photos, I imported both the RAW and JPEG versions from my cameras. However, I no longer really need the RAW versions for many of them; I would like to delete them and reclaim the disk space they consume.
Can anyone tell me step-by-step how to (1) delete the RAW versions of selected images, and (2) set the remaining JPEG as Master?
I'm using Aperture 3.4.1
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It will be a lot of work, if you really want to do it, and it is a risky operation, I really cannot recommend to do it ...
Back up your library, before you read on.
First of all, to make the jpegs the original master image files instead of the raw images select the images in the Browser and use the command "Photos > Use Jpeg as Original".
Then turn your images into referenced images and move the originals to a folder outside your Aperture Library by using the command "File > Relocate Originals" and selecting to move the files, not to copy them. Pick a folder where you want tthe images to stay permanently; you should not try to move them back after deleting the raws - that will result in error messages.
Then select an image in the Browser and use the command: "File > Show in Finder". In the Folder that opens, you can delete the raw files for each image.
Test, if you can still work with the image and edit it, after removing the raw. If there should be any problems, put the raw back and forget about it.
But if all is fine, remove more raws, as you see fit.
I'd keep the raws for the images that are most important to you, however.
Regards
Léonie

How to delete JPEGs after RAW + JPEG import of referenced files?

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http://blogs.oreilly.com/aperture/2007/09/getting-rid-of-unwanted-manage-1.html
http://www.bagelturf.com/files/f2152c171c89f2ce02166f0f69bdac17-993.php
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Again, another untested idea for you. You should try it with one image first and Please! make sure your library is backed up first.
Select the Photos group from the Library pane to show all photos in the browser.
Set your view to Browser only.
Clear any filters in the top right if they are set.
Click the Filter icon at the top right.
If it's not already there, add the rule for "File Type" using the popup menu.
Set the filter to show Filetype Is RAW+JPEG.
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Make sure all the images are set to RAW as Master.
Select all the photos (test just one first!) and File->Relocate Masters. Choose an external disk with enough room.
Once all the masters are moved out of the library to a new location (this could take awhile if you have many photos), Navigate to the new location of the masters and remove the JPEGs. Sort by filetype in the Finder to make it easier.
Back in Aperture, Select all the RAW+JPEG pairs in the filtered browser and choose File->Consolidate Masters. (Now that the JPEGs are gone, I don't know if Aperture will complain. That's why you should test this first on 1 image)
If this worked, you should now have only RAW masters in your library.
I repeat myself: I didn't test this. Please test on a fully backed up library on only 1 image first. Good luck.

How do I find BOTH the raw and the cameras jpeg files?

I've got Aperture 3 importing raw plus jpegs from my Nikon D600 camera. The D600 produces amazing jpegs!
Aperture is set to use the raw file as the master.
I'd hoped that I'd have access to both the raw AND the camera jpeg but I only see the raw file and as soon as I open it, the cameras jpeg is replaced by something that aperture generates. It's quite frustrating because the jpegs from my Nikon look fantastic but only for a couple of seconds before aperture replaces them with a horrible, jpeg.
I want to have access to both the camera's jpeg and the raw file. Aperture's jpegs just aren't that good compared to the Nikon original jpegs. Not even close!
Is there any way that I can get back my Nikon camera's jpegs or are they gone, forever?
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Roy Martin German wrote:
For some unknown reason, although I can see both the "Use JPEG as Original" and the "Use RAW as Original", both of these menu items are grayed out?
A couple of ways this can happen is (1) if only one format is actually on the camera's card (i.e., the camera's Quality setting is incorrect), or (2) if "Import RAW files only" or "Import JPEG files only" was selected in the RAW+JPEG Pairs panel in the import dialog. So (1) are you sure the card contains RAW and JPEG images (e.g., have you looked at it with Finder), and (2) what setting was used during import?
Roy Martin German wrote:
but I only see the raw file and as soon as I open it, the cameras jpeg is replaced by something that aperture generates.
Not sure what you mean by this statement. By design Aperture doesn't "replace" anything. Can you clarify?

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Hi,
Back in the day, I shot lots of images using raw+jpeg and imported them into Lightroom. Now I realize those jpegs add no value and I'd like to recover the disk space that they're collectively occupying.
Is there a good way to:
1. Identify all images in a catalog which have raw+jpeg?
2. Remove just the jpeg for these images?
Thanks!

$$PhotoHobby wrote:
I'm very hesistant to take the chance on any 3rd party script.
Just so ya know, what the deletion feature in RawPlusJpeg does is ultra simple:
1. Identifies extraneous jpeg files.
2. Presents them for you to review.
3. Deletes the extraneous jpeg files, if you approve. (puts them in the recycle bin if possible).
It does nothing to the database nor anything else.
You sync folders with 'Treat JPEG files next to raw files separately' afterward, which is what sets the database right.
The only potential for trouble is the criteria for determining which jpegs are extraneous.
It has no direct access to the database, so what it does is check for jpegs with same base name as raw (which *must* be present in catalog, and on disk), that aren't in the catalog, which includes the jpegs associated with RAW+JPEG (imported as a unit), *and* any jpegs that were imported separately, but subsequently removed from the catalog, or had never been imported.
So, what it does will be the perfect thing to do, *if* you first synchronize folders (with 'Treat JPEG files next to raw files separately' checked) to pull any jpegs in to the catalog that were previously imported separately, but may have been inadvertently removed from the catalog (or had never been imported), before invoking the delete feature of the plugin.
Note: You must do that for any manual procedure too, or you will have the same problem, except in the manual case, you won't have the benefit of the plugin checking your work, and presenting the files to be deleted, before you commit.
It's your call, obviously, and to save Geoff the Kiwi from pointing this out: the plugin comes with no guarantee, warranty, or any other kind of tea.
Consider backing up catalog and photo files before doing this maintenance, whether manual, or plugin-assisted.
In my opinion, the plugin-assisted method is much safer than the manual method, which is the only reason it was written, *not* to save steps, although it does that too. For example, you can not, with the plugin, delete any jpegs that do not have a corresponding RAW in the catalog and on disk, period. - unless there is a bug of course, but there probably isn't , at least not one that would change the aforementioned assertion... - it wouldn't take much of a bug to cause it to barf, but it would take a big bug to cause it to delete files that weren't on the list, etc...
Seriously, I don't think you have to wait for Adobe on this one. I wouldn't (I didn't - my catalog is all clean now!...).
PS - there is *very* little recorded in the database about the jpeg sidecar - it's existence upon import (when "as a unit") - that's about it. Most of the funny business about updating that we were fumbling with above, stems from the software (and the person at the keyboard), *not* the database. Syncing folders with 'Treat JPEG files next to raw files separately' checked, once the jpeg sidecars have been cleaned up, *will* set the database straight!
Cheers,
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I have accidentally captured a large number of images as both RAW + JPEG.
Now I want to get rid of the JPEGs, but since LR displays both files as a single entity, I'm scratching my head how to go about it. I tried removing some JPEGs outside of LR then synchronized the folder, but LR now complains about missing "Sidecar" files. I can click the ? icon to fix this one-by-one, but is there a "proper way" to do it for all images in one fell swoop?
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I noticed one difference though…
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I give....I imported raw and jpeg as pairs since aperture updated for the D7000. I see the J on the badge. I assume they are stacked. I see where i can change the master to the raw file by right clicking. However, can't i just navigate to the raw file for adjustments or do I have to switch the master? I have looked at the manual. I have a book on aperture, I searched the board. I gotta be missing something really basic! Please help this stupid newbie. Is it better to import both as masters in the future? What do people prefer? tx
Message was edited by: Sheryl Kingstone

Hi Sheryl,
No, you aren't missing anything really basic. The RAW and JPG aren't really stacked. They are associated together in a different way that is only applicable for pulling JPG and RAW versions of the same photo out of your camera together.
If you can answer the following question, it might help the other users (and mybe you) help you.
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Hope that eas clear enough. I had lots of ideas to write about.
hope this helps,
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