RAW to JPEG export in Aperture 3

I've imported RAW + JPEG image pairs from my camera, and selected the RAW image as the master. I understand that Aperture uses the JPEG for display purposes. My question is this: when I export (it would be the version rather than the master), as, for example, when I want to send the file to a photo lab for print processing, is Aperture working from the JPEG file it imported, or from the master (RAW)? I've made some adjustments to the white balance and lighting. I noticed that when I export the image after the adjustment, that the JPEG file is the same size as the original JPEG file that was imported as part of the pair (in this case, about 2.5 mb). I bumped up the image quality for the export, which results in a larger JPEG file that is exported (9.3 mb). What I really want to know is, is Aperture just expanding my 2.5 mb JPEG (making a larger file, but still from a lossy format), or is it creating a new JPEG file of larger size from the RAW master (and therefore, less loss)? I hope my question makes sense. I can't find any information on this in the program documentation.

Richard GORRE wrote:
Meaning I dont know the utility to import 2 files at the begining, except using more space.
If somebody can explain the advantage, it will be nice BR Richard
The main advantage to shoot and import RAW + JPEG is for the processed JPEG from your camera.
If your camera has the ability to capture say Black & White and you grab some images that look good in camera, then when you import both into Aperture, you will have that B & W JPEG as well as the full color information RAW. If you like the JPEG enough, then the work is done. If not, you can use the full color data in the RAW and create your own B & W image using Aperture's tools.
The same applies if you like the camera's processing for color, filters, etc. It is a matter of convenience really, not born of necessity.
Hope that helps.

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I have several related issues that I would appreciate help with.
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Ok.
My workflow is
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