.raw to .jpegs, just for viewing

I am using Aperture on my desktop Mac, but I have a MacBook Air that takes a few seconds to render each .raw file - not ideal for showing off vacation pics, etc. So, I'd like to export my entire Aperture library (66GB), hierarchy intact, to the Air, as .jpegs. On the laptop, I can use either Aperture or iPhoto. Any advice as to the least painful method would be appreciated.

Barry Burciul1 wrote:
Aperture or iPhoto. Any advice as to the least painful method would be appreciated.
Frank has pointed you to the least painful -- and smartest -- solution: take advantage of this feature, which is built in to Aperture.
. Install Aperture (the program) on both machines.
. Put your Library on your desktop Mac.
. Make all of your Masters Referenced. (This seems to be necessary in order to NOT include your Masters when you export your Library.)
. Set your Previews (on your desktop installation of Aperture) to the size and quality JPG you want to have available on your MBAir. (You may want to delete all your existing Previews and re-create them.)
. Select the Projects and Albums and Folders you wish to have available on your MBAir.
. "File→Export as Library"
. Do NOT check "Consolidate Masters".
. Do check "Include Previews".
. Move the exported Library file to your MBAir, and open it.
You now have a Library of the items you selected, with all organization and Previews intact. When the Air is not networked to your desktop machine or wherever your Referenced Masters are located, this Library will show all images as having off-line Masters. That's what you want. Take it with you as a portable portfolio of all your images. You will be able to quickly show the Previews of your images (in the size and quality you originally selected).
When you want to update your MBAir Library, export from your desktop the updates and import and merge into the Library on your MBAir.
Note that this set-up is designed to be one-way only. You should not make changes on your MBAir and expect to have those changes available to you on your desktop. (This can be done, but is at least one layer more complex.)
You may want to review [the page in the User Manual|http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/#chapter=3%26secti on=3%26hash=apple_ref:doc:uid:Aperture-UserManual-91292STP-1008739] on using Library files.
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Probably not going to happen.
I agree, Canon's color is better than Adobe's in general - I just didn't know how good the Camera Standard profile might be for your particular camera. I had hoped maybe they'd made it a very close match.
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Welcome to the Apple Discussions. There is no way in iPhoto for the user to manage the jpg compression of the web gallery photos. If the option for visitors to download the photos is selected the copy that's uploaded is compressed approximately equivalent to an Photoshop quality setting of 8 or 9 out of 12. The pixel dimensions are the same as the original unless the max dimension in the original exceeds 3054. The the file is resized to 3054 max dimension.
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LarryHN:
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2) I spoke with sales people at two Apple stores and one person with their online sale, and none of them could addrss my issue. The online sales person said she might have to put me through to their tech people to resolve this or at least get the full, correct info. None of them were janitors.
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