RDS CAL License Conversion

Hello,
We have a customer who is running remote desktop services with ~500 "User based" client access licenses. As part of capacity planning, the customer have procured an additional ~500 "Device based" client access licenses. The environment
is requrired to have all User Based CAL ONLY. Is there a provision to get the new Device based CAL converted into User based CAL? If yes, please let me know the procedure.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
NOTE: We do not have an active SA agreement with Microsoft.
Thanks,
Koushik

The only way to do this would be through your licence reseller or through Microsoft clearing house. But AFAIK they don't allow this to happen.
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Can we use Windows Server 2012 RDS CAL license in RDS 2008 R2 Server

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We have RDS Server 2012 CAL license select plus but we want to use Windows Server 2008 R2 RDS so is it possible to use 2012 RDS license in RDS 2008 Server?
if yes how can put this.
Waiting for your reply.
thanks,
Hiren Patel
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Hi,
RDS 2012 CALs can license 2008 R2 and 2008 session hosts. However, RDS 2012 CALs only can be installed on the 2012 Licensing server.
RDS and TS CAL Interoperability Matrix
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/14988.rds-and-ts-cal-interoperability-matrix.aspx
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We have below mentioned license with us and can we use this license for RDS CAL or do we need any additional license for RDS?
Line Items
Product Description:Microsoft® Windows® Server CAL 2012 Sngl OPEN 1
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Available and Issued should add up to 10, but is instead showing 0 available, 0 issued, and using “Built-in-overused” instead of the legitimate CAL.
This causes an error in the licensing diagnose:
Screenshot will not post until "verify your account" but no instructions about how to accomplish this.

Dharmesh, this is a single machine for a Proof Of Concept application, therefore the licensing server and RD session host are on the same machine. Though it is part of the domain, the Group Policy for RD Licensing is in
the default “not defined” state. This should not be an issue, as quoted from your link (emphasis added):
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to any RD Session Host server that requests one.”
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TP, this is 2012 R2. licmgr.exe displays the following:
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Windows 200 Server – Built-in TS Per Device CAL / Built-in / Unlimited / Unlimited / 0 / Never / 2
Windows Server 2012 – Installed RDS Per User Cal / Built-in OverUsed / 0 / 0 / 8 / Never / 4
Windows Server 2012 – Installed RDS Per User Cal / Retail Purchase / 10 / 0 / 0 / Never / 3
This agrees with the raw numbers (10/8) listed in the results of the CAL usage report below, the report isn’t too helpful as it doesn’t note which CAL is being used (as above), which is the problem:
CAL Usage Report
RD License Server:,"MYSERVER"
Report Date:,"Tuesday, February 4, 2014 4:50:31 PM"
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Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,10,8,Limited
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MyDomain.com\LocalAdmin,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:32:02 PM"
MyDomain.com\EnterpriseAdminUser,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:44:42 PM"
MyDomain.com\DomainAdmin,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:03:55 PM"
MyDomain.com\PowerUser,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:15:10 PM"
MyDomain.com\NormalUser1,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Monday, March 31, 2014 11:32:33 PM"
MyDomain.com\NormalUser2,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:36:22 PM"
MyDomain.com\NormalUser3,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:22:40 AM"
MyDomain.com\NormalUser4,Windows Server 2012,RDS Per User CAL,"Saturday, April 5, 2014 8:54:29 PM"
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Using Windows Server 2012 per-User RDS CAL on Server 2008 R2 Session Host

I have a Remote Desktop Licensing Server setup on my domain controller running Windows Server 2012 R2. I have installed a
’Windows Server 2012 Remote Desktop Services per-User CAL’ there and activated the licensing server already.
Currently I use ONLY Windows Server 2008 R2 machines as RDS Session Hosts (in the future I plan to transition them to 2012 R2, hence the CAL I bought is
already in the newest version).
I have already configured my WS 2008 RDS Session Hosts: set
Per-User licensing mode and specified license server address. The connectivity between my Session Host(s) and my License Server seems to be ok as the
Remote Desktop Session Host Configuration window on the Session Host correctly lists the 2012 per-user
license (CAL installed on server) from the license server.
On the License Server I can also see event logs entries (in
Microsoft-Windows-TerminalServices-Licensing/Admin), indicating that the user has been issued a license.
The issue I am having is that the license being issued is
2008 Per User CAL license (Build-in OverUsed - temporary) and not the 2012 Per User CAL license which is the only license installed on the server. According to the RDS CAL interoperability matrix at
social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/14988.rds-and-ts-cal-interoperability-matrix.aspx, I was expecting the 2012 license to be backward-compatible with 2008 client (and that
in the absence of legacy licenses, the (only) 2012 license would be used for all clients connecting to the licensing server)
Before I bought my license, I found this document:
download.microsoft.com/download/3/D/4/3D42BDC2-6725-4B29-B75A-A5B04179958B/WindowsServerRDS_VLBrief.pdf
which says that - "newer version RDS CALs can be used with an older version of the server software" (In section FAQ, Q4), which means to me that
the 2012 license would work as-is for the 2008 Server and gives me flexibility when upgrading to the new server version.
How can I make this CAL work in my environment?
Note:
I have already explicitly disabled
Prevent license upgrade Group Policy setting which I assumed would fix the issue but nothing has changed.
Then I have enabled License server security group Group Polity setting
and added computers from my domain to RDS Endpoint Servers AD group. I have also created new AD group called
Terminal Server Computers and added the computer accounts there, but it changes
nothing. Reference - technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee791761.aspx , technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725704.aspx and blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2009/09/17/control-the-issuance-of-rds-cals.aspx.
I found one potential ‘workaround’ which involved manually downgrading my CAL license by calling
Microsoft Clearinghouse. I am very reluctant do to so because, as I upgrade parts of my infrastructure to Server 2012, I’d need to then ask Microsoft to manually upgrade a part of my license back as well.
Am I missing something? What should I do to get my 2012 CAL to be issued to 2008 R2 server

Hi, I have tried several other possibilities.
I change expire date for my temporary assigned license (2008 CAL overused). It can be done, by changing Active Directory user properties – msTSExpireDate. When I restart my Session Host server and logged again, my license was renewed
for next 60 days (event ID - 4145).
I also delete information about license for this user (clear msTSExpireDate and msTSLicenseVersion). And the license was successfully removed from License Manager. After another SH restart it gets the same – 2008 overused – license
(event ID 4143 - license server has successfully issued …)
I now, that changing info in AD attributes is a little trick, and this is not a real value - only a reference, but it was useful to delete or change expiration date of license. But it didn’t change type of license as I expected.
Reference -
http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/243320-windows-2008-licensing-questions/
To TP:
I have found your post with information:
If you have a Server 2012 RD Licensing server you may install your 2012 RDS CALs on it (no downgrade necessary) and then set your Server 2008 R2 RDSH to
use the 2012 RDL server. The 2012 RD Licensing server will automatically issue the CALs as 2008. -
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/6046ded1-96bf-4d79-89ce-38aac2a6694e/can-we-use-windows-server-2012-rds-cal-license-in-rds-2008-r2-server?forum=winserverTS
And it showing my situation in brief. I also found
similar problems, but the solutions don’t meet my expectations.
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/dcfb1966-89a8-4b5d-bf5a-ff03ac0b7a66/rds-cal-licenses-not-recognized?forum=winserverTS
– “sudden all of the CALS were available”
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/f1228599-8452-4a3e-a263-061de14bfcfe/server-2012-rds-builtin-overused-cals-issue?forum=winserverTS
– “this should go away after a while”
Is there a way to determine this time you mentioned before? Or should I just wait patiently…

Windows Server 2012 RDS CALS on Windows Server 2008 R2 Licensing Server

Hi,
at the moment we are installing the first couple of Windows Server 2012 in our infrastructure.
Some of them have installed RDS.
Now we are wondering whether it is possible to use our existing Windows Server 2008 R2 licensing server for serving the licenses we have (yes we to have new Windows Server 2012 RDS CALS) or whether we have to install a new host based on Windows Server 2012.
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Hi matt_will_fix_it,
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I have not tested it, but it should work. Server 2012 R2 requires the same RDS CAL version as Server 2012. If you try it and have an issue please reply back.
-TP

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I cannot see the screenshot, would you please upload it again? Also, more details about the error is appreciated.
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In the RDS license Manager it is showing usage is showing as Zero even though users are using the service.
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Hi,
Please describe in more detail you current server configuration and what steps you have performed so far.
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RDS and TS CAL Interoperability Matrix
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SQL Server 2014
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Do RDS CALs Have a Tombstone Life?

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Hi,
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