Re: Broadband Speed Experiment - BT don't listen

Sorry to butt in on your thread but we have just started using RouterStats to monitor our line as we have been having terrible proplems not least getting someone at BT to understand. Am planning to post all my stats here soon if we get no joy with helpdesk but my question is ... on our graphs the upstream noise margin is rock steady literally a striaght line, the downstream however fluctuates all the time, sometimes just a little up & down, other times a lot and it drifts up and down through day/night cycle. On your graphs both lines fluctuate. Are both situations normal or does this indicate any thing relevant?
Tring to get our heads round all the great info on this forum and the links folk post - thanks

I moved your post to avoid the other thread getting sidetracked by routerstats
The ideal would be the noise margin shown on the graphs to be a straight line but for nrmal lines that is not going to happen. there are small fluctuations and that is normal for most and the noise margin degrading as night approaches and more people use the lines is also normal. probably drops slowly till maybe 11/11.30pm (in my case) then starts to rise again until it reaches a peak about lunchtime hence why many say if you are doing a reset pick about lunchtime when noise margi at highest as that should give best conenction speed
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Broadband Speed Experiment

Hi I'm going to start posting daily stats in an attempt to prove to BT that the quality of the Broadband they are supplying me is substandard. For info, I am currently connected to the test socket with a brand new filter and ethernet connection to my Mac. ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
11 days, 22:14:36
Downstream:
1.117 Mbps
Upstream:
967.9 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.3 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
14.7 dB / 5.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
54.0 dB / 30.9 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
15.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
294994 / 7264
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
89667 / 4507
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
53793 / 5512
Broadband Speed Test: Results
1.14Mb
Download
0.96Mb
Upload
0.77Mb
The connection speed between your telephone exchange and your Home Hub could be improved. Try using the tips below and then re-test your speed.
The speed coming into your house
The speed you get at your computer
Connection speed 1.14Mb
Could be improved
Download speed
0.96Mb
Upload speed
0.77Mb
Poor
Solved!
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Router reset. Stats below:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:10:13
Downstream:
1.117 Mbps
Upstream:
999.9 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.3 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
18.6 dB / 6.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
53.9 dB / 30.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
15.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
97 / 53
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
47 / 15
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
24 / 11

Re: Broadband speed issues

So - You think that you have a problem.
Compared to the atrocious broadband service which I receive from BT, Your connection is Fast.
Since having my phone line installed 15 months ago, I have spent Hundreds of hours on the phone ( when it works ) listening to machines telling me to wait, because '' Your call is very important to us ''
Twenty-five to Forty-five minutes is the usual waiting time.
When I Do Eventually get through to the Indian Helpline operator, I find that their English is usually rudimentary and, although they do try very hard to help me, they are unable to do so.
After around anywhere between half an hour and Two hours of trying unsuccessfully to help me, they arrange an Engineers Visit to my home.
I have had visits from FOURTEEN ENGINEERS at my home in FIFTEEN MONTHS.
MY BROADBAND SPEED PROBLEM IS CONTINUING. SOMETIMES I HAVE NO CONNECTION AT ALL.
My Download Speed normally varies between 0.01mbps and 1.1mbps. I have, on occasions had 1.4mbps to 2.5mbps, but these occasions are rare, and they only last a day, or two days at best.
All of the ( Very Nice ) BT Engineers have tried their very best to help me.
Some of them were successful, but the improvements which they make don't last.
Luckily, I am retired, so I have the the time available to see the engineers.
I need the broadband for the online shopping, because my nearest local supermarket is 12 miles away.
I used to get angry about the situation, but it just adds even more stress & it doesn't help.
I have become accustomed to paying £21 a month for an awful service.
ANYONE WHO CAN SUGGEST A PERMANENT CURE WILL BE INVITED HOME FOR A FREE LUNCH.....

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Broadband speed keeps plummeting

I'm so sick of the service being provided by bt. I only have the phone line for broadband but month after month the speed drops to unusable levels. I have to keep ringing up the fault line and speak to advisors who don't listen and every time have to wait days for their tests to be completed which results in further delays when they send an engineer who always confirm it's not a problem with my internal wiring. Then some escalation team contact me and resolve the problem in minutes? But every time I ring through and ask to be put through to the team who resolve the problem remotely I am refused and have to wait and wait. They sorted it two weeks ago and it's happened again after happening three times in three months before Christmas. It seems to be BT slowing the speed because of issues on the line and never returning speed to its former glory until prompted by me. I've lost count of days I haven't been able to use the service and lost count of phone calls I have made. Cancelling the line if it happens again or maybe I should get rid off my microwave like one advisor had told me. I just wish someone at BT could find a permanent fix and confirm what the problems have been. Life is stressful enough without having to deal with poor quality service and extremely unsatisfying customer service...

welcome to the BT community forum where customers help customers and only BT employees are the forum mods
in order for the forum members to help please can you post the adsl stats from your router you may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or if HH4/5 then go to troubleshooting then logs and you are looking for 2 line together when hub last connected to internet and they will show your connection speed and noise margin or if netgear enter 192.168.0.1). Then run btspeedtester (MAC users may have problems). when first test completes then run diagnostic test and post the results ( do not reset the router).
are you connected directly via a filter to the NTE5 master or test socket or to somewhere else? Is the master the only phone socket in your home?
Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
Someone may then be able to offer help/assistance/suggestions to your problem
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From the old forum.... Slow broadband speeds in th...

FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM
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Hi,
I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
Thanks
John
alison griffiths
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Registered: 11/3/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
John Jorgensen
Posts: 2
Registered: 9/2/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM   in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths
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Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
anthony dickerson
Posts: 72
Registered: 4/26/07
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
Paddy B Mod
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Registered: 10/13/08
   Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM   in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson
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Hi John,
I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
Thanks
Paddy
BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
Mateusz Sokolin...
Posts: 2
Registered: 10/11/08
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Well John i'll tell you what it is...
First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
OK here it goes....
If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
4. Does not states when it will be applied
If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
Alex Owen
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM   in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...
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@Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
amanda jones
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM   in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen
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You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
Computer Geek
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
CG
amanda jones
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Posted: Jan 26, 2010 9:13 PM   in response to: Computer Geek in response to: Computer Geek
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we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
Clare Thurston
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 27, 2010 11:57 AM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
but
For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
Fair usage? what about Fair Supply.

New contract, new hub, same broadband speed.

Went online to look at my broadband options - it suggested I could get 12-17MB/s on a new contract.
So I rang and got a new contract. The new hub arrived, works great.
Now, when I go online to bt.com and run the speed estimator, it suggests I could get only 12MB/s. OK this is right at the bottom end of the initial range, but fair enough.
However, the actual BT broadband speed test says I'm only getting 7.9MB/s - exactly the same as I got before the new contract.
So, my question is, should I actually expect a greater speed? Is BT providing a newer, upgraded form of VDSL? I mean, is there some technical reason why I could expect a greater speed?
(edit) OK I've done a bit of self-help... see some results below. Doesn't help me but maybe somebody can make use of this information. And yes of course I tried the speed test again and it didn't make any difference.

you are on broadband with fibre vdsl which is the same as infinity but because your speed estimate was <15mb BT do not sell infinity where speed is <15Mb but you get broadband with fibre instead. this is still fibre to the cabinet and copper from cabinet to your home - just the same as infinity.
this is the second post recently where the estimate was the checker 'A' speeds but the reality is your line is not good enough for 'A' so you have somewhere between 'A' and the 'B' speed
the diagnostic test normally does work but sometimes you need to try a few times
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Very slow broadband speeds

Hello
My first post, and I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me with this.
For a few days now, I've been experiencing very slow broadband speeds (100kbps or less), in contrast to the 1.5 - 2Mbps that I would usually expect to get. I've been on hold to BT technical support for some time, and have got through twice, on both occasions being told that this is a widespread issue and to wait until the next day. However, I'm not seeing any improvement. I'm aware of the problems in Edinburgh and the North of England,but I'm in East Anglia.
speedtester.bt.com shows:
Your configured download throughput speed for this service is 135 k
and then:
Two consecutive attempts have failed to initialise an Assured Rate session for your service.Please raise a fault with your service provider stating that the Performance Tester tool indicated a problem with initialising your Assured Rate session. <script type="text/javascript">// paintProgressAndMessageTestBar(-1,""); paintProgressAndMessageOnBar(-1,'An Error has Occured! '); // </script>
My hub stats are:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 1 day, 13:59:54
Downstream 1,504 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 15.0 dB / 19.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 60.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 16.6 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 4586 / 92
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 297 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 72
Error Seconds (Local) 221
I hope this is enough information, but I'll happily supply anything else if I can. The uptime of 1.5 days is the time since I was advised to restart / reset to defaults etc.
Thanks for any help.
Deej.

Once a line is stable and working well, it's best left running 24/7
Interventions like resets, replacing accelerators, unplugging the router etc. will cause line "flapping"
And the dslam sees this as instability, and in turn the BRAS lowers the IP profile ....
This is done to achieve stability, and decrease throughput purposefully, all done automatically.
What you have to do, is cure any line noise, plug directly into the master or test socket behind the NTE
faceplate, leave it connected and wait for the throughput to increase.
Very often a rock bottom IP may need a kick to get it out of the doldrums.
Eventually the noise margin will decrease, sync will increase, and IP profile go up.
Depending on how long the line has suffered impulse noise, will determine the time for SNR to come down.
Regardless of which type of phone you used to test quietline ... hum or crackle is a no-no.
It may be the cause of the problems. It could be REIN on the network portion of the connection or dslam
crosstalk, either way it needs to be reported as line noise before you can count it out of the equation.

Low Broadband speed = line fault?

Hi,
We have had a very slow download speed since the high winds started last week (live in a rural area about 1 mile from exchange).
I have run through the BT Broadband speed wizard & not improved the speed.
ADSL Speedtest results are:
Download speed achieved - 194Kbps
                           Acceptable = 50-250Kbps
                           DSL 3424Kbps (downstream)
          448Kbps (upstream)
                           IP Profile = 250Kbps
Now, I don't know what it was before - but this appears to me to be pretty slow!
If I understand the notes correctly? for 3424Kbps we should be getting 600 to 7150Kbps throughput speed?
All I know, is that pages are taking an age to load...
Any thoughts on what to do next please?
PS After restarting the Hub 2.0, we got the following results:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 1:20:46
Downstream
5,120 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
12.3 dB / 23.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
48.0 dB / 29.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
19.7 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
2701 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
64 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
16
Appears faster on paper - but still as slow loading pages!
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Hi again,
As promised, we have left on 24/7 & not re-set etc. Although it seems to have re-set itself a few times.
I am amazed at the low 480 Kbps speed! It is usually around 5400 Kbps...
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test
Download Speed
243 Kbps
0 Kbps
500 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 243 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 50-500 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :480 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
ADSL line statusConnection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
1 day, 15:47:51
Downstream
480 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
29.3 dB / 19.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
47.0 dB / 29.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
15.3 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
14
Loss of Signal (Local)
28
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
26086 / 1
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
1766 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 1
Error Seconds (Local)
7085

Will a new router increase my broadband speed in this configuration

How much (if at all) can I increase my broadband speed by getting a faster router. Here's my config:
DSL line --> DSL modem --> Lynksys BEFSR41 Router --> Ethernet cat-5 wiring in house --> TimeCapsule WiFi
The computers using this network are an Intel iMac (10.6), a PowerPC iMac (10.4), and two Intel MacBooks (10.6).
The modem/router are located in an in-wall distribution box in a utility room. I want to keep the hardwired ethernet available in case the WiFi quits temporarily. The TimeCapsule is in a good location (top shelf bookcase on first floor) for coverage of my 2-story house. In principle could eliminate the Lynksys modem, and use the TC as the primary router, but it would be difficult to physical locate the TC where it could both distribute to the house ethernet and have good radio reception.
Testing via the hardwire ethernet (using Speakeasy and speedtest.net) shows download and upload speed 1.27Mbps and 0.32Mb/s. My ISP is pacbell.net. I get the same result via my W-Fi. Speedtest.net tells me my result is about 40% of the average for pacbell.net to my zip code 94301.
I've heard there are much faster routers than the BEFSR41, but I don't know if my internet speed is limited by my current router or by pacbell's DSL service.
Any insights would be appreciated.

Will a new router increase my broadband speed
No...your speed is only going to be as fast as your weekest link, which in your case is the DSL modem and the connection speed package you subsribe to.

Ipad 2 broadband speed

When I pick up my ipad 2 the broadband speed drops by half is it broken?
I have good knowledge of routers and wifi in general and I don't have any problems with any of my other devices such as xbox laptop and even my first edition ipad works just fine.
When I am right next to the router if I put my ipad 2 down and run speed test I get 5 meg but when I pick it up and hold it and run the same test I only get 2 meg?
The other issue I am having with the ipad2 is the further away from my router the slower the speed gets and downstairs I only get 1 meg if I put it down or 0.4 meg if I am holding it where as my normal ipad(1) will get 4.7 meg in the same place.
I have tried various things such as changing my router setting to N frequency and changing to channel 13 but this didn't help. I have a really good D-link router and I know how to use it so I don't think its that at all.
So is my one broken and does it need to go back to the shop or are they all like this?

First off thanks for all the responses..... NOT
After reading all the other stuff on people with wifi problems I found out that lots of people were having success by turning off the 'N' capabilities of the router so I have now changed to B and G signal and the ipad 2 is working perfectly.
But thing is now I can no longer run my router on 'N' which is necessary for my xbox and other devices so although this fixes the problem it is only a temporary solution.
So how do I get my IPAD2 to work on the N signal?

Broadband Speeds

Until recently i have been achieving broadband speeds of between 6.0MB and 7.1MB over the last 12 months
See copy of speed test done on 17th May 2011
We have had work done recently at our exchange Knock Belfast and the broadband checker results have shown I should now be able to get 15MB to 17MB broadband speed
I have been on the phone a couple of times regarding this and have noticed far from increasing speed my broadband speed has substantially reduced. Speed reading today 04/06/2011 3.4MB
Unhappy customer
I would also draw your attention to Ofcom's
2010 Voluntary Code of Practice: Broadband Speeds
FAQ
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
6107 Kbps
0 Kbps
7150 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speed achieved during the test was - 6107 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8128 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 7150 Kbps
If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP.
If you are experiencing problems with specific applications, servers or websites please contact your ISP for assistance.
Your test has completed please close this window to exit the performance tester.
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Broadband option
Broadband speed range
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Between 10.0Mb and 19.5Mb
(Estimated speed: 17.0Mb)
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BT always offers you the best speed possible on your line.The speed prediction we have given here is an estimate, however download speeds can vary and the actual download speed will fall within a range. The range is an indication of the speed that other similar lines across the UK have achieved for their broadband service; this is generally within 1-2 Mb higher or lower than your single estimated speed quoted.
The actual speed is dependent on several factors such as the product option you choose, the processing power of your computer,how many people are using your broadband connection at the same time,whether you use a wireless or cable connection,the speed of the websites that you visit and how we're managing the network. Speeds can be lower at peak times - peak times are evenings and weekends.

according to the btspeedtester results you have posted you are on adslmax up to 8mb and you have the max connection of 8128 with the correct profile of 7150 and throughput looks fine.
your exchange may have been upgraded check here http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search but it could be weeks or months before BT are in a position to rollout the changes to all the customers on that exchange. normally you would get an email from Bt advising the exchange upgrade but even then it could be a few weeks as the rollout is phased
if you get upgraded your modulation will change from current 992.1 to either 992.3 or 992.5
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Broadband Speed Issues

I've been having an issue for the last few weeks with my broadband speed, as it has suddenly become very slow. I contacted the BT broadband support and they did some tests on the line and they came back fine. I then moved the connection from the master socket to the test socket re-did the speed test and the results were exactly the same as the master socket. So support seemed to think it maybe something to do with the ADSL filters and are going to send me some new ones. The connection is now back in the master socket.
I've done a phone test using a handset and there did not seem to be any interference on the line. So I googled around and started wondering if I'd been banded. I've recently moved (about 6 weeks ago) from BT broadband option 2 to BT Broadband option 3 which could have coincided with when the problem started, but I'm not 100% sure that this is the case. I was thinking maybe I've been banded since moving to option 3. I've not maintained a steady connection since my move to option 3 as my router is switched off every night. So I've now maintained a steady connection (connected to the master socket) for a over a day however the stats show no sign of improvement. I'm going to maintain this connection for 3 days as suggested in other threads to see if the stats improve. I just thought I would post to see if anybody had any other ideas, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Download speedachieved during the test was - 0.25 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.1 Mbps-0.25 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 0.25 Mbps
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.62Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
1 day, 17:05:57
Downstream
283 Kbps
Upstream
864 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
14.7 dB / 13.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
46.5 dB / 27.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
53894 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
N/A / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
0

I've now maintained a connection for over 5 days but still seem to be on a banded profile there does seem to have been some errors and some signal loss but it does not seem to have been enough to have reset the clock. Is there anything else I can do to improve the speed or is it just a case of maintaning a connection until the speed decides to improve?
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
6 days, 0:56:25
Downstream
283 Kbps
Upstream
864 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
14.9 dB / 13.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
46.5 dB / 27.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
1
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
138001 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
14 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
N/A / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
2

Difference between BT Broadband Speed Test and all...

I have recently moved to BT Broadband from TalkTalk as I was dissatisfied with the speeds that I was getting with my TalkTalk line – they were OK outside of peak time but woeful in peak time. With TalkTalk, I was on their ‘up to’ 8Mbps which, in practice, translated to about 6Mbps for download outside peak times but dropped to below 1 Mbps in peak (around 500Kbps and sometimes even lower!) – these measurements were taken regularly with both the TalkTalk and Think Broadband speed tests which were usually roughly in agreement and I haven’t had to rely on memory as I downloaded the spreadsheet records available to Think Broadband registered users.
I am now posting this in the hope that somebody can explain the difference between the BT Broadband Speed Checker (Here) and all the others available on the web.
When you are first connected to BT Broadband they warn you that your speeds will vary over the first ten days while they test your line to ascertain optimum speeds for it. During that time, I checked it every day early, mid-day and evening (usually around 0630, 1230 & 2000 hrs) with Think Broadband and, yes, it did vary – the first day it started at around 1Mbps for download but rose to 10Mbps by the end of the day. On the second day, it rose to a peak of 17.8Mbps which was unbelievably fast to use (well, to me anyway) but never reached that speed again as over the rest of the ‘test period’, the download speed dropped and dropped to the point where I am now outside of the BT test period and consistently seeing only 2 to 2.5Mbps over a 24 hour period.
I emphasise that those speeds were all recorded using Think Broadband but I am now doing tests using the BT checker mentioned above and the speeds which BT indicate for downloads are consistently in the 14 to 18 Mbps range. If I do the BT and TB test in quick succession, they generally show the BT calculated speed to be better than that of TB by a factor of around 7 (ie. TB at 2 Mbps whilst BT show 14Mbps). Now either they are measuring different things (or the sams things differently) or one of them is lying – all I know is that my general browsing experience is slower outside of peak times and I can tell by the time it takes to load pages.
I might have misunderstood something in these tests but I am now beginning to regret that I fell I for the BT sales pitch which promised me ‘up to’ 20 Mbps but ‘more likely’ 17 Mbps. I have tried to discuss thisl with BT Broadband technical support but they were no use whatsoever – indeed, I got the impression that he was reading from a script and as it didn’t cover my issue, I was wasting my time – it would also have helped for English to be his first language!
According to the BT test, I am well within their ‘minimum guaranteed access speed’ (Here). for my area (about 4Mbps) and therefore cannot do anything about it. BUT that is only when measured using the BT speed tester – with any other, I am well below. I am beginning to feel very conned and might even start looking to withdraw from BT if I cannot get this settled.
Can anybody help. I will happily post detailed records of my various tests or router stats if they will help.
Thanks in advance.

OK, I have now done all the tests etc. And here are the results:
ADSL Line Status from HomeHub 3
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:27:11
Downstream:
23.71 Mbps
Upstream:
1.176 Mbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up):
3.4 dB / 6.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
5.3 dB / 2.1 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
19.4 dBm / 11.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
41 / 24
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
20 / 7
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
61 / 13
BT Speed Test Result
Download Speed: 6.59Mbps
Acceptable Range: 4Mbps - 21 Mbps
IP Profile: 21.42Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.99Mbps
Upstream IP Profile: 0.83 Mbps
Think Broadand Speed Test
Download Speed: 1.8 Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.9 Mbps
Uswitch Speed Test
Dowload Speed: 1.7 Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.9 Mbps
For what it's worth, I followed the guidelines for the BT test and took all of the tests within a 10 minute period.
All I know is that my daytime BT connection is nowhere near as fast as I had from TalkTalk. Indeed, it was not even quick enough to watch non-HD YouTube videos earlier this morning without freezing to buffer.

Recent drop in broadband speed

Hi,
I've been with BT approx 2 months now (since I moved into my new house) and have usually got a speed of ~2Mbps.
However over the past few days I've noticed an obvious drop in speed.
I've run the BT Speed Test and here are my results:
Download speed achieved during the test was - 674 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 200-1000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :3136 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 750 Kbps
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 08:31:23
Downstream:
3.063 Mbps
Upstream:
448 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
7.6 dB / 24.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
49.3 dB / 25.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
19.5 dBm / 12.3 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
62486 / 30
CRC Events (Down/Up):
145 / 26
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
2501 / 4
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
245 / 94
Is anyone able to offer any advice on what the problem may be?
I'm on BT Unlimited Broadband (up to 20Mb) and the speed is so bad that I can barely use BBC Iplayer without buffering for ages.
Thanks

Hi Welcome to the forums
youe speed has dropped because of disconnections of your hub causing a drop in your ip profile if you do the following then we can help you further
If you post the full stats from your router
For homehub – type 192.168.1.254 into your browser
Navigate to ADSL Settings or use the A-Z at the top right of the home page and scroll down to ADSL Settings and click on it
Click on More Details and then post the full results.
also post the full results from http://speedtester.bt.com/
Have you tried connecting to the test socket at the rear of the master socket
Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
also you could try the hints given by poster RogerB in this link they may help http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Poor-Broadband-speed/m-p/14217#M8397
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Massive Reduction in Broadband Speed

Hi,
I am having woes with my BT Broadband Connection and am having absolutely zero joy in plotting a path through the indian call centre scripted process.
It all began about 7 days ago when both my telephone stopped working and my broadband speed collapsed to about 100kbps DL
I actually didnt notice the landline issue (I barely use it) so I reported the fault as a broadband speed issue.
To be fair to BT they diagnosed the broader issue and raised a fault on the PSTN line which an engineer came out to look at and got my telephone working again by recapping the cable on the last hop on the street just outside my house.
This however has left me with broadband that is still incredibly unusably slow. Looking at the information I have available to me it seems to be due in my eyes due to an ongoing low SNR on a degraded line that has been made good enough for a phone call but not to provide a decent broadband connection speed.
I have captured some stats from the HH2 for those interested
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 30.6 dB / 5.8 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 39.5 dB / 20.9 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 20.5 dBm / 12.4 dBm
Download speedachieved during the test was - 211 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 100-500 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :572 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 852 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 1.35:11.5:87.48 (SBE:NBEBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes
xDSL linestate up (ITU-T G.992.5; downstream: 575 kbit/s, upstream: 854 kbit/s; output Power Down: 20.6 dBm, Up: 12.4 dBm; line Attenuation Down: 39.5 dB, Up: 20.9 dB; snr Margin Down: 5.0 dB, Up: 29.5 dB)
The call centre seem to be telling me they think the problem is one dealt with by BT wholesale and that they as my ISP cannot help me. As far as I can tell from the BT wholesale website however they dont deal with the general public. What do I need to say to these people to get a BT wholesale engineer to come and fix the line ?
They have already done something called an extended diagnosis ? However the call centre guy said he couldnt see the results of it on his system.
It is all getting rather frustrating as each time I ring I have to spend a good 30 mins running through the standard call centre checks including replacing microfilters, unscrewing faceplate on wall connection to connect to "test socket" etc. which seems pretty pointless at this stage.

welcome to the forum
have you always been on 21CN up to 20mb or did you receive an email recently from BT advising about exchange upgrade?
From the brief stats you have posted I think all the problems with your line has caused numerous disconnections/resets which the exchange has seen as a bad noise problem and you are currently in a banded profile until your line stabilises.
Normally this last 3/5 days and if there are no further resets/disconnections and you stay connected 24/7 then your speed your speed should return to normal.
please can you post the adsl stats from your router may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or use a-z, if netgear enter 192.168.0.1)
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