RE: CASE Tools

Question

We use Paradigm Plus & it seems to do a pretty good job. There are a few
problems with their round trip engineering piece(Forte to Paradigm &
Paradigm to Forte), but for the most part it works well. We are
scheduled to get the latest release(4.0 I think) in a week or so &
hopefully that will be fixed. It does have some quirks, but we've found
work arounds for most everything. I don't think you will find a CASE
tool or any software for that matter, that does everything you want &
doesn't have any quirks.
From: Duncan Kinnear[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CASE Tools
We are about to embark on a major conversion and remodelling of our
existing one and a half million line Cobol system, into a Forte
system.
We would like to use a CASE tool to help us design things, but we need
one
that is reasonably closely linked with Forte so that changes in TOOL
can
be easily integrated back into the design.
Are we dreaming here, or has anyone found a decent CASE tool that
achieves
this? Do people use CASE tools at all? Are they used purely as a way
of
creating the class attributes and method stubs? Or do people use them
post-development to document what they've done?
We have looked at SELECT, which seems pretty good, but it's still a
bit of
fiddling to control the flow of information between it and Forte.
I'd be interested in any comments.
Cheers,
Duncan Kinnear,
McCarthy and Associates, Email:
[email protected]
PO Box 794, McLean Towers, Phone: [phone]
Shakespeare Road, Napier, New Zealand. Fax: +64 6
834 3369
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Answer 1

Paul Monax wrote:
The previous company I was with we started out using SELECT because at
the time,
1.5 years ago, it was the only CASE tool that generated Forte code.
Actually, is not accurate. Even during my Forte beta days (1993) we were using a
forte generator from the Pardigm Plus folks (we, felt like we were helping debug the
product back then).
When Ration
Rose came out with a version that included Forte code generation, about
6 months
later, we looked at it and eventually switched to Rose, mostly due to
performance
issues with SELECT.
Both products required some tinkering to get Forte code generated, but
Rose has more options. Reverse engineering existing code into the CASE
tools is also about the same for both products. Neither one has a
complete round trip feature that we could ever get to work without
blowing away code that had been written.
Paul
Duncan Kinnear wrote:
We are about to embark on a major conversion and remodelling of our
existing one and a half million line Cobol system, into a Forte system.
We would like to use a CASE tool to help us design things, but we need one
that is reasonably closely linked with Forte so that changes in TOOL can
be easily integrated back into the design.
Are we dreaming here, or has anyone found a decent CASE tool that achieves
this? Do people use CASE tools at all? Are they used purely as a way of
creating the class attributes and method stubs? Or do people use them
post-development to document what they've done?
We have looked at SELECT, which seems pretty good, but it's still a bit of
fiddling to control the flow of information between it and Forte.
I'd be interested in any comments.
Cheers,
Duncan Kinnear,
McCarthy and Associates, Email: [email protected]
PO Box 794, McLean Towers, Phone: [phone]
Shakespeare Road, Napier, New Zealand. Fax: [phone]
Providing Integrated Software to the Meat Processing Industry for over 10 years